Are any of you using a water filtering system for your well or city service? I'd like to run my deep well water through a filtering system of some type before using it for household purposes. I won't be using it for drinking. If using a water filtering system, your positives and negatives of your system. Also, filter and maintenance costs. Thanks
kmgeis
I think my usual Makati hotel uses unfiltered city water. I only use this water for showering.
I buy absolute distilled water for drinking, brushing teeth.
For cleaning dishes I spray 70% or 90% alcohol on them, then wipe with Kleenex.
The hotel room has sign over the sink saying the water is not potable. I never use the sink.
I buy absolute distilled water for drinking, brushing teeth.
For cleaning dishes I spray 70% or 90% alcohol on them, then wipe with Kleenex.
The hotel room has sign over the sink saying the water is not potable. I never use the sink.
Everyone I know has a way to deal with the water issue. In my town people use either city water or well water for bathing and cleaning dishes. The dishes are always dry before using. So far I have been ok with this method. everyone needs to find their level of risk.
They drink bottled water or the blue containers from the water filter places.
If tap water is used it has to be boiled like for cooking or coffee.
I have my own personal filtering machine that cleans the tap water for me to drink.
Considering the water sources I would never drink the water and the society is based on supplying cheap drinking water to everyone. I only met one guy who had a system setup to supply clean water to his whole house. But I had little faith in the cleanliness of his house pipes. Just cleaning the will not fix the storage and delivery without adding chemicals. So is it worth the expense if not for drinking. You can have your deep well tested to see how bad it is.
Also remember to make sure all ice you use is made with mineral water. That is the term they use for water used fir ice cubes. Typically the water purifying places also sell ice.
They drink bottled water or the blue containers from the water filter places.
If tap water is used it has to be boiled like for cooking or coffee.
I have my own personal filtering machine that cleans the tap water for me to drink.
Considering the water sources I would never drink the water and the society is based on supplying cheap drinking water to everyone. I only met one guy who had a system setup to supply clean water to his whole house. But I had little faith in the cleanliness of his house pipes. Just cleaning the will not fix the storage and delivery without adding chemicals. So is it worth the expense if not for drinking. You can have your deep well tested to see how bad it is.
Also remember to make sure all ice you use is made with mineral water. That is the term they use for water used fir ice cubes. Typically the water purifying places also sell ice.
@kmgeis
This topic has been discussed here many times over the years and all have their own opinions and methods.
We are on a deep well and the first thing we did when we moved here 7 years ago was have the water tested by a laboratory, the one that our local filling station uses for their monthly health testing.
There were about 14 different analyses that I asked the lab to perform ranging from most importantly E-coli and Coliform bacteria through to different metal and salt contents, all bar the salt level came in under the WHO safe recommendations and the salt level was only marginally higher than normal,,,,, probably because the well is around 120 metres from the ocean but fed underground from the mountains behind us.
From memory our water test cost a little under P4K
I did look at a treatment plant to run the house prior to us moving here but once we had the water tested we didn't bother as it was going to cost around P120K plus the ongoing maintenance and replacement filter costs, UV globes etc. There are much cheaper systems available for single point usage that might be worth considering. For us we simply have our blue and round bottles refilled at 25 pesos each, we have a refrigerated/heated water dispenser in the dining room for us and guests and a blue container on the kitchen bench for the kettle, cooking, ice making etc.
The well water we use for dishes, laundry, bathrooms and gardens, we use the well water for brushing teeth and we are all still fit well and healthy.
Our local water refill station is also a very large sari store as in walk in and select the things you need, we always take 3 to 4 water bottles and buy many other needs as required, fizzy drinks, alcohol, LPG, snacks, some pantry products etc.
I just saw your latest post Km. Can I ask? is it a well or a bore? was it drilled deep enough? What is the water delivery per minute? Yes you should have it tested with a reputable lab that handles water all the time and can be found simply by asking one or 2 of your refill stations, if they are licensed it is mandatory for them the be inspected and tested every 3/4 weeks, they will point you in the right direction.
Good luck.
Cheers, Steve.
This topic has been discussed here many times over the years and all have their own opinions and methods.
We are on a deep well and the first thing we did when we moved here 7 years ago was have the water tested by a laboratory, the one that our local filling station uses for their monthly health testing.
There were about 14 different analyses that I asked the lab to perform ranging from most importantly E-coli and Coliform bacteria through to different metal and salt contents, all bar the salt level came in under the WHO safe recommendations and the salt level was only marginally higher than normal,,,,, probably because the well is around 120 metres from the ocean but fed underground from the mountains behind us.
