[jamesleahymma]

Yeah - thats why I'm chasing a contract and written details.

I have great faith in the concept and think that it will do remarkably well. UAE is the fastest growing coffee market in the world at the moment, and this company has the right ethics and I believe in it.

As far as I'm aware - it really is a case of too many cooks in the kitchen at the moment - and a skype meeting I had with the Marketing Director confirmed that on Saturday. He told me that due to Ramadan and the relentless heat of the summer - a few of the 9 have been on holiday, on reduced hours ext and thus out of the loop. So decisions have been taking so much longer to get made as its rare to get all 9 in the room at the same time. The guy I spoke to is in the same level of seniority as myself so had no reason to spin me a yarn or lie to me. I was actually very relieved that he shared my frustration in their lack of urgency and indecision.

There are 9 investors at the mo - all of whom of course want a say in the set up. This will dwindle to a board of 4 or 5 once the business is up and running. So hopefully things will level out - and although there is equal share for the investors, in my experience the natural leaders step forward and things gain a structure from there. Some people are just cash investors and all they care about is the return on their money - others will be operating as a part of the business. So the hierarchy and structure of us all should become evident once all opening / operational decisions have been made and the business begins to run.

 

[nspm]

No mate, that’s a very bad package for a family. If your wife finds a job on similar wage then you’ll do ok. As a single income 18k a month isn’t enough for a family. Full stop.

Thanks mate. May I ask what would you consider a fair salary offer for an IT consultant ?

Thanks

 

[zed_kid]

Thanks mate. May I ask what would you consider a fair salary offer for an IT consultant ?

Thanks

For a family you’re going to need about 30k a month, if you get it from 2 incomes or 1 that’s what you need, in my opinion.

I don’t know whats a fair salary for an IT consultant, I don’t work in IT, sorry

 

[touroperator.dz]

Accommodation provided/live out allowance

Dear all,

I am an Algerian hotelier willing to relocate in Dubai on the next September to look for a job in the hospitality industry Inshallah.

Since I am married (without children), my big worry is about the family entry and settlment of my wife in the case I get a job of course.

1- I read many articles on the net saying that the husband sponsor should earn at least 3000 AED if accomodation is provided and 4000 AED if accomodation isn't provided and This may have increased to AED 5,000 or 6,000 per month without accommodation since 2009. is it true? how it works ?

2- I read also an article saying that a law is to be settled by the immigraation dept stipulate that the tenancy contract should be provided for husbands sponsoring thier wives for family settlment. Is it true? how it works then ?

3- 90 % of hotels employers provide accommodation to thier staff line-level, in this case I want to know what do they provide for a married employee! do they offer a one bed room/studio for couples or give live out allowance

Many thanks for the responders

 

[abbzia786]

All
I was wondering if someone can advise me if there is a way i can get a sample expat contract to work in Dubai.

I posted a few days ago about my offer and I am in the 3rd round of negotiation phase right now. But since this company that I received an offer from, is relocating someone for the first time internationally (Dubai), they have no clue on allowances and other items built within a contract. As such,
1. can you advise me where i can get a sample contract or if i need to PM someone to get some info on a confidential basis?
2. Any information on tax for US expats in Dubai where i can play with some numbers and see what effects my numbers or is there a tax consultant you recommend?


Work Background: US Citizen - Applications Engineer 2005-2012, Branch Sales Manager 2012 - Present in Chicago for a commercial pump company
Offer Received to relocate to Dubai: The offering company is relocating someone internationally for the first time. Position title is International Regional Sales Development Manager. This position is responsible for growing business in the MENA region (Middle East and North Africa) and requires upto 50% travel.
Thank you!

 

[AugustChristopher]

Dear all,

I am an Algerian hotelier willing to relocate in Dubai on the next September to look for a job in the hospitality industry Inshallah.

Since I am married (without children), my big worry is about the family entry and settlment of my wife in the case I get a job of course.

1- I read many articles on the net saying that the husband sponsor should earn at least 3000 AED if accomodation is provided and 4000 AED if accomodation isn't provided and This may have increased to AED 5,000 or 6,000 per month without accommodation since 2009. is it true? how it works ?

2- I read also an article saying that a law is to be settled by the immigraation dept stipulate that the tenancy contract should be provided for husbands sponsoring thier wives for family settlment. Is it true? how it works then ?

