hi varun

as i mentioned earlier, look for the different skill lists, see where you fit, see what the minimum requirement for S and DIAC is because surprisingly, ACS requirement is different than that of DIAC. If you fit in both start gathering all documents for skill assessment, in the meanwhile start preparing for IELTS, see how much do you really require (take a point test from immi site and see how you qualify. if you are short of points you have to apply for state sponsorship as well.

the only state that does not want you to apply post assessment is victoria, i am not saying they grant you the sponsorship without assessment but they do tell you if you qualify for their sponsorship or not, if yes they ask you to submit assessment it means you almost have the sponsorship from them.

once you have skill assessment, you then apply for the visa with the same documents that you sent for assessment, well, not same but a few additions like spouse documents, marriage cert, birth certificate of child if applicable, ielts transcript etc.

i wont say it is easy but it is not even difficult, read about assessment for now, take one step at a time and you will do fine but make sure you do the point test first so you know where you stand and what step you have to follow so that you can prepare for the state sponsorship while waiting for assessment.

as for state sponsorship, that route is the fastest right now, takes sometime for approval from the state but once you have it and you apply for the visa they take not mroe than a month for a case officer and another month or so for the visa. For teh state sponsorship you need comittment statement, funds proof, CV and a few other documents related to work/education (basically all that you send to ACS).

make sure your passport is in order, India passport formalities take forever, if you need change of address or anything else, get it done while you wait for assessment, if not, nothing like it .

if you are stuck somewhere give us a shout, some or the other person will answer to your query

wish you luck
Cheers
Anj

 

Thank you Anj once again, i hope more expats will share more experiences here and help us........

 

Thanks a lot Varun for starting this Post and thank you Anj for replying.
This post will really help many newbies.

Could you please let me know the difference the Subclass 175 and Subclass 176?

 

176..is if any of the australian state sponsors you...
Advantages;

Faster processing of your application

disadvanates:

you should be in that state for 2 years
2. not easy to get state sponsorship

174..individual application

Advantages:
After your p.r gets approved you can live anywhere in australia

Disadvanatages: \

Late processing ...might last to 2 years


i think first step for you is to know whether you are elgible or not..you should have qualifying points i.e 65 points to apply for any category of visa

check the attachment for new points system..

and for anything..you can visit


www.immi.gov.au...information is really good..take a day to look into it

 

Thanks a lot Varun for starting this Post and thank you Anj for replying.
This post will really help many newbies.

Could you please let me know the difference the Subclass 175 and Subclass 176?

175 and 176 family sponsored are in the same cat 4 and are independent visa's, were as 176 state sponsorship is in cat 3 and you apply to a state to sponsor you/your occupation and you ate tied into that state for 2 years before you can live/work independently.

Hope this helps.

23/3/2011+skills ass from EA 233411 -IELTS L7.5 R9 W9 S9(8.5 total)- 175 lodged 04/2011

 

Can i just check does this mean you are tied to a state for 2 years but after that you can stay in Aus and work in any state, therefore a perm resident?

 

??

I read a 2010 post on this forum, which says you need to have minimum 4 years full time experience to file for ACS assessment.....

This is new for me, trying to find same on their site.....quick reply will help....Thanks

 

I read a 2010 post on this forum, which says you need to have minimum 4 years full time experience to file for ACS assessment.....

This is new for me, trying to find same on their site.....quick reply will help....Thanks

i don't believe there is any such rule.. you can still go ahead and get certified from ACS. meanwhile, also check your eligibility for the 65-pt cut-off!

 

I got my skills assessment with PIM 3 Group A what does this mean. It does not say anything about my bachelors degree

 

Well, I used to be that way. It probably stays the same. There's no problem.

Thanks Artemisa....

Expats - please help me with this ACS question:

- I am B.Tech (Computer Science) so I did my graduation degree with ICT major - qualifying in Group A (Skills)

- I am MBA in finance post that (NOW, I will submit this along with my graduation certficates as well, but ACS FAQs say they only assess ICT related qualification)
What should i do? I will have to submit my PG certificates, right???

- I have worked as business Analyst for past 3.5 years in IT and consulting industries, so i was going to apply for ICT business analyst.