From memory our water test cost a little under P4K
I did look at a treatment plant to run the house prior to us moving here but once we had the water tested we didn't bother as it was going to cost around P120K plus the ongoing maintenance and replacement filter costs, UV globes etc. There are much cheaper systems available for single point usage that might be worth considering. For us we simply have our blue and round bottles refilled at 25 pesos each, we have a refrigerated/heated water dispenser in the dining room for us and guests and a blue container on the kitchen bench for the kettle, cooking, ice making etc.
The well water we use for dishes, laundry, bathrooms and gardens, we use the well water for brushing teeth and we are all still fit well and healthy.
Our local water refill station is also a very large sari store as in walk in and select the things you need, we always take 3 to 4 water bottles and buy many other needs as required, fizzy drinks, alcohol, LPG, snacks, some pantry products etc.
I just saw your latest post Km. Can I ask? is it a well or a bore? was it drilled deep enough? What is the water delivery per minute? Yes you should have it tested with a reputable lab that handles water all the time and can be found simply by asking one or 2 of your refill stations, if they are licensed it is mandatory for them the be inspected and tested every 3/4 weeks, they will point you in the right direction.
Good luck.
Cheers, Steve.
Our deep well, not so deep but we live next to the lake or Laguna de Bay and there's no filtration, we do cook, bath and wash dishes with it.
Steve, it was hand or manual drilled, and cased. I asked for minimum of 80 feet or until good water. The driller told me the water was good at 60 feet, I asked him to go to 80 feet for assurance. We've ran the electrical pump for long spells of time flushing out the well with plenty of water flowing in. I couldn't tell you what the delivery rate is going into the well. The pump is probably pumping 10+ gallons per minute. The driller thinks the water well will clean-up itself. The water has a bit of a rust smell to it. Maybe that's natural for the ground water here. I come from the Rocky Mountain Range in the USA where the mountain water is very clear and tasteless, and maybe my expectations are too high for this water well...
@kmgeis
LOL. Yeah we all have expectations in life. First cab off the rank is to have your bore tested, as said a full suite as we did, ask for all the mineral tests as well as E-coli and fecal coliform. go for iron, lead, cadmium, arsenic etc. The rust smell is interesting, if you have a lot of iron oxides down there then further problems could arise, we had one bore over 200ft deep that gave around 150 litres a minute and was perfect in every way except for the iron content which can lead to an algae blocking the lower casings intake, I forget the name but every 2 years we had to set up a 1,000 litre tank next to the bore, replumb the lines, pour 40 or 50 litres of a special chemical into the tank and again I forgot its name (old timers) and recirculate/surge the bore for 3 or 4 days to kill the algae, then it was perfect for another couple of years but a pain to accomplish.
Your driller may be correct that it will clean itself up but in the mean time get it tested so you know what you are delivering to your house.
Again good luck.
Cheers, Steve.
LOL. Yeah we all have expectations in life. First cab off the rank is to have your bore tested, as said a full suite as we did, ask for all the mineral tests as well as E-coli and fecal coliform. go for iron, lead, cadmium, arsenic etc. The rust smell is interesting, if you have a lot of iron oxides down there then further problems could arise, we had one bore over 200ft deep that gave around 150 litres a minute and was perfect in every way except for the iron content which can lead to an algae blocking the lower casings intake, I forget the name but every 2 years we had to set up a 1,000 litre tank next to the bore, replumb the lines, pour 40 or 50 litres of a special chemical into the tank and again I forgot its name (old timers) and recirculate/surge the bore for 3 or 4 days to kill the algae, then it was perfect for another couple of years but a pain to accomplish.
Your driller may be correct that it will clean itself up but in the mean time get it tested so you know what you are delivering to your house.
Again good luck.
Cheers, Steve.
Maybe I have a cast iron guts, Ben also and even our caretaker/gardener. Our clothes, dishes, bathing and teeth are done in cold well water (showers have water heaters if desired).
Fast food, restaurants both food and drinks with ice never a problem and I've been knocking around here for near 15 years, living with well water for near 7 of those years but here simply buy the bottled water from the refill station for drinking and ice, kettle, cooking the same. We go through 3 to 4 bottles a week so less than 2 bucks a week. I have stood outside our refill station waiting for our refills and see they wash the bottles, fill them and seal with yet more plastic, they all wear face masks and looks meticulously clean,,,,,, like a laboratory. They have to as they are inspected every 3 to 4 weeks randomly and seriously want to keep their accreditation and license to operate.