3- 90 % of hotels employers provide accommodation to thier staff line-level, in this case I want to know what do they provide for a married employee! do they offer a one bed room/studio for couples or give live out allowance

Many thanks for the responders

I guess it all comes to your employer: some will provide family accommodation for line staff (less likely) and others will require you come on single status..

My advice would be to negotiate negotiate and negotiate..bearing in mind you have the language asset...Look for employment in big chains as well -it is more likely they have their own staff housing and you can be lucky..

Good luck.

 

[riskylondon]

Hello all

Eid Mubarak,
So need some advice what kind of salary should a mid-senior(10 years experience) level in telecommunication industry expect and with what benefits. Thanks for your feedback.

Much appreciated

 

[vantage]

Hello all

Eid Mubarak,
So need some advice what kind of salary should a mid-senior(10 years experience) level in telecommunication industry expect and with what benefits. Thanks for your feedback.

Much appreciated

Have a read through this thread, and the previous 'part 1' thread.
Loads of info.

 

[boris&L]

All
I was wondering if someone can advise me if there is a way i can get a sample expat contract to work in Dubai.

I posted a few days ago about my offer and I am in the 3rd round of negotiation phase right now. But since this company that I received an offer from, is relocating someone for the first time internationally (Dubai), they have no clue on allowances and other items built within a contract. As such,
1. can you advise me where i can get a sample contract or if i need to PM someone to get some info on a confidential basis?
2. Any information on tax for US expats in Dubai where i can play with some numbers and see what effects my numbers or is there a tax consultant you recommend?


Work Background: US Citizen - Applications Engineer 2005-2012, Branch Sales Manager 2012 - Present in Chicago for a commercial pump company
Offer Received to relocate to Dubai: The offering company is relocating someone internationally for the first time. Position title is International Regional Sales Development Manager. This position is responsible for growing business in the MENA region (Middle East and North Africa) and requires upto 50% travel.
Thank you!

Is the company in a free Zone? if so which one?

I am asking because usually company contracts here in the UAE (local contracts) are fairly the same and they all follow the labor law. You could find all the terms applicable in the labor law and regulation website.

Regarding allowances, My advice is to negotiate in a way to put as much allowances as you can in your basic salary, since the end service benefits will be based on your basic excluding allowances.

The relocation part is about additional allowances for relocation (in and outbound ). These costs are pretty straight forward as long as you discuss what you need : number of people to be relocated, container for your belongings if any , etc.

As per local regulation, you will be entitled to at least 1 return ticket to your home country per year. Some companies offer two tickets, but I would always advise to put that money into your basic salary, since the cost of the tickets will be considered as allowance.

Shout if you need more info. :bolt:

 

[SophieCanada]

Canadian lawyer thinking of making the move

Hi all, I've looked through some of the info here and its so helpful!

I'm a Canadian trained lawyer with 10 years of experience (top tier firm and in-house) in regulatory law for financial services. I've done some lending work, not a whole lot but I could certainly do more. I've also done corporate work, corporate secretarial and M&A with a focus on FIs. I've also done some work for Islamic bank clients.

I've had friends whispering in my ears about how great Dubai is and how it can offer both a great salary as well as that elusive work/life balance. I'm single and don't have kids - and if it makes a difference, i'm a woman.

I'd be interested in getting your thoughts on the following:

1) wld my skills be valued in Dubai?

2) what would be a good package for a lawyer with this much experience. (With this question, of course, I'm trying to determine if the opportunities in Dubai are worth leaving my job with a large bank here and uprooting my life generally. Once I have this info I can figure out whether after factoring in accommodation and other expenses, I will be better off in Dubai.

3) what kind of hours do lawyers work (in-house and firm numbers would be good to know)?

4) anything else I should be thinking about?

Thanks so much!

 

[Listonbrown]

Ex pat package

Hi,
I was recently offered a job as a restaurant
manager in Dubai. The package includes rent ,
Transportation, meals ( 5 days a week ), benefits,
And 1400$-2400$ a month. I have no idea what
To compare this with, any help?

