[juankarmadrid]

Your info is still unclear (at least for me). You said your wife don't/won't work by following you.

But...
Does your wife work before in Spain/home country and sacrifice her job just to follow you ?

If she's been working before in Spain, and quit her job just to follow you , it's a different story. You still can nego for better package if you clarify this info.

As i said before the key is self assessment. We here (at least for me) still unclear your wife job status before in Spain. I hate to say this, you are leaving money on the table if you accept the offer.

Hi Cassiopia,

the problem is that my wife don´t speak english so would be a problem once se will look a job oppornity, that´s the reason for not count her.

So , now we are considering the option only for me once the contract is for 2 years only maybe if get the offer would be enough ? (I´ll try to reach 22.400 AED´s gross salary)

Regards

 

[Cassiopia]

Hi Cassiopia,

the problem is that my wife don´t speak english so would be a problem once se will look a job oppornity, that´s the reason for not count her.

So , now we are considering the option only for me once the contract is for 2 years only maybe if get the offer would be enough ? (I´ll try to reach 22.400 AED´s gross salary)

Regards

What i mean is IF she quit her job in Spain, you are now losing a second income from your wife. Because of this, you have a strong reason to ask from the employer a spouse allowance or something else to compensate the lost of second income from your wife. That's from an international expat basic compensation principle. But in the end it is still up to the employer generosity. Your job is to make them feel "guilty" by not compensating the lost of the second income. Can't speak english is not your/her problem. The point is by following you abroad , she lose her job back home. And overall you are losing money and "worse off" than before.

If she's not working before in Spain , it's another case. Still if you dig your own situation you can still ask something else beside the spouse allowance.

Again it's still up to the employer, if really need you, and you present your case appropriately , you will get something a bit more.

 

[egiuliani]

Hello all, I'm in the negotiating phase of my contract with my potential employer in Dubai and I'm hoping for any and all advice as this is very uncharted territory for me. I have not yet committed to anything and I will have the 5th Skype conversation on Thursday where I expect if they will offer me the position we will also be discussing the employment package.

I'm an American in my early 20s, unmarried with an undergraduate degree from a top US university interviewing for a position as a College Admissions Consultant and English/standardized test trainer.

The numbers my potential employer suggested $10,000 USD/yr minimum base salary with the stipulation the majority of my money would come from commissions. He said that selling the most comprehensive education package would earn me 15k Dhs each and my success would depend on the success of my sales and marketing.

He guaranteed that essentials including food, housing, and if needed, transport back to the US would be provided but said the money I make is up to how much I put into it. I'm concerned about the uncertainty but I know I can live simply and on a tight budget, and I'm excited for this opportunity.

The company has been in Dubai for 6 years, and has branches in other countries as well but the Dubai branch will be undergoing significant rebranding which I will be a part of. If anyone willing to help me would like more personal information on my situation I would be happy to message privately as well.

Thank you for the help.

 

[vantage]

Single, mid level associate position in an investment firm. ~50k all-inclusive monthly.

Is this a question?

 

[vantage]

Hello all, I'm in the negotiating phase of my contract with my potential employer in Dubai and I'm hoping for any and all advice as this is very uncharted territory for me. I have not yet committed to anything and I will have the 5th Skype conversation on Thursday where I expect if they will offer me the position we will also be discussing the employment package.

I'm an American in my early 20s, unmarried with an undergraduate degree from a top US university interviewing for a position as a College Admissions Consultant and English/standardized test trainer.

The numbers my potential employer suggested $10,000 USD/yr minimum base salary with the stipulation the majority of my money would come from commissions. He said that selling the most comprehensive education package would earn me 15k Dhs each and my success would depend on the success of my sales and marketing.

He guaranteed that essentials including food, housing, and if needed, transport back to the US would be provided but said the money I make is up to how much I put into it. I'm concerned about the uncertainty but I know I can live simply and on a tight budget, and I'm excited for this opportunity.

The company has been in Dubai for 6 years, and has branches in other countries as well but the Dubai branch will be undergoing significant rebranding which I will be a part of. If anyone willing to help me would like more personal information on my situation I would be happy to message privately as well.

