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Certificate of French Nationality

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#1 ·
Hi, my mother was French and I was born in the UK!! My mother registered my birth at the French Consulate in 1985 and also registered her marriage to my father who originally came from Barbados but had a British passport!!
Both my parents are now deceased but I applied for a French passport in December 2019 at The French Consulate in London and obtained it a week later!!
My youngest daughter then applied to have her British birth certificate transcribed into a French birth certificate at The French Consulate, in May 2020 before she was 18 years old, which they acknowledged in May 2020, but the French Consulate did not deal with her application until June 2020 saying that she was now a majeure!! They then said that she needed a certificate of french nationality as her application had gone past her 18th birthday!!
My daughter then sent off her British passport, British Birth certificate, 2 photos, POA, my French birth certificate, my French passport (copy), her mothers British Birth certificate translated, British divorce absolute translated, her parents British wedding certificate (translated) to The Tribunal Judiciare in Paris.
The Tribunal then responded months later and said that they now needed her French Grandmother's and French Great grandparents French birth certificates, her Great grandparents French wedding certificate and also her British grandfathers birth certificate!!
All the above information was sent back to the tribunal except a copy of her grandfathers Barbadian birth certificate which we could not obtain as Barbados is in lockdown. Instead we sent a copy of her Bajan grandfathers British passport expired and a copy of his British Driving Licence showing his date of birth and place of birth. We also sent a copy of her French grandmothers passport and the livret de famille registered at The French Consulate (Londres) in 1985 showing the marriage of her grandparents (my parents) in the UK being recorded!!
The tribunal has given her a CNF number but have not responded to her letter from months ago which was sent international signed for?
She also asked them why her father myself (born in UK to a French mother who has a French passport) did not have to go through all this identification checking when it is proven that, if her father is French from birth then she must be, as she has not denounced any nationality? No response from the Tribunal!!
The question is how long is this process going to take as it has been a year now? It appears to be French people born out of France receive less favourable treatment than French people born in France?
Any ideas please would be most welcome? Thank you
 
#2 ·
I know it sounds horribly trite, but don't take any of this runaround from the Consulate personally. The processing for all sorts of administrative stuff varies greatly in France - from one consulate to the next, as well as from one prefecture or other administrative office to the next. Then, add in periodic changes in the laws - or even just the "rules". And then this pandemic stuff has added yet another layer of delay and confusion.

But because your birth was registered with the consulate, you already have a French birth certificate on file. In your daughter's case, she needed to prove her French nationality which would allow the establishment of her French birth certificate. And yes, there is a tendency for those applying for these things from outside of France to be challenged a bit more than if she already had her French nationality established "in the usual manner" (i.e. if she had been registered at birth with the Consulate).

It's hard to tell how long this will take, given all the variables at the moment - pandemic included. The big difference in your case was that you had a French birth certificate all along. At this point, they really do have to do an "investigation" to make sure that she is entitled to that French citizenship. As long as you have been able to provide all (or most) of the additional documents they have asked for it means that the process is moving along. And one day, when she least expects it, she may just get that CFN.
 
#3 ·
That's really astonishing!
I applied for a CNF for my wife here in a rural dept in France.
At the greffe du palais de justice they just wanted her acte de naissance intégrale, ID card and a utility bill.
I provided birth and mariage certifs of her parents but the greffière waved them away, saying it was all on my wife's birth certif.
She told us she'd phone us to come and pick it up in 2 weeks' time.

Even with lockdown conditions, all admin services are open.
Try phoning the greffe at the tribunal (de grande instance?) ask for the nationality service and be very very patient.

One of my sons was born outside of France and the French consulate service mistranslated him as a girl.
The Paris TGI took two years to rectify his birth certif with "l'interessé est de sexe masculin" scribbled sideways in the margin
 
#14 ·
On the official list (service public.fr) of doc required there's:
Preuve que votre époux était français au jour du mariage et a conservé cette nationalité (certificat de nationalité française ou décision de justice reconnaissant la nationalité française