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France is one of the powerhouses of the European Union and still attracts so much interest from foreign residents looking to relocate overseas. The country has a truly unique and fashion entirely its own often mentioned in the same breath as Italy as a popular country for romantic rendezvous and getaways.

There is however a lot to France behind the scenes, with culture, art and architecture once again coming to fore. This country certainly has much to offer both in terms of employment and everyday life as it has a deeply ingrained faith in the freedom of speech, which forms the basis of French law and culture. These are some of the reasons why the Expat community living in France flourishes and thrives by the day.



Content: Culture in France | Employment in France | Property in France | State Benefits in France | Key Facts on France

French Culture

France is one of the true metropolitan countries of the world, as it integrates into its own a variety of different cultures over the centuries which has in the past resulted in a number of internal disputes. The country is heavily infused with certain elements of religion and culture prevalent in different areas.

The country is well known for its love of the arts and architecture and has a long and great history, taking in revolutions, wars and major changes in the way that the country is run, full, vibrant and headstrong. Its freedom of speech has attracted a number of outspoken and controversial figures to lead its political governance and has placed all areas of society under discussion.

Employment in France

France has been, for many years, a hive of private enterprise with over 2.5 million companies registered in the country. However, the government still maintains a stranglehold on the major industries including defense, transport, insurance and banking, but government is slowly practicing laissez faire, loosening their grip on these major industries.

The working arena is still suffering from the days of massive unemployment over 30 years ago, and France has the lowest percentage of 15 – 64 year olds in work throughout the developed world. This has certainly increased with the current financial recession, as unemployment rates in the first half of 2009 hover around 9.3%. While this is slowly improving there is still a long way to go to compete with the likes of the US, UK and Japan. However, this has left a gap in the market for foreign nationals actively looking for employment, and the fact that French students continue their education for longer than their European counterparts is also of assistance.

Unfortunately the tax situation in France is a lot harsher than other European counterparts, with up to 60% of gross pay being diverted into the French State Benefit system. It is a requirement of French law that either you or your employer register you with the authorities as an official worker in France – failure to comply with the regulations can lead to grave consequences for your long term residency in the country.

French Property

The housing market in France has historically been a lot steadier than for example the UK market (and many other European partners). A large number of European residents relocating to France where property prices are on average substantially lower. This has been the trend in 2009 as many property investors are seeking hard bargains for the properties in the market.

However, there is a large difference in pricing, depending on location, with older housing less expensive than new builds (this is a market which has attracted UK buyers, who tend to look for history and character for their properties). Inner city accommodation is obviously the more expensive, with countryside property prices much lower. Widely fluctuating property prices are one less worry when looking to relocate to France.

State Benefits in France

France has one of the most lucrative and expanding state benefit budgets in the developed world, with little hope of this trend changing in the immediate future. The country has one of the most work force protective benefits systems across Europe, with the jobless well compensated for their lack of genuine income. The latest aspect of this expansion is the creation of the RMI unemployment benefit or the "revenu de solidarte active" .

Unemployment benefit, income support and maternity pay are just some of the major costs to the state benefit system. As the working population can contribute up to 60% of the gross salary to the state, this has often provoked anger from the business community.

The current government is committed to spending million of euros encouraging the unemployed back to work, but with the benefits system ingrained in French society, this will be a long term project. However, this does leave potential for foreign nationals to find employment in France, safe in the knowledge that they will be looked after by the state if they were to lose their employment at any point in the future.

Conclusion

While France has many attractions to foreign nationals looking to relocate, there are a number of areas which need to be addressed. While there are genuine gaps in the employment market which can be exploited by overseas workers, the downside is the taxation situation. The first one France Expat Forum last August 22, 2009 shares the tip that:

“Applying for work kind of depends on what line of work you're in, and how good your French is. For social security, your employer should sign you up your first day on the job.“



It is easy to see why France has the most foreign visitors of any other country in Europe, but relocating there is a different matter. It requires careful planning and an appreciation of the cultures of this widely differing nation. As one other expat said France Expat Forum last August 19, 2002:

“Life is too short to sit in the rain and under the grey clouds of Belfast!!”

More facts about France :-

Capital : Paris

Official Language : French

Government : Unitary Republic, with a President and Prime Minister.

Size : 674,843km2

Population : 64.1 million

Currency : Euro / French Franc

International Dialling Code : 33+

Economy : 6th largest in the world

Religion : Mixed (although 51% of the population are Catholics)

France has a significant English speaking expat population, mostly consisting of retired and so-called inactive expats - ie below retirement age, but not in active employment. The workplace in France is very protected, and finding work if you are not a native French speaker will prove difficult. In the Brittany and Dordogne regions there are a high number of English speaking expats, and many people find employment by providing services to this (wealthy) community. Corsica also attracts a certain number of expats, but does not yet offer significant employment possibilities.

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I want to move to france. I am not quite sure what part but I deff. want to move there. I am married and have a 5month old and a almost 2 year old. I am very curious how much it would cost to move to france and what is required for the move. Does it cost much to move to france and if so how much?? And what kind of jobs are available in france??
 
#4 ·
Hi Tiffany. We do regular moves to France - all in all it depends how much you would require moving to France? We do regular man and van removals to France in our Long Wheelbase high top vans which hold 13 cubic meters. These vans are the smallest size vans we take to France and are the cheapest. Another option that could make your move even cheaper is if you are flexible with your dates or should I say you let us know in advance the date of your move and we can try and fit it in with another job coming back from France. Another thing worth mentioning when you move to France is to double check the moving companies have got contents insurance for your belongings. You don't want your items damaged or stolen and not get nothing in return for them. Hope this helps. Regards. Darren.
 
