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Hi there, my young family and I (5 of us) are looking to relocate to Canada from the U.K and were initially thinking of the Toronto area but we would like some general info on the place from people who know it better than we do.

Job wise what is the potential for careers in care (with people who have disabilities etc) and mentoring in specialist education such as behavioural units?

What are the nicer areas and their affordability and what are the areas to avoid? We are also considering Hamilton.

Thanks in advance for any help!
 

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Hi there, my young family and I (5 of us) are looking to relocate to Canada from the U.K and were initially thinking of the Toronto area but we would like some general info on the place from people who know it better than we do.

Job wise what is the potential for careers in care (with people who have disabilities etc) and mentoring in specialist education such as behavioural units?

What are the nicer areas and their affordability and what are the areas to avoid? We are also considering Hamilton.

Thanks in advance for any help!
What professional qualifications are held for these two job streams.
Imigration to Canada is very much employment driven. One of the parents in a family needs to have an occupation on THE LIST of 29 considered to be of need to Canada. Otherwise he/she need to arrange pre-employment before applying. That is not easy to do from overseas
 

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What professional qualifications are held for these two job streams.
Imigration to Canada is very much employment driven. One of the parents in a family needs to have an occupation on THE LIST of 29 considered to be of need to Canada. Otherwise he/she need to arrange pre-employment before applying. That is not easy to do from overseas
Auld Yin has covered the immigration, I have nothing to addl. To answer more questions from your OP, Toronto and the GTA have lots of nice areas that are affordable, depending on your budget and requirements... Which leads to my next question, what is your budget and requirements for housing? I can direct you better with this info.
 

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What professional qualifications are held for these two job streams.
Imigration to Canada is very much employment driven. One of the parents in a family needs to have an occupation on THE LIST of 29 considered to be of need to Canada. Otherwise he/she need to arrange pre-employment before applying. That is not easy to do from overseas
Hi I myself am the manager of the Centre and have an NVQ level 4 in Health and Social Care which is equiv to a diploma and my wife has a NVQ level 3 in Advice and Guidance which is equiv to three A levels! If we cant come to Canada on the work skills programme could you recommend anther way? thank you for your response.
 

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Auld Yin has covered the immigration, I have nothing to addl. To answer more questions from your OP, Toronto and the GTA have lots of nice areas that are affordable, depending on your budget and requirements... Which leads to my next question, what is your budget and requirements for housing? I can direct you better with this info.
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We would require 3- bedrooms and would be looking to rent to begin with, our budget at the moment would be around 950 Dollars a month.
 

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We would require 3- bedrooms and would be looking to rent to begin with, our budget at the moment would be around 950 Dollars a month.
You won't be renting a 3-4 bedroom in Toronto for $950/month. Not even a 2 bedroom, unless it's a basement apartment. 3-4 bedroom think at least $1800+ plus utilities/cable/internet.
 

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Hi I myself am the manager of the Centre and have an NVQ level 4 in Health and Social Care which is equiv to a diploma and my wife has a NVQ level 3 in Advice and Guidance which is equiv to three A levels! If we cant come to Canada on the work skills programme could you recommend anther way? thank you for your response.
Don't think either of you qualify for anything on The List, I could be wrong, look for yourself; unless it falls under Nursing (but that is cap met, no guarantees it will be available next time the list is refreshed).

You will need an offer of employment with the employer having successfully applied for a Labour Market Option (LMO) to employ you from overseas, this is usually quite tough to get, especially from out of country.
 

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Don't think either of you qualify for anything on The List, I could be wrong, look for yourself; unless it falls under Nursing (but that is cap met, no guarantees it will be available next time the list is refreshed).

You will need an offer of employment with the employer having successfully applied for a Labour Market Option (LMO) to employ you from overseas, this is usually quite tough to get, especially from out of country.
Ok well the qualifications throw a spanner in the works! do you know when the list refreshes? from what i can see it runs till june2012. Guess one of us will have to look into retraining in another area
 

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HRSDC site said under employment experience:
Completion of a three-year apprenticeship program for cooks
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Completion of college or other program in cooking
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Several years of commercial cooking experience are required.

That said, on January 31, 2012, Human Resources and Skills Development Canada (HRSDC) and Statistics Canada replaced the 2006 edition of the National Occupation Classification (NOC) with a 2011 version. For the purposes of the Federal Skilled Worker Program list of eligible occupations, new applicants are advised to refer to the HRSDC website for the latest job descriptions and duties for each NOC.