What is the best way to proceed, should I go on....and submit all i have.....or what?

Help Help help!!!!!

I would submit the PG certificates too, but I think it WON'T help at all ;P I think it's good to make the application 'complete'.

I don't know if Computer science is 'highly relevant' to ICT business analyst. If it is, you need 2 years of experience. If it isn't, you neer four years of experience.

I think for a person with non ICT qualification, the rule is that you need 6 years of full time ICT exp...is that true?

They always change the rules, but check it here:
http://www.acs.org.au/public/SKA/docs/PASAGuidelinesforApplicants_July2011v2.0.pdf

"Applicants require a minimum of six (6) years of full time professional ICT skilled employment in a field closely related to the nominated occupation"

 

Important - help required.....

Thanks Artemisa....

Expats - please help me with this ACS question:

- I am B.Tech (Computer Science) so I did my graduation degree with ICT major - qualifying in Group A (Skills)

- I am MBA in finance post that (NOW, I will submit this along with my graduation certficates as well, but ACS FAQs say they only assess ICT related qualification)
What should i do? I will have to submit my PG certificates, right???

- I have worked as business Analyst for past 3.5 years in IT and consulting industries, so i was going to apply for ICT business analyst.

What is the best way to proceed, should I go on....and submit all i have.....or what?

Help Help help!!!!!

 

In a fix - Rescue me!!!

Expats!!!!! Please share your views.....:focus:

Thanks Artemisa....

Expats - please help me with this ACS question:

- I am B.Tech (Computer Science) so I did my graduation degree with ICT major - qualifying in Group A (Skills)

- I am MBA in finance post that (NOW, I will submit this along with my graduation certficates as well, but ACS FAQs say they only assess ICT related qualification)
What should i do? I will have to submit my PG certificates, right???

- I have worked as business Analyst for past 3.5 years in IT and consulting industries, so i was going to apply for ICT business analyst.

What is the best way to proceed, should I go on....and submit all i have.....or what?

Help Help help!!!!!

 

I think for a person with non ICT qualification, the rule is that you need 6 years of full time ICT exp...is that true?

 

not sure about this varun

 

Thanks Anj for taking a crack at this.

Ok tell me, if I do not get assessed on my post graduate qualification, as it is of little relevance to ICT Business Analyst (as per DIAC, though i feel it is of relevance for relatively better business acumen).....

Going forward, will i ever face problem of proving my qualification et al?

Assessment, is only a step to pass, hope they dont stick to that information. That is, hope they will not create any issue later when i want my PG to be added to information.

Are you getting my point?

 

you can get your qualification reassessed any time, my friend got it done first, got rejected and then got it done again for another skill.

check what is the minimum requirement for ACS with your qualification, accordingly aply, see what skill is in demand and make your cv and other documents accordingly, it should not be completely different from what you do

 

Thanks & another thing.....

Anj, Artemisa - Thank you

I had mailed ACS guys, though they heavy volume of queries, somehow i got reply back even on my first revert within a day.

As per them, we can submit it, though they will not help much as its not ICT related pg.....but we can submit them anyways.....

Thinking of adding a cover letter may be, just to let them know, that I am submitting for the sake of completeness.....LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS OK?

Another thing experts,

If I am also submiiting a professional certificate copy, I need to just get it 'certified to be true' as in case of other docs, or do you need to submit any more docs along with it? Or should I not submit it at all, though it is related to my occupation.

 

Anj, Artemisa - Thank you

I had mailed ACS guys, though they heavy volume of queries, somehow i got reply back even on my first revert within a day.

As per them, we can submit it, though they will not help much as its not ICT related pg.....but we can submit them anyways.....

Thinking of adding a cover letter may be, just to let them know, that I am submitting for the sake of completeness.....LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS OK?

Another thing experts,

If I am also submiiting a professional certificate copy, I need to just get it 'certified to be true' as in case of other docs, or do you need to submit any more docs along with it? Or should I not submit it at all, though it is related to my occupation.

Hi Varun..

I have the same confusion, if to mention the MBA (Non ICT) information or not. As you said that ACS is okay to receive the Post Grad (Non ICT MBA) docs, and you are going to send them just for the sake of completeness. I still have not much confidence in doing so. This may be because I think somewhere it says that your "Last" education would be evaluated and should be ICT related and if they go by this, they would evaluate on the basis of MBA and not on Engineering, which I think would not be something that we want.. right?

lemme know what you think..