#6 ·
HI
We are looking to move to france with two young children. My husband is a plumber and i work in the catering industry.
Which areas of france could you suggest that would be good for children and also reasonable to get work in?
Any other hints or tips would be very gratefully received, especially in renting a house for us.
Many thanks
Louisa
 
#7 ·
I am looking to permanently re-locate to Duras area and am in the first instance looking to do a winter let for 2/3 months starting around 1st November 2010. Ideally positioned in or very close to Duras - 3 bedrooms - internet/wireless and phone line needed so I can continue running my business. If anyone knows of apartment/town house or similar for winter let could you let me know please. Thank you.
 
#8 ·
I am seeking permanent residence in France. I am currently an American citizen. I am 56 years old and on social security. I desire living in an area that has reasonable rent, if possible -- $600 - $800/mo. I do have 4 cats that I could never part with. I have always admired the French people, their views, and lifestyles. I am a quarter French myself. My late grandmother is French decent. I'm not particular what part of France I move to, as long as I can get there. How do I go about finding accommodations and hooking up with American expats. What are the steps I need to take to achieve this lifelong goal.

Thanks you,
Debra
 
#9 ·
moving and semi retiring to france how do I take income from my american corporation and avoid double taxation, the company is an LLc and I am a consultant with staff working there in the USA I will not be working in France just living there. What do I need to do to avoid tax issues.
 
#10 ·
Hi there im a 33 year old guy with over 15 years exp in landscapes and garden services and im looking at relocating to france to start my work there can anyone offer any advice or even maybe a contract to get me up and running and settled. i have my own website and can provide refs to show my work is good and im honest and genuine if you can help my e mail is stacehughes16@hotmail.com
 
#12 ·
Hello Jill,
As French citizen, I can tell you French law is very complicated. However, if you stay at least 120 days out of France, you are not taxable in France.
If you stay more, you have to declare to French administration your American revenue as already under American law. (there is a convention between France and some foreign country and USA is part of them) In that case, you will not have to pay in France, having already paid your taxes in America.
However, remind you will have to pay taxes for your French home, such as "taxe d'habitation" and "taxe fonciere", which are steadily rising.
 
#13 ·
Hello Debra,
My wife and I are retired, and we run a small business activity to increase our revenues in helping foreign citizens to settle in our area, the south of Britanny , around 100 kms from Nantes.
This area is calm, with wonderful sceneries, the Loire river, the "golfe du Morbihan", the climate is mild, and cost of living still cheap.
If you are still motivated to come to France, we can help you and your cats ( we have 4 too!) to get through the Fench jungle laws and avoid many traps.
In any case, you have to know the cost of renting in France is at least 600€ for a flat with two rooms, kitchen , etc, in town. It depends mainly on where you want to be ( central town or suburb or country).If you want to meet other American or English speaking people, you have a strong community in Nantes ( with lot of pubs), also in Rennes.
If you prefer the country, there are English communities in Morbihan ; also in North of Britanny, in that case, keep your umbrella with you... ( I say that, because I am a "south Breton"..)
Do not hesitate to contact us if you want more infos.
Jacques
 
#14 ·
Hi Louisa,
France is pretty safe in general. I've been living here for 2 years now- just 30 minutes from Bordeaux's city centre. It's a great place to live, because you have a big city- and therefore lots of job opportunities and amenities, yet there is a great sense of family life and a calm pace. People take their time for lunch, for example...the beach is closeby, the mountains not to far away...
Let me know if you need more info :)
 
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hi jacques please could you email me darrenward1@hotmail.co.uk. im looking to move to france with my partner and we are both in our 20s. we are not sure where to start. we would like some information on work in france and houseing. many thanks darren
 
#16 ·
Hey I am 17 and I'm thinking of moving to France or Australia when I get older. I am sick of American and the poor quality of life and terrible health care system. I was wondering what are good jobs are needed in France or what would be a good thing to go to college for?
 
#17 ·
I have lived in France for 11 years and my wife has been here for considerably longer and we have, as required by the authorities, kept all our fiscal records for the last 10 years. We cannot arrive at the same figure as your editorial that 'up to' 60% of one's gross salary would go to into the social security system. Where do these figures come from? Are they based on much greater saries than we normal working folk receive? If you base your figures on the earnings of bankers and footballers then maybe 60% might be correct. Attribution is at the heart of professional journalism.
 
#19 ·
Hi Susie, Myself and my wife are interested in moving to France from Scotland within the next few years and specifically I had been looking at Bordeaux and the surrounding areas. We are even planning a holiday this summer and I hope to do some scouting work. How easy it is for English Speaking people to get unskilled work in the area, as neither of us really as trades? would be good if you can give me some help
Thanks in advance.
John.
 
#21 ·
Hello all - I am hoping to move to Paris this year for my work as a designer, and am told it's quite difficult to get set up there as an American. My french is decent, and of course will only improve with immersion- but I hear it's almost impossible to rent an apartment, get phone service, etc?
Any tips you can share on this? and also, if it was hard to integrate as an American?
Thanks in advance-
 
#22 ·
Hi Susie,

I am coming to France on a 12 week program, but I want to stay. I am over 30, so I no longer qualify for the au pair jobs. I want to find a job so I can stay for a long while and perfect my French. I want to find something before I leave. How do I do so? Please email me at nseutuk@hotmail.com. Thanks.
 
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