Thank you for the help.

paying you AED 3,000 a month is peanuts, so you had better be confident that the Commission is 'real'

find out more about the food and accommodation on offer.

find out more about the commission structure. You may find that a non-comprehensive education package pays significant less commission, on an exponential scale....

 

[Sunder]

Hello all, I'm in the negotiating phase of my contract with my potential employer in Dubai and I'm hoping for any and all advice as this is very uncharted territory for me. I have not yet committed to anything and I will have the 5th Skype conversation on Thursday where I expect if they will offer me the position we will also be discussing the employment package.

I'm an American in my early 20s, unmarried with an undergraduate degree from a top US university interviewing for a position as a College Admissions Consultant and English/standardized test trainer.

The numbers my potential employer suggested $10,000 USD/yr minimum base salary with the stipulation the majority of my money would come from commissions. He said that selling the most comprehensive education package would earn me 15k Dhs each and my success would depend on the success of my sales and marketing.

He guaranteed that essentials including food, housing, and if needed, transport back to the US would be provided but said the money I make is up to how much I put into it. I'm concerned about the uncertainty but I know I can live simply and on a tight budget, and I'm excited for this opportunity.

The company has been in Dubai for 6 years, and has branches in other countries as well but the Dubai branch will be undergoing significant rebranding which I will be a part of. If anyone willing to help me would like more personal information on my situation I would be happy to message privately as well.

Thank you for the help.

Please find out more about the offer, $10K per year is way too less... Commissions can be very tricky, what if you cant sell the package for 3 consecutive months ? Much of it depends on your lifestyle. ASk whether the accomodation is shared or you would be living alone ? I would wonder if any company pays for the food.

 

[AUS expat]

Hi,

I'm a qualified electrical engineer (buildings) with a trade background and 18 years experience, currently working in Australia. My company has made me an offer of 43,000AED per month including accommodation allowance to work in a client facing role in Dubai.

This is around $150k in AUD or 516,000 in AED p.a. which is comparable to Australia. But no Tax of course, so around $43k AUD better off.

I have a wife and 2 kids who are not at school yet, just looking for opinions as to whether this is a good offer based on the Dubai economy and cost of living.

We would need a 3 bedroom place, decent size and 2 cars. Likely need to get a nanny of sorts to help my wife with the transition and not having family there.

Is this a good offer? Will it provide opportunity to save?

Welcome some feedback.

 

[Sunder]

Hi,

I'm a qualified electrical engineer (buildings) with a trade background and 18 years experience, currently working in Australia. My company has made me an offer of 43,000AED per month including accommodation allowance to work in a client facing role in Dubai.

This is around $150k in AUD or 516,000 in AED p.a. which is comparable to Australia. But no Tax of course, so around $43k AUD better off.

I have a wife and 2 kids who are not at school yet, just looking for opinions as to whether this is a good offer based on the Dubai economy and cost of living.

We would need a 3 bedroom place, decent size and 2 cars. Likely need to get a nanny of sorts to help my wife with the transition and not having family there.

Is this a good offer? Will it provide opportunity to save?

Welcome some feedback.

Well AUS Expat, It all depends on your lifestyle. Your kids will be going to school soon, and the schools are very costly ( American Schools - 80-100K per year), a grade lower will be around 50-60K a year. 3BHK will cost you around 150K -200K AED per year, Cars aint a problem, neither is getting a nanny, I hope you can do your maths. Is your wife going to work ? How often do you eat outside ? If you are not saving double than what you are saving in Oz, I would say negotiate else be in there. Well with 18 yrs of exp you can certainly get more than this.

Cheers,
Sunder.

 

[TallyHo]

As long as your kids aren't in school yet, you can live comfortably and save money.

You should budget around 200K a year for your villa, including utilities. It can get more expensive, of course, but 200K is a decent budget for a 3-bed property + expenses.

School fees range quite a bit. The western expat schools will start at around 35K per child at the low end for the primary years and go up from there. And fees go up every year.