Matt

 

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

Hi,
I was recently offered a job as a restaurant
manager in Dubai. The package includes rent ,
Transportation, meals ( 5 days a week ), benefits,
And 1400$-2400$ a month. I have no idea what
To compare this with, any help?

Matt

Be careful with language such as "package includes", as that usually means this benefits are paid as cash allowances in your total package. What you've written is a bit ambiguous, as you say "and $x a month".

If you have actual accommodation, transport and meals provided - $USD 2,500 p/m is do-able, but I wouldn't accept less than $USD 3,000 even with all that provided.

If it's not physically provided and these are cash allowances in your pay, I'd say a minimum of $USD 4,000 p/m is more realistic.

 

[vantage]

Hi,
I was recently offered a job as a restaurant
manager in Dubai. The package includes rent ,
Transportation, meals ( 5 days a week ), benefits,
And 1400$-2400$ a month. I have no idea what
To compare this with, any help?

Matt

Notwithstanding Fat Bhoy's comments, to be offered a sum of 1400 to 2400 seems an exceptionally large spread.

Get every item listed out.
What is in the figure listed, and what is provided on top of that.
Ask what the accommodation is, where it is, and who/how many you are sharing with.
What are the meals? Restaurant meals only? This is a big no if it is McDonalds etc, as your internal organs will fail in three months.

 

[rupeshmail]

Hi,

I have been offered the below package in Dubai. Will i survive? I am from India and working in Healthcare IT Sector. Please help.

Salary 22,000 AED
Housing 5,000AED
Transportation 2,000AED
Phone - - -
Air Ticket - - -
Education - - -

and USD$5,000 for incidentals.

Thanks.

 

[163985]

Hi,

I have been offered the below package in Dubai. Will i survive? I am from India and working in Healthcare IT Sector. Please help.

Salary 22,000 AED
Housing 5,000AED
Transportation 2,000AED
Phone - - -
Air Ticket - - -
Education - - -

and USD$5,000 for incidentals.

Thanks.

You left out a some important details like: marital status, no. of kids, age of said kids. Without that information, no one can give you an appropriate reply. For instance, the above package is fine if you are a bachelor, or even a couple without kids.

p.s: what does the - - - mean in your post ...

 

[rupeshmail]

You left out a some important details like: marital status, no. of kids, age of said kids. Without that information, no one can give you an appropriate reply. For instance, the above package is fine if you are a bachelor, or even a couple without kids.

p.s: what does the - - - mean in your post ...

Sorry. Here are the details.

I am married with a 10 months old kid.

My wife is working currently but if i happen to move to Dubai she will not be working.

---- was part of the offer which i assume to be NIL.

Let me know if you need any other info.

Also if this seems to be less, then what would be an ideal qoute?

What other components should i ask for.? Please suggest.

Thanks,

 

[163985]

Sorry. Here are the details.

I am married with a 10 months old kid.

My wife is working currently but if i happen to move to Dubai she will not be working.

---- was part of the offer which i assume to be NIL.

Let me know if you need any other info.

Also if this seems to be less, then what would be an ideal qoute?

What other components should i ask for.? Please suggest.

Thanks,

In that case, sounds fine. The 5k for housing wouldn't get you a 1 bed in a decent area. But if you look at it as a total amount you get, then the extra on the housing can be covered, without hurting you too hard financially.

I would check with them regarding the tickets. Annual air fare is provided pretty much everywhere and should be included for you and the family (you might have to negotiate the family part). Schooling doesn't factor in until later on, so I wouldn't bring it up.

 

[rupeshmail]

Thanks Saraswat.

Can you also help me out with what (on an average) will be the expense for a family of 3 in Dubai. Please take into consideration the components like Utilities, gas, electricity, food expense, dining out once every week(medium hotel),internet, cable etc

Can i have you email address?

Thanks.

 

[challah]

Hi All

I have a job interview as with emirate group as EK.07 Im not sure what this grade means and what type as salary I will receive..they advise me to say how much I expect but I havent reply yet..Please advise.

Challah

 

[myyankees]

Hi All

I have a job interview as with emirate group as EK.07 Im not sure what this grade means and what type as salary I will receive..they advise me to say how much I expect but I havent reply yet..Please advise.

Challah

Is it an IT position? When is your skype interview? Grade 07 is about 15K Dirhams including transport and accommodation... that is what I have heard.