For applying PR in FSW category, the job should be under either Skills 0, A, or B, irrespective of FSW1 or FSW2.

Skill Levels are defined by NOC (explained below)
Skill 0 - NOC starting with 0
Skill A - NOC starting other than 0 but has 1 as second digit (eg 4156, 6178, etc)
Skill B - NOC starting other than 0 but has 2 as second digit (eg 4256, 6278 etc)

Cook is now NOC 6322.

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Occupations.aspx?val=6
 

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HRSDC site said under employment experience:
Completion of a three-year apprenticeship program for cooks
or
Completion of college or other program in cooking
or
Several years of commercial cooking experience are required.

That said, on January 31, 2012, Human Resources and Skills Development Canada (HRSDC) and Statistics Canada replaced the 2006 edition of the National Occupation Classification (NOC) with a 2011 version. For the purposes of the Federal Skilled Worker Program list of eligible occupations, new applicants are advised to refer to the HRSDC website for the latest job descriptions and duties for each NOC.

For applying PR in FSW category, the job should be under either Skills 0, A, or B, irrespective of FSW1 or FSW2.

Skill Levels are defined by NOC (explained below)
Skill 0 - NOC starting with 0
Skill A - NOC starting other than 0 but has 1 as second digit (eg 4156, 6178, etc)
Skill B - NOC starting other than 0 but has 2 as second digit (eg 4256, 6278 etc)

Cook is now NOC 6322.

Detailed Occupational Structure
Thanks thants great!

I am thinking that i could go through the cook occupation as they have a dietary cook listed and as a Manager of a Health Care establishment i am responsible for implenting dietary plans for the residents, the only thing is although i have my Health and Social Care qualification which is infact equiv to a degree not a dipolma, i may still have to do some kind of college course that has nutrition, dieticion elements to it. Do you think that would be a route for us??
 

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Thanks thants great!

I am thinking that i could go through the cook occupation as they have a dietary cook listed and as a Manager of a Health Care establishment i am responsible for implenting dietary plans for the residents, the only thing is although i have my Health and Social Care qualification which is infact equiv to a degree not a dipolma, i may still have to do some kind of college course that has nutrition, dieticion elements to it. Do you think that would be a route for us??
First, unless you are doing the cooking, I don't think you would have had a chance simply as an "implementer" of menus.

Bigger than that, what you didn't seem to catch from my previous post, was that the latest HRSDC realignment moves Cook out of the FSW category for PR unless you applied before Feb 1, 2012.
 

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First, unless you are doing the cooking, I don't think you would have had a chance simply as an "implementer" of menus.

Bigger than that, what you didn't seem to catch from my previous post, was that the latest HRSDC realignment moves Cook out of the FSW category for PR unless you applied before Feb 1, 2012.
Ok well i havent actually had time to check out the website you posted as i only quickly logged on before going to bed and then have been at work first thing this morning, so will have a look now and see what i can make of it.
 

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First, unless you are doing the cooking, I don't think you would have had a chance simply as an "implementer" of menus.

Bigger than that, what you didn't seem to catch from my previous post, was that the latest HRSDC realignment moves Cook out of the FSW category for PR unless you applied before Feb 1, 2012.
Hi i have checked out the website and some other forums and from what i can see it is still very unclear not just to myself but also to many others, as to whether or not the cook role is included as a fsw job. Have you read that it is no longer in the top 29 NOC list?? as i have seen that it is still showing and the only thing that has changed is the code??

Also some of my duties include preparing and cooking food for the service users aswell as implementing dietary care plans.

Thank you again for your response
 

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Not sure about careers in care but I am currently aware of an opportunity in both Canada and the UK with a 32 year old network marketing company. It may be something you could start in the UK and continue with in Canada.
 

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Not sure about careers in care but I am currently aware of an opportunity in both Canada and the UK with a 32 year old network marketing company. It may be something you could start in the UK and continue with in Canada.
Hi could you give me some more information please

Thank you
 

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Sure! It's a 32 year old health and wellness company that has all Swiss formulated botanically based products that are vegan and gluten-free. My partner actually launched the UK's division 3 years ago and has a team in Canada that is growing very quickly. If you like I could give you her contact information.
 
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