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#1 ·
Hello There,

I have one confusion regarding the matching of job duties performed by the applicant with the tasks listed in the occupation list.

As per ACS, 65% of your job duties should match with the tasks of occupation code applied.

If I worked in 3 different companies with total exp of 10 yrs. Will ACS compare job duty of each company with the tasks for 65% match, or will ACS check the consolidated job duties over 10 yrs exp and then check against 65% of the tasks listed in occupation code.

Can anybody help here
 
#2 ·
Hello Arbh,

Whenever you submit the Roles and responsibilities along with your educational qualifications transcripts they will match your roles and responsibilities provided for each company with the material they compare against and also your subjects you studied during your bachelors both should have 65% match.

Depending the two factors they would assess the data as ICT Major or ICT Minor following is the text from this url available on ACS site which you might want to read carefully:
https://more.acs.org.au/__data/asse..._data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf


Bachelor Degree or Higher with an ICT Major

ď‚· If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is closely related to your nominated
occupation, you will require 2 years relevant work experience completed within the past 10
years or 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history
(whichever provides the earliest skill date) to meet the suitability criteria.

ď‚· If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is NOT closely related to your
nominated occupation, you will require 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in
your past work history to meet the suitability criteria.

Bachelor Degree or Higher with an ICT Minor


ď‚· If your degree is assessed as having an ICT minor which is closely related to your nominated
occupation, you will require 5 years relevant work experience completed in the past 10 years
or 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history (whichever
provides the earliest skill date) to meet the suitability criteria.

ď‚· If your degree is assessed as having an ICT minor which is NOT closely related to your
nominated occupation, you will require 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in
your past work history to meet the suitability criteria.

Hope this helps
 
#3 ·
you might also want to get a view on the same from other senior members i am just getting started on the process.

Thanks
 
#4 ·
The ACS assessment is a complex process and many members have broken their heads to try to decipher why apparently similar applications are treated differently by ACS.
There is no clear cut formula in even in simple cases, whereas yours is slightly more complicated

Till such time that you get your assessment done, everything else is plain speculation

Don't waste your time waiting for someone to answer conclusively
It is of no use whatsoever in my opinion

Cheers
 
#6 ·
Thanks for reply newbienz. The reason for asking this question is that everyone including me changes various roles starting as fresher, then moving to TL, Manager and so on. Right now I am doing very little technical work and more than 80% is managerial work, hence this doubt.
Anyways, I am in process of following up with previous companies for employee reference, else will proceed with SD.

Can you suggest which english exam is easier / preferred for Australia PR IELTS or PTE ?

Thanks
 
#7 ·
From experience of mY friends and many on the forum PTE should be a better option for the test.
All the best.
 
#11 ·
Hey Scorpion,

Thanks for the response i posted in ACS Processing timelines April 2017 thread on - Page 26 and no body answered so far.
I was since iam in IT BA overseeing QA as well with BE in Electronics and communication it would not be considered as ICT Major because of which i was breaking my head whether to go for skills assessment and let the ACS people ask me for RPL or directly go to RPL and prepare RPL well in advance to be able to apply with other documents.

I have received some experience letter from the companies i was wondering whether you would be able to review them or recommend if any of your friend who applied for BA for the same.

Let me any information which assures that i have everything in place for ACS assessment.

Thanks,
 
#12 ·
Hii Scorpion,

Thanks again ...Following are the questions:
Did you apply on your own or used an agent?

When they say ICT Major do they consider the subjects or roles document or both?
I read the criteria part it says even if we are ICT major and closely related to nominated job code they would deduct 4 which is what u said you did and 4 years was deducted which got you 10 points m i right?

for ASC following documents are enough?
--transcripts (do they have to be recent one's ?)
--Experience letter from the companies on letter head (do they have to be recent one's ?)
--do we need to provide previous company offer letter, salary slips and relieving letter
--Marriage certificate
--Birth certificate
--Passport copies (all pages or only last and first page --do we need to include any visa stamped pages?
--All copies should be notarized right ?
--Any format for Self declaration document?
-- we have to provide a cover letter as well i guess also are there any other documents which i am missing ?

Quiet a few queries but my intent is to understand from you the process you went through so that i can follow the same and convey the message to other applicants who start as we all did.

Thanks again for the help...
 
#13 · (Edited)
1.Transcripts for your entire 4 years of study for your engineering degree. Not just the latest few. If you studied for Masters after Engineering include those as well.
2. Engineering Degree
3. Reference letter from all your employers, past and present.
4.If you cannot get a reference letter then a SD signed by a Manager or supervisory role person at the company. Your colleague issued SD or self declaration is not valid.
You also need a secondary proof if you are submitting a SD.
5. Passport

No other document like your birth or marriage certificate or cover letter are required for ACS Assessment

All documents have to be notarized and then scanned

Cheers
 
#14 ·
Please see the answers inline.


Did you apply on your own or used an agent?
No. I filed on my own.