Altogether, your package is perfectly livable and if you stick to a budget you will save money. It's what I'd call a bog-standard family package for a Western expat family. Not flash, not remarkable, but comfortable enough. But you must stick to a budget otherwise you probably won't save much money.

Do try and negotiate as much as you can. Closer to 50K/month the better off you are. Few companies give annual salary increases and there are many people still on the same package they received five years ago.

Hi,

I'm a qualified electrical engineer (buildings) with a trade background and 18 years experience, currently working in Australia. My company has made me an offer of 43,000AED per month including accommodation allowance to work in a client facing role in Dubai.

This is around $150k in AUD or 516,000 in AED p.a. which is comparable to Australia. But no Tax of course, so around $43k AUD better off.

I have a wife and 2 kids who are not at school yet, just looking for opinions as to whether this is a good offer based on the Dubai economy and cost of living.

We would need a 3 bedroom place, decent size and 2 cars. Likely need to get a nanny of sorts to help my wife with the transition and not having family there.

Is this a good offer? Will it provide opportunity to save?

Welcome some feedback.

 

[Nesha_gal]

Salary for Finance project manager with 8 years experience

Hi there, I have received several offers for a project manager role based in Dubai, all offering the roughly the same of 30-35K per month which includes accomodation cost. I have been advised that the base salary should be 40K/month plus accomodation - please can some advise.

Also if the accomodation is part of my salary then how do I pay the rent if they want 4 cheques and I dont have the funds for the first cheque? is this a common problem in Dubai?

Lastly, how much would a single person need to cover monthly outgoings (1-2 night outs and general food and bills) - trying to figure out what I need to have as a monthly salary.

thanks

 

[Olga_RU]

Hello friends.
I'm russian and i'm going to Dubai in september for a month on tourist visa. I'll try my best to find a good job there. I'm accountant at local company and unfortunatelly i dont have experience at international company. But i have about 10 years experience in trading, sales and management. Of course i dont expect to find a job offer over 10K Drh a month untill i get some experience in UAE. This is why i'd like to know what avarage salary should i expect.
Thanks for your reply =)

 

[Alexandaria]

Hello friends.
I'm russian and i'm going to Dubai in september for a month on tourist visa. I'll try my best to find a good job there. I'm accountant at local company and unfortunatelly i dont have experience at international company. But i have about 10 years experience in trading, sales and management. Of course i dont expect to find a job offer over 10K Drh a month untill i get some experience in UAE. This is why i'd like to know what avarage salary should i expect.
Thanks for your reply =)

Of course , obviously expect anything much higher from your previous salary.

 

[Sunder]

Hi there, I have received several offers for a project manager role based in Dubai, all offering the roughly the same of 30-35K per month which includes accomodation cost. I have been advised that the base salary should be 40K/month plus accomodation - please can some advise.

Also if the accomodation is part of my salary then how do I pay the rent if they want 4 cheques and I dont have the funds for the first cheque? is this a common problem in Dubai?

Lastly, how much would a single person need to cover monthly outgoings (1-2 night outs and general food and bills) - trying to figure out what I need to have as a monthly salary.

thanks

Hello Nesha_gal,

This happens to most of the expats in Dubai, you can open a bank account with your employers letter, but for the contract you would be needing your passport and Visa. So in general companies offer 15-30 days accomodation when you arrive in Dubai. This is in general the time taken for Visa and in the meantime if you find your apartment to live. If the company is paying for your rent, then you have to give 2-4 post dated cheques to the landlord. So say if you start living in June the 1st cheque will be dated for 1st Aug and next will be for 1st Nov.

Many companies do pay all the accomodation allowance in one time to their employees who can then pay in a single cheque to landlords to get some discount.

Hope this help you.

Thanks,
Sunder.

 

[malongun]

Hi All;

Sorry to jump in the gun here ! I am new and got an offer in Abu Dhabi. I am an experience 48 years young South East Asian with professional degree from Australia with 24+ years experience. Presently I am working and living in Sihanoukville Cambodia (not my home country). I have been working and living in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan in the past. My current package is a contract and soon expiring. The current package is in excess of USD100k per annum with 10% tax.