Our well water may not be perfect but it's working and none of us have grown an extra head. Wells and bores should be tested as who wants an overload of lead or carcinogenic crap? I would even suggest that a municipal supply should be tested as we are in a third world country.
Cheers, Steve
Fast food, restaurants both food and drinks with ice never a problem and I've been knocking around here for near 15 years, living with well water for near 7 of those years but here simply buy the bottled water from the refill station for drinking and ice, kettle, cooking the same. We go through 3 to 4 bottles a week so less than 2 bucks a week. I have stood outside our refill station waiting for our refills and see they wash the bottles, fill them and seal with yet more plastic, they all wear face masks and looks meticulously clean,,,,,, like a laboratory. They have to as they are inspected every 3 to 4 weeks randomly and seriously want to keep their accreditation and license to operate.
Our well water may not be perfect but it's working and none of us have grown an extra head. Wells and bores should be tested as who wants an overload of lead or carcinogenic crap? I would even suggest that a municipal supply should be tested as we are in a third world country.
Cheers, Steve
We have had a couple of well about 80' deep and the water was always brown. We moved to an old borehole on the grandfather's land, must be a good couple a hundred feet deep. Trying to whole house filter is asking for grief. I recently put a gravel filter on it and it blocked in two days. For drinking water we use a three stage filter under the sink.
We have subdivision supplied water from a poorly sealed well so it is dirty after a rain. We also have a standby well, properly sealed of our own. We primarily use the subdivision water. We use the blue filters, copies of the Pentair filters. 10" 20mu before the softener. Another 10" before 1000l tank because we have a rain water tie in. From the tank to 20" 10mu, 5mu, 1mu and last 20" uv sterilizer. Replace the first 20mu filter every 60 days, the rest every 6 months. Replaced the uv lamp once in 6 years. Water was tested and it's pure as angel pee. We don't use bottled water.
LOL QE. Perhaps we could meet your angels?
We must be lucky with the well installed here by the original owner, about 20 ft deep through the sand to God knows what. 3 ft diameter concrete rings and through the dry season always has 3 to 4 ft of water and in the wet, like now can be 10 to 12 ft of water. The Canadian guy we purchased from told us it was fed from the hills and mountains behind us as it's above sea level by a few ft where the water is though still a little high in salt content but always crystal clear and never run out of water.
We do buy the bottled water and let them do all the filter replacements and grafting. As said lucky here and their water is cheap and safe to drink.
Cheers, Steve.
We must be lucky with the well installed here by the original owner, about 20 ft deep through the sand to God knows what. 3 ft diameter concrete rings and through the dry season always has 3 to 4 ft of water and in the wet, like now can be 10 to 12 ft of water. The Canadian guy we purchased from told us it was fed from the hills and mountains behind us as it's above sea level by a few ft where the water is though still a little high in salt content but always crystal clear and never run out of water.
We do buy the bottled water and let them do all the filter replacements and grafting. As said lucky here and their water is cheap and safe to drink.
Cheers, Steve.
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Pretty much yes. SBMA chlorinate their water. Having not drunk chlorinated water for some time it comes as a bit of a shock.
Well heck, where I live you still have to go to the public water discharge areas with your water cans and pack it back home. There's no public utilities such as running water and sewage services to the publics houses. If we're getting heavy rain it shows up as cloudy brown water at the public watering stations. Take it or leave it are your two options.
@Quezon Expat
I would question your synopsis of water and sewer lines in the same trench, generally sewer lines (town planning) are 2/3 ft below water main supplies. Aside both would need to be inactive and both have issues in the same location and both have fractures/leaks in the same location and the water mains is turned off. Even at the same levels with a water mains running at 1 or 2 PSI the sewer leak won't get into a water supply given static pressures (hydrology) but the reverse is possible for mains water to enter a sewer line running on flow in the same locale.
Fecal Coliforms and E-coli are microbial and don't present in water colour nor do heavy metals. Colloids do in the form of super fine clays.
To KM, like us living in the provinces we are in control of our water and septic systems.
Howard mentioned not using the kitchen sink because of a sign saying not potable in his apartment yet showers in the same water.
OMO.
Cheers, Steve.
I would question your synopsis of water and sewer lines in the same trench, generally sewer lines (town planning) are 2/3 ft below water main supplies. Aside both would need to be inactive and both have issues in the same location and both have fractures/leaks in the same location and the water mains is turned off. Even at the same levels with a water mains running at 1 or 2 PSI the sewer leak won't get into a water supply given static pressures (hydrology) but the reverse is possible for mains water to enter a sewer line running on flow in the same locale.
