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New to the forum so be gentle with me!
My husband has got a job in Spain so we are moving out in April this yer - very excited!
My question relates to voting rights - if we both become Spanish residents do we both lose the right to vote in UK elections? Do we gain the right to vote in Spanish general elections?
We were thinking about keeping one of us resident in UK and one resident in Spain so that we still have voting etc. rights in UK - has anyone else done this?

Thanks for any help
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Hi
New to the forum so be gentle with me!
My husband has got a job in Spain so we are moving out in April this yer - very excited!
My question relates to voting rights - if we both become Spanish residents do we both lose the right to vote in UK elections? Do we gain the right to vote in Spanish general elections?
We were thinking about keeping one of us resident in UK and one resident in Spain so that we still have voting etc. rights in UK - has anyone else done this?

Thanks for any help
Shee
Hi!

Hope you enjoy using and being a member of the forum.

You can vote in local and European elections in Spain, and I think you can vote in the UK too. Look at this link from the FCO which has info from both countries.

Voting in Spain

PS Why do a lot of new members say "be gentle with me" or similar? What do they think we're going to do with them???!!!
 

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Hi
New to the forum so be gentle with me!
My husband has got a job in Spain so we are moving out in April this yer - very excited!
My question relates to voting rights - if we both become Spanish residents do we both lose the right to vote in UK elections? Do we gain the right to vote in Spanish general elections?
We were thinking about keeping one of us resident in UK and one resident in Spain so that we still have voting etc. rights in UK - has anyone else done this?

Thanks for any help
Shee
Hi, Shee & welcome. You retain the right to vote in UK general elections for 15 years after leaving. If you become a Spanish resident you will receive a form from the local council asking if you want to register for EC voting rights. If you do you cannot then vote in EC elections in the UK. You can't vote in Spanish general elections unless you become a Spanish citizen. Hope you enjoy it when you arrive.
 

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To keep the right to vote in UK elections you need to apply for inclusion on the Electoral Register in the Constituency where you were last enrolled. If I remember correctly, we wrote for the appropriate form to the Returning Officer of the District Council where we last lived in the UK.
You then have to get your completed application signed by a UK Passport holding resident of the country to which you have relocated.
 

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Im not sure where the "IF" comes into it.

If you move to Spain then you have absolutely no choice but to register as a resident here, its the law here. By not doing so, you will be at risk.

And of course by registering here you are no longer a UK resident and lose your entitlement to UK health care and most benefits

You will no longer be allowed to vote in local elections in the UK, although you will be allowed to vote in General elections much as Gus says

Keeping one of you as a resident in the UK I am afraid is not a legal option in your circumstances.
 

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Im not sure where the "IF" comes into it.

If you move to Spain then you have absolutely no choice but to register as a resident here, its the law here. By not doing so, you will be at risk.

And of course by registering here you are no longer a UK resident and lose your entitlement to UK health care and most benefits

You will no longer be allowed to vote in local elections in the UK, although you will be allowed to vote in General elections much as Gus says

Keeping one of you as a resident in the UK I am afraid is not a legal option in your circumstances.
What if you are resident in Spain for part of the year, have Residencia but also have a UK address and are on the UK electoral register?
I'm not sure but I think my son and daughter-in-law are in that situation, apart from being on the padron, which I thought was where your voting entitlement comes from. They have property here, spend a lot of time here but are mainly UK based.
 

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What if you are resident in Spain for part of the year, have Residencia but also have a UK address and are on the UK electoral register?
I'm not sure but I think my son and daughter-in-law are in that situation, apart from being on the padron, which I thought was where your voting entitlement comes from. They have property here, spend a lot of time here but are mainly UK based.

Actually, I'm the same. I rarely go back to the UK, but nonetheless I have a house there

Jo xxx
 

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But are you on your local electoral register?
In England??? I guess so. I dont know if they've sent the new form thingy out, but if they havent yet then yes!????? and if they do, I might as well put my name on it?? Or is that illegal if I'm residencia in Spain


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In England??? I guess so. I dont know if they've sent the new form thingy out, but if they havent yet then yes!????? and if they do, I might as well put my name on it?? Or is that illegal if I'm residencia in Spain


Jo xxx
That's what I was wondering. If it's illegal, what would the crime be?

Vote-stealing????;)

or

Improperly influencing the outcome of a democratic process???;)
That sounds posher..........
 

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That's what I was wondering. If it's illegal, what would the crime be?

Vote-stealing????;)

or

Improperly influencing the outcome of a democratic process???;)
That sounds posher..........
I'm sure that its allowed, afterall like it or not, we're still UK citizens with UK passports etc. In fact given the choice I think its more important to vote in the UK since thats where my income comes from - altho I'm not sure there's anyone worth voting for - they're all just varying shades of grey!!!!!!