I was offered a position in an O&G company in Abu Dhabi with the following packages:-

Basics Salary : AED 15,962; Which I think very very low with regards to experience (I have asked for more and they told me that is the best they can offer ?).
Other Allowances : AED 5600 + AED 3240 per month.
Housing Allowance : AED200,000 per annum which I think it is a standards housing allowance for wife and 4 kids ( 11,13,17 and 18).
Car Loans : AED150,000 which is a standards company loans.
Children Education : AED35,000 per annum per kids which I think I have to dig in to support my older kids ????
Annual Leave : 42 days per calendar year.
Medical and Insurance : Standards company medical package.

My reason to move is that I have been passing through many times the city of Abu Dhabi and love the place so much ! My questions now is it worth the effort for me to take the plunge ? and move to Abu Dhabi ? Or I wait for another offer ? Since I am confident that there are so many O&G opportunity in SEA at the moment ?

Regards;

 

[Sunder]

Hi All;

Sorry to jump in the gun here ! I am new and got an offer in Abu Dhabi. I am an experience 48 years young South East Asian with professional degree from Australia with 24+ years experience. Presently I am working and living in Sihanoukville Cambodia (not my home country). I have been working and living in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan in the past. My current package is a contract and soon expiring. The current package is in excess of USD100k per annum with 10% tax.

I was offered a position in an O&G company in Abu Dhabi with the following packages:-

Basics Salary : AED 15,962; Which I think very very low with regards to experience (I have asked for more and they told me that is the best they can offer ?).
Other Allowances : AED 5600 + AED 3240 per month.
Housing Allowance : AED200,000 per annum which I think it is a standards housing allowance for wife and 4 kids ( 11,13,17 and 18).
Car Loans : AED150,000 which is a standards company loans.
Children Education : AED35,000 per annum per kids which I think I have to dig in to support my older kids ????
Annual Leave : 42 days per calendar year.
Medical and Insurance : Standards company medical package.

My reason to move is that I have been passing through many times the city of Abu Dhabi and love the place so much ! My questions now is it worth the effort for me to take the plunge ? and move to Abu Dhabi ? Or I wait for another offer ? Since I am confident that there are so many O&G opportunity in SEA at the moment ?

Regards;

Hello malongun,

With the kind of housing allowance you are getting, I will say its just a liveable offer, you might have to pump in 30-40K a year extra on your kids schooling. Without accomo your total adds upto around 24K per month. Just enquire who is gonna pay your utility bills and whether you will get the housing allowance in your account or the co is going to pay directly to the landlord.

 

[malongun]

Thanks for the quick reply Sunder. I was told they will pay directly to the house owner / landlord, means I will not gain anything from it !

Regards;

 

[malongun]

Dear Sunder;

The allowances of AED5600 and AED3240 are for the tickets, utilities and etc. Which now I think does not help much in even reducing my family yearly tickets home ! I have to dig in my own pockets money to pay for the tickets !

Regards;

 

[Olga_RU]

Of course , obviously expect anything much higher from your previous salary.

haha yes, you're right, but expenses in my city and in Dubai are gonna be different, so my salary now doesnt matter. this is why im asking about average wages for manager or accountant.

 

[Sunder]

Dear Sunder;

The allowances of AED5600 and AED3240 are for the tickets, utilities and etc. Which now I think does not help much in even reducing my family yearly tickets home ! I have to dig in my own pockets money to pay for the tickets !

Regards;

Well, judge and then decide, see what other forum members have to say in your case. I live in Dubai and all I hear is Abu Dhabi is more expensive than Dubai.

Cheers,
Sunder.

 

[Jager]

Hi,

I'm a qualified electrical engineer (buildings) with a trade background and 18 years experience, currently working in Australia. My company has made me an offer of 43,000AED per month including accommodation allowance to work in a client facing role in Dubai.

This is around $150k in AUD or 516,000 in AED p.a. which is comparable to Australia. But no Tax of course, so around $43k AUD better off.

AUS Expat, be careful with the 'No Tax' assumption. Unless your out of Australia a minimum of two years, you may find the ATO making a claim on your 'tax free' income - they've done it before. Best to get some professional advice.