Fecal Coliforms and E-coli are microbial and don't present in water colour nor do heavy metals. Colloids do in the form of super fine clays.
To KM, like us living in the provinces we are in control of our water and septic systems.
Howard mentioned not using the kitchen sink because of a sign saying not potable in his apartment yet showers in the same water.
OMO.
Cheers, Steve.
We have no sewer lines just pozi ******. If the hand pump was as often in amongst the house the water would become contaminated.
We use a 3 in 1 filter system called Megafresh that we bought in Ace Hardware. 3 filters. The hardware stores all have similar stuff. Screws onto kitchen fawcet. Works great! The filters are sold separately and are fairly cheap. The filter you'd replace the most costs less than a hundred pesos. The other 2 cost well under 1000 pesos combined and get replaced semi annually, if needed. Replace as needed. Our out-of-the-fawcet water is clean, but we use the filters for drinking and cooking water, just to be safe.
I change our filters occasionally, a filter doesn't degrade it blocks, so if the flow rate is lagging, time to change them. The first filter is usually washable so give it a scrub now and again.
@boracaypat
Does your system come with UV sterilisation? If so great but without? Bacteria will get through even a half micron filter, no UV you still get E-coli and coliform bacteria from that outlet.
If it works then stick with it.
Cheers, Steve.
Does your system come with UV sterilisation? If so great but without? Bacteria will get through even a half micron filter, no UV you still get E-coli and coliform bacteria from that outlet.
If it works then stick with it.
Cheers, Steve.
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Sorry Howard but as a licensed Plumber and dealing with H2o and waste water for 50 years, treatment plants and filtration systems for over 20 years I am not incorrect nor do I simply post links that won't open and are probably not researched or plenty of bias from the company selling their wares
I have run and set up RO plants around the world and they don't need UV irradiation but require a heck of a lot of electrify to run them as well as maintenance of the membranes and great when dealing water out to thousands of people, they work but expensive to set up and run.
Cheaper methods exist and I have installed dozens of them, monitored and maintained 5 of them on our regular filming site in the back blocks for 15 years. A 3 filter system, first @ 20 microns to remove heavy material and heavier clays. Second @ 5 microns to remove finer colloidal particles and finally a .5 to 1 micron carbon activated filter for the balance. Guess what Howard bacterium even makes its way through that system and needs UV irradiation to kill the pathogens.
I am not a novice Howard.
Heavy metals are a problem and decent water sources needs a laboratory for analysis and not once but constantly. I have dealt with bores and wells that can't supply safe and treatable water.
We did have one bore in Australia that delivered H2o better than bottled water, one case in the Philippines the water that everyone was using in the area was crap and simply set up an RO plant taking water from an estuary that was very brackish/salty at great expense to supply a film crew with safe potable water.
Mentioned here many times that we simply use our well water that we had tested 7 years ago and no need for expensive filtration systems, we are all still alive but we do purchase the water from the filling station that is super cheap and they do all the grafting and we drink it.
OMO.
Cheers, Steve.
I have run and set up RO plants around the world and they don't need UV irradiation but require a heck of a lot of electrify to run them as well as maintenance of the membranes and great when dealing water out to thousands of people, they work but expensive to set up and run.
Cheaper methods exist and I have installed dozens of them, monitored and maintained 5 of them on our regular filming site in the back blocks for 15 years. A 3 filter system, first @ 20 microns to remove heavy material and heavier clays. Second @ 5 microns to remove finer colloidal particles and finally a .5 to 1 micron carbon activated filter for the balance. Guess what Howard bacterium even makes its way through that system and needs UV irradiation to kill the pathogens.
I am not a novice Howard.
Heavy metals are a problem and decent water sources needs a laboratory for analysis and not once but constantly. I have dealt with bores and wells that can't supply safe and treatable water.
We did have one bore in Australia that delivered H2o better than bottled water, one case in the Philippines the water that everyone was using in the area was crap and simply set up an RO plant taking water from an estuary that was very brackish/salty at great expense to supply a film crew with safe potable water.
Mentioned here many times that we simply use our well water that we had tested 7 years ago and no need for expensive filtration systems, we are all still alive but we do purchase the water from the filling station that is super cheap and they do all the grafting and we drink it.
OMO.
Cheers, Steve.
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