Thanks!
Happ!

 

you can send either color copies or certified, related or not, no harm sending it

 

Gr8!!!

Thanks Anj.....This is great....will keep on troubling you with my questions as I go on.....

And hopefullly all this information will help a lot of other :confused2: ppl......

 

not a problem varun

 

Along with my last post, I have another inquiry to make:

If one is able to qualify for the required points as per the new points test, should he go for a state sponsorship or is it better to go as independent ??

Thanks!
Happ!

 

Another confusion :-/

Along with my last post, I have another inquiry to make:

If one is able to qualify for the required points as per the new points test, should he go for a state sponsorship or is it better to go as independent ??

Thanks!
Happ!

 

Along with my last post, I have another inquiry to make:

If one is able to qualify for the required points as per the new points test, should he go for a state sponsorship or is it better to go as independent ??

Thanks!
Happ!

There is a lot of discussions here about it.
But 175 takes more time to be processed (12~24 months), but you are allowed to move to any state.
176 is much quicker to be processed, but you will need to get sponsorship before applying in DIAC (remember, the rules can change...), you have the state sponsorship requirements, you will have to live in that state for 2 years. Of course, they can deny the sponsorship and they don't give you the reason.

So, it's not an easy trade off.

 

it is not the last education, consider this scenario, someone did his master in computer science and management, he then thought of going ahead with another course, say MBA after which he wanted to do PHD in something else, (non IT for example), you mean they wont consider the masters and consider PHD instead? no. it is best to submit all teh documents.

 

Hi All

I need some advice from members. I have recevied +ve assesment from ACS on 12th sept 2011. I have also read South Australia State Migration Plan has high demand for Software Engineers (they have not mentioned IELTS for Software Engineers and other IT codes)

Now I want to ask
1.As they have not mentioned IELTS, can I proceed for their sponsorship or do I have to get IELTS with 6 as per DIAC requriements? Even if I have to give IELTS with 6, then stil I can proceed without IELTS for their sponsorship. What you think ?

2.For State Migration , 176 do we need funds at early stage or at a later stage, becuase on their site they have mentioned that may or may not require proof of funds once we land there. So please let me know if you have any epxerience in this ?

3.As South Aust has high demands for Software Engineers, so lets say if Iam planning to go there, then what other benefit (other than the 2 years period) can I get in apply for 175. I think timelines for 176 are much quicker.

Thanks for your help as to how to proceed.

Once I give my IELTS I would be definite to decide which one to go for 175 or 176. As 175 requires 7 bands in each sectio, otherwise I might get short of some points, so then I have to look for 176.
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ACS Application (261313 - Software Engineer): +ve 12th Sept 2011 | IELTS: N/A

 

mimran,

1) I know almost NOTHING about sponsorship, but for those states which do not require IELTS you can start and finish the sponsorship process without it. But before applying in DIAC you *must* have the IELTS done.

2) As far as I know, they ask it during the sponsorship process. After the sponsorship is provided, your case is closed and that's it.

3) 176 is quicker, and requires less points (you gain sponsorship points).
But remember that sponsorship must be finalised BEFORE applying in DIAC, and the rules will change july/2012 again.

 

Artemisa, thanks for your guidance. Yes in case of SA I think DIAC would require atleast 6 in each band. Currently 2 things seems attractive to me for SA. First they have Software Engineer in high demand and 2nd they require minimum IELTS pasmark. Do you have other idea about which other states could be good for Sponsorship for Software Engineers

 

Question on Reference Letters

Hi Guys,

Hope all's well at your end.

I have an important query -

- I have worked with two group companies of same company, and then I changed to my current company last year (though I have basically worked for two companies till now). But I am still planning on getting one reference letter (statutory declaration) for each company. Means in total 3 reference letters (stat decl on stamp paers from supervisors)

Now, I read somewhere that you need to get multiple reference letters. Is it true in case of each employer. It means i need to get say 3 reference letter from each employee (each with same job responsibilities, and on stamp paper). This means 9 letters in all.