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I'm sure that its allowed, afterall like it or not, we're still UK citizens with UK passports etc. In fact given the choice I think its more important to vote in the UK since thats where my income comes from - altho I'm not sure there's anyone worth voting for - they're all just varying shades of grey!!!!!!

Jo xxx
I don't see how anyone could check if you voted in two places anyway.
Like you, I couldn't be bothered to vote and didn't reapply for an overseas vote.
After being intensely politically involved for most of my life since Uni I am now interested only in a remote, objective kind of way.
 

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I'm sure that its allowed, afterall like it or not, we're still UK citizens with UK passports etc. In fact given the choice I think its more important to vote in the UK since thats where my income comes from - altho I'm not sure there's anyone worth voting for - they're all just varying shades of grey!!!!!!

Jo xxx
I see your point, but I do find it a bit wierd that you can have been living abroad for ages, yet can still vote in the UK. If I was living the UK I would be outraged that someone like me could vote there.
However I would like to be able to vote here and that's one of the reasons that I'll be trying to get Spanish nationality this year. Then I won't be able to come on here cos I won't be British anymore!!
 

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I see your point, but I do find it a bit wierd that you can have been living abroad for ages, yet can still vote in the UK. If I was living the UK I would be outraged that someone like me could vote there.
However I would like to be able to vote here and that's one of the reasons that I'll be trying to get Spanish nationality this year. Then I won't be able to come on here cos I won't be British anymore!!
yes, we'd have to ban you immediately PW!!!!!!! (as if :rolleyes::rolleyes: lol) I know what you're saying and its right for you. Whether I'm right or wrong tho, my income comes from the UK, I won a house there, I have children who are British - so in many ways we're inextricably linked to the UK and I still like to have some say. Maybe once we get more established here, I wont care what happens over there so much

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This whole voting thing is interesting and would actually be of serious concern if just a few votes very often made any difference.

But on principal I have a problem with close to full time residents in Spain voting in national and local UK elections. If not on democratic grounds then because the issues are discussed locally and a non resident cannot be uptodate with or view local issues as a resident. Further they are more likely to vote for short term disruption and long term gain.

But I have a bigger problem when the candidate doesn't live in the constituency :mad:

As for Europe if I voted in Spain I might be tempted to vote for the worst economic policies that might lead to the devaluation of the Euro. Just at the moment I'd be spoilt for choice - bit like the UK and the pound :D
 

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yes, we'd have to ban you immediately PW!!!!!!! (as if :rolleyes::rolleyes: lol) I know what you're saying and its right for you. Whether I'm right or wrong tho, my income comes from the UK, I won a house there, I have children who are British - so in many ways we're inextricably linked to the UK and I still like to have some say. Maybe once we get more established here, I wont care what happens over there so much

Jo xxxx
Oh yes, I agree with you Jo, but I think you know what I mean too. But I also think people have to know when to say enough is enough.
BTW - won a house!???
 

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This whole voting thing is interesting and would actually be of serious concern if just a few votes very often made any difference.

But on principal I have a problem with close to full time residents in Spain voting in national and local UK elections. If not on democratic grounds then because the issues are discussed locally and a non resident cannot be uptodate with or view local issues as a resident. Further they are more likely to vote for short term disruption and long term gain.

But I have a bigger problem when the candidate doesn't live in the constituency :mad:

As for Europe if I voted in Spain I might be tempted to vote for the worst economic policies that might lead to the devaluation of the Euro. Just at the moment I'd be spoilt for choice - bit like the UK and the pound :D
But what if you are resident here but pay a substantial amount of UK tax on earned and investment income? Surely you should have some influence over how your money is spent?
In a time where the actions of any Government are dictated largely by the global market, voting is a farce anyway.
Like you, I'd vote for lower taxes, a stronger £ and incredibly high interest rates.
I'm sick of subsidising the debts of those who took out loans and mortgages beyond their means.
When an investment of £100k returns you around £800 p.a. before tax at the current rate, what's the point in saving?
 

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What if you are resident in Spain for part of the year, have Residencia but also have a UK address and are on the UK electoral register?
I'm not sure but I think my son and daughter-in-law are in that situation, apart from being on the padron, which I thought was where your voting entitlement comes from. They have property here, spend a lot of time here but are mainly UK based.

You're not a British resident any more though. I have a UK home as well, but I'm a Spanish resident. therefore I cant vote in local elections there.

Your son, I'm not sure how long they live here for though.
 

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But what if you are resident here but pay a substantial amount of UK tax on earned and investment income? Surely you should have some influence over how your money is spent?
You shouldnt be paying tax on investment income in the UK if you are a Spanish resident.

This is the whole point. You should be paying your tax here in Spain!
 

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You will no longer be allowed to vote in local elections in the UK, although you will be allowed to vote in General elections much as Gus says
Voting in UK general elections stops after fifteen years. I lost my right to do so......some years back!

Also, the only practical method is to vote by proxy -- the paperwork will reach you after the election if you try to vote by mail.
 
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