When they say ICT Major do they consider the subjects or roles document or both?
ICT Major - based on the subjects you studied

I read the criteria part it says even if we are ICT major and closely related to nominated job code they would deduct 4 which is what u said you did and 4 years was deducted which got you 10 points m i right?
Yes

for ASC following documents are enough?
--transcripts (do they have to be recent one's ?)
All the transcripts are needed , probably ACS uses them to assess the % of ICT content you studied.
--Experience letter from the companies on letter head (do they have to be recent one's ?)
Just experience letter that mentions the service dates is not sufficient. You need to have employer reference letter that clearly mentions the roles & responsibilities is needed. For detailed information, Please refer Skills Assessment Guidelines for Applicants.pdf in acs portal.
--do we need to provide previous company offer letter, salary slips and relieving letter
You need Employee reference letter as mentioned above. Rest of the documents are not needed.
--Marriage certificate
Not needed. ACS is the assessment for skills. But if you have your name changed with the spouse name after the marriage, then marriage certificate establishes the same so needed.. Otherwise its not needed.
--Birth certificate
Not needed. Passport is enough for identification & DOB
--Passport copies (all pages or only last and first page --do we need to include any visa stamped pages?
Identification Page (First Page) is enough.
--All copies should be notarized right ?
Yes.
The following information is required on each page of your certified copy:
ď‚· The words Certified True Copy of the Original
ď‚· The signature of the certifying person
ď‚· The name of the certifying person
ď‚· Registration number or title of the certifying person (e.g.: Police Officer, Doctor)
ď‚· Certification details must be legible on the copy and the certification should be dated
--Any format for Self declaration document?
-- we have to provide a cover letter as well i guess also are there any other documents which i am missing ?


ACS application process is fairly simple process if you have all the documents needed. Whatever I mentioned above is from ACS portal. I followed exactly for myself and my spouse and we have been assessed positively. For the matter of fact, all the successful people. For your reference I am attaching the documents from ACS portal as well.

Confidently apply on your own by following each and every guideline they mentioned, I am sure you will be also assessed positively. Good luck!!!
 

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#17 ·
Thanks scorpion,
Thanks for the response and i will do the whole process on my own since we have this common sharing platform for any queries and stuff.

i got your point i need to have following notarized Please correct me if i am wrong.
Passport
transcripts
Experience Letters
And Affidavits for same name (If required)

Currently I have the following:
1.I have done graduation and i have the transcripts (with notary done in 2014 will it be fine? or we need to do it now again?)

2.I think i have to submit a affidavit for using different names ...its like Amar is the given name Akbar is the middle name and Anthony is the Last name so in school and other degree certificate some times they have mentioned the given name suffixed by the other two initials (Amar.A.A) or pre-fixed (A.A.Amar) and i understand that this should be submitted and also mentioned in the form as well wherever required m i right ?

3.Regarding the ICT i check the transcripts and i found following subjects related to IT:
Computer Engineering
Computer Networks
computer programming

Can you check with your transcripts and find out whether there are more or the same number of subjects so that i can go ahead with skill assessment without RPL as you mentioned before.

4.If we have to do the notary again in a fresh way then could you please let me know what other documents i need to notarize lets say after ACS process so that i can get them done all at once.

5. I have the experience letters from the companies which i worked out of 13 i have documents expressing 9.5 years of experience. i was thinking of self declaration but it is not considered these days so i need to get it from a senior manager which i am trying if i get 2.5 or 1year i think i should be getting max points for experience m i right ?

I really need to clarify these points .. i know its lot of effort for you as well but since you have are through the process i think it should be handy information .. i cant thank you enough for all the help.

I just need to know do you have a friend who can help me review the content in the experience letter if you can also do that for me it would be awesome .. i just getting another set of eyes to look at them and tell me whether they help for ICT BA or not .

For my information lets say if the assessment is not positive do they suggest the job code to apply for in the next attempt or how does it work with ACS.


Thanks again to scorpion and everybody who takes time and replies back with valuable information.
Eagerly waiting for response...
 
#15 ·
Can someone please share the template for SD? My current & past employers do not provide an experience letter with roles and responsibilities (confidentiality purposes). So i will need to get SD from a former manager/supervisor.

What other documentation is needed as additional verification if i am submitting SD? I have the regular start end date/ending salary & role for all my previous work experiences but no roles & responsibilities.
 
#16 · (Edited)
ACS Website have given what has to be written in the SD.
Its a simple document in which the person issuing the SD gives :

Name, present designation address contact details etc. (Please ensure that he gives the official email id of the company and not a personal gmail or hotmail id)

Then confirms that he supervised and interacted with you during that period

Then goes on to describe your RNR with your designation location and the period.

Lastly he signs it in front of a Notary who certifies that he has witnessed it.

These are the main points to be mentioned that i remember, but do recheck with the ACS Website,, in case I have missed anything

The Regular Start/end date letter without RNR also is sufficient as supporting proof

Cheers
 
#23 ·
Thanks newbienz.. for the quick reply..

The color docs point i was not aware of it and also for the main degree notarization .. thanks for that ..
 
#29 ·
Yes. In ACS documents you have to upload the notarised copy of the degree certificate also

Cheers
 
#24 ·
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In case job reference letter from existing company not available. In that case statutory delaration will be required. So my question as I am from Ghaziabad Uttar Pradesh India. So is it necessary to get it notarised on estamp or traditional non judicial stamp will work because in Ghaziabad checked 100 rs estamp is not available.so any help on it will be greatly appreciated
 
#26 ·
Traditional non-judicial stamp is fine.