Is this true, or 1 statutory decl letter from each along with all proofs will suffice. :ranger:

Share your views, guys.

Thanks in advance.

 

no you can get one ref letter from the company as a stat dec, others can be references from colleagues, they can be on plain paper with respective id cards and business cards attached, you should ideally mention their email ids and contact details if they have to be contacted

 

To be clear, one statutory declaration from each company's supervisor (or colleague), means 3 for all three companies.

Along with that as a reference contacts of other employees who can be contacted to confirm my employment. Only their contact details required, no declaration from them.

Hope this is what you wanted to convey. Thanks.

 

Another thing,

- If I give self statutory declaration, and not a statutory declaration by a colleague/supervisor will it be disadvantageous.

- Do they prefer one given by supervisor (I am talking about stamp paper only, company letter head is difficult in both cases)

Do they treat one over other. I can get both.

But just that self-one will be more easier for me, and I can give reference/contact details along with it (if not business card).

Thanks in advance.

 

varun i told you what we gave, we did not give reference letter from seniors in the current company, instead gave a stat dec along with references from colleagues and we managed well, we gave lot of supporting documents. as long as you can prove you are in the said company they dont care what all you give. if you can manage the same on letterhead, wonderful, if it is difficult it means it is possible and not impossible, try and get as much as you can, it will be good for you.

 

Hi Anj..

I have read numerous posts you have written and they truly are helpful in all ways.. I am almost ready with all the papers required to be sent... here is where am kind of stuck!

I am also at the same stage as varunsal..

I have worked for 2 companies only..

For my current company, I have prepared a notarized self declaration, but got it witnessed (signed) by my manager and would also provide a notarize copy of his ID card and his business card along with this declaration.

I got an experience letter from my previous company, that states my date of joining and leaving also my roles and responsibilities.

Now at this stage, I am facing a couple of questions:

1) Do i need to get reference letters from my current and previous company colleagues?
2) If yes, do I need to get them on a stamp Paper? (I know Anj said that plain paper would do.. still just confirming)
3) Most important question::::Would I again need to get my roles and responsibilities mentioned in these reference letters? or these letters would just state that I worked with them in this company?

If there is a format i can be provided with for reference letters from colleagues.. that would be awesum!

Thanks a lot!

 

hi happ

plain paper is fine but do provide the person's business card and id card else they dont make sense, will you believe a piece of paper with with names and no proof attached?

as many references as you can, currrent, previous, it only makes your case stronger and supports your cv

 

Wow, thanks for a quick response..

Would you also have idea about the content that I should get in the references from colleagues??

I was able to search for the format of stat declaration in forums, but not for reference letters.

Thanks Again!

 

Documents to be sent to ACS

HI
I am applying for Skills Assessment to ACS (Online) . Below is the list of documents I will be sending to ACS:
1. Personal Documents:
a. Scanned Passport

2. Education and Qualifications:
a. Scanned Degree Certificate
b. Scanned Mark Sheets (All 8 Semesters)
c. Letter from the University to certify that the language of instruction was 'ENGLISH'

3. Work Experiences:
a. Experience certificate from the previous employers
b. Offer letters from the current and previous employers
c. PDF version of my CV

Could anyone please confirm, if I have missed anything.

Cheers!!!

 

HI
I am applying for Skills Assessment to ACS (Online) . Below is the list of documents I will be sending to ACS:
1. Personal Documents:
a. Scanned Passport

2. Education and Qualifications:
a. Scanned Degree Certificate
b. Scanned Mark Sheets (All 8 Semesters)
c. Letter from the University to certify that the language of instruction was 'ENGLISH'

3. Work Experiences:
a. Experience certificate from the previous employers
b. Offer letters from the current and previous employers
c. PDF version of my CV

Could anyone please confirm, if I have missed anything.

Cheers!!!

Don't forget to print the form (after applying it will generate a PDF) and sign it.

 

Senior Expats/Expats -

Do we need to get supporting documents like -

Offer Letter, Payslips, Bank Statements, Tax related Docs, Hike lettee, confirmation letter, etc attested from Notary?

Or we need to self attest it.

Please share your thoughts, or what you did :ranger:

Thanks in advance.

@anj, artemisa - Thanks for all your support