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People wonder why I'm so negative about Brits over here.....well they need to walk a mile in my shoes!

I've been here since Nov 2005, and besides the first four months where we were looking for somewhere to live....I've been working. Every day.....usually all day.

I haven't had the time to have any formal instruction in Spanish.....because I spend all my time earning a living. But I have to speak Spanish every day just to be able to survive.....so a little bit of research along with continual speaking and listening....and I get by.
If people ask me do I speak Spanish....I just say a little. And I leave it that.

On accasions I've helped one or two good friends out with personal business....but that's it. However, over the past few months I've had more and more calls from shops that I go to.....where I know the owners.
And on every occasion it's because some monosyllabic, ****** Brit is kicking off in their shop. Having a tantrum because they can't get what they want.....when they want....and the shopkeepers don't know WTF is going on. So I either have to go to the shop and help out the Spaniards or placate the Brit ****** on the phone.

This week I had two calls from two different shops on the same morning about the same Brit humanoid. Went to two shops and kicked off in both.

These people make me sick.....they come to rural inland Spain and think they're going to get the same level of choice as they would in Milton Keynes shopping mall.

I'm trying to make a living here and I keep getting caught up in the messes that these losers create. I do it, not to help them, but to help the local Spanish.....and hopefully try to repair the damage that they do to all our reputations in the community.

Moral of the story? Do not go to a rural part of Spain unless you are able to speak a reasonable degree of Spanish already, and do not go to rural areas if you're used to living in big cities.

If you do.....you will fail miserably. And in the process you'll make a [email protected] of yourself......and destroy any good Brit-Spanish relations that may exist.
 

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People wonder why I'm so negative about Brits over here.....well they need to walk a mile in my shoes!

I've been here since Nov 2005, and besides the first four months where we were looking for somewhere to live....I've been working. Every day.....usually all day.

I haven't had the time to have any formal instruction in Spanish.....because I spend all my time earning a living. But I have to speak Spanish every day just to be able to survive.....so a little bit of research along with continual speaking and listening....and I get by.
If people ask me do I speak Spanish....I just say a little. And I leave it that.

On accasions I've helped one or two good friends out with personal business....but that's it. However, over the past few months I've had more and more calls from shops that I go to.....where I know the owners.
And on every occasion it's because some monosyllabic, ****** Brit is kicking off in their shop. Having a tantrum because they can't get what they want.....when they want....and the shopkeepers don't know WTF is going on. So I either have to go to the shop and help out the Spaniards or placate the Brit ****** on the phone.

This week I had two calls from two different shops on the same morning about the same Brit humanoid. Went to two shops and kicked off in both.

These people make me sick.....they come to rural inland Spain and think they're going to get the same level of choice as they would in Milton Keynes shopping mall.

I'm trying to make a living here and I keep getting caught up in the messes that these losers create. I do it, not to help them, but to help the local Spanish.....and hopefully try to repair the damage that they do to all our reputations in the community.

Moral of the story? Do not go to a rural part of Spain unless you are able to speak a reasonable degree of Spanish already, and do not go to rural areas if you're used to living in big cities.

If you do.....you will fail miserably. And in the process you'll make a [email protected] of yourself......and destroy any good Brit-Spanish relations that may exist.
Fortunately I think its quite rare tho Xtreme, most of the Brits who come over here and arent prepared to learn the language, culture etc, tend to gravitate towards Expatshire and the costas!!

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People wonder why I'm so negative about Brits over here.....well they need to walk a mile in my shoes!

I've been here since Nov 2005, and besides the first four months where we were looking for somewhere to live....I've been working. Every day.....usually all day.

I haven't had the time to have any formal instruction in Spanish.....because I spend all my time earning a living. But I have to speak Spanish every day just to be able to survive.....so a little bit of research along with continual speaking and listening....and I get by.
If people ask me do I speak Spanish....I just say a little. And I leave it that.

On accasions I've helped one or two good friends out with personal business....but that's it. However, over the past few months I've had more and more calls from shops that I go to.....where I know the owners.
And on every occasion it's because some monosyllabic, bottom-feeding, POS Brit trash is kicking off in their shop. Having a tantrum because they can't get what they want.....when they want....and the shopkeepers don't know WTF is going on. So I either have to go to the shop and help out the Spaniards or placate the Brit spermguzzler on the phone.

This week I had two calls from two different shops on the same morning about the same Brit humanoid. Went to two shops and kicked off in both.

These people make me sick.....they come to rural inland Spain and think they're going to get the same level of choice as they would in Milton Keynes shopping mall.

I'm trying to make a living here and I keep getting caught up in the messes that these losers create. I do it, not to help them, but to help the local Spanish.....and hopefully try to repair the damage that they do to all our reputations in the community.

Moral of the story? Do not go to a rural part of Spain unless you are able to speak a reasonable degree of Spanish already, and do not go to rural areas if you're used to living in big cities.

If you do.....you will fail miserably. And in the process you'll make a [email protected] of yourself......and destroy any good Brit-Spanish relations that may exist.
I agree with you Xtreme ... my Sister lives in a village outside Tarragona and is the only Brit there! until that is my parents moved over earlier this year ... now there are three of them! lol .... my sister is married to a Spaniard and has 2 babies .. she didnt speak any Spanish and he didnt speak any English at first ... now she is completely fluent and has opened her own business there catering to the Spanish of course!

As you know my spanish is crap! but I get by most of the time .. the difference is (and this isnt a get out for me at all ... ) down here you are constantly put off speaking Spanish as everyone wants to speak English!!! Working in Malaga is different though and my spanish has been tested to the limits! lol I have made it my goal to dedicate time to learning now ... Ive worked every day for 5 years here in an english speaking environment talking to people all over the world .. but again the "business" language tends to be English!

I wouldnt consider living where you are because I know at the moment I would fail miserably ...... maybe in a couple of years I can retire somewhere where I can converse properly!

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Well done you. Not sure if I'd have your level of patience!

What makes these ignoramuses (?) venture to your neck of the woods anyway? How come where you live is on their radar? Surely they realise they can't buy their souvenir authentic Spanish Mexican hats and straw donkeys there.
 

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People wonder why I'm so negative about Brits over here.....well they need to walk a mile in my shoes!

I've been here since Nov 2005, and besides the first four months where we were looking for somewhere to live....I've been working. Every day.....usually all day.

I haven't had the time to have any formal instruction in Spanish.....because I spend all my time earning a living. But I have to speak Spanish every day just to be able to survive.....so a little bit of research along with continual speaking and listening....and I get by.
If people ask me do I speak Spanish....I just say a little. And I leave it that.

On accasions I've helped one or two good friends out with personal business....but that's it. However, over the past few months I've had more and more calls from shops that I go to.....where I know the owners.
And on every occasion it's because some monosyllabic, ****** Brit is kicking off in their shop. Having a tantrum because they can't get what they want.....when they want....and the shopkeepers don't know WTF is going on. So I either have to go to the shop and help out the Spaniards or placate the Brit ****** on the phone.

This week I had two calls from two different shops on the same morning about the same Brit humanoid. Went to two shops and kicked off in both.

These people make me sick.....they come to rural inland Spain and think they're going to get the same level of choice as they would in Milton Keynes shopping mall.
I'm trying to make a living here and I keep getting caught up in the messes that these losers create. I do it, not to help them, but to help the local Spanish.....and hopefully try to repair the damage that they do to all our reputations in the community.

Moral of the story? Do not go to a rural part of Spain unless you are able to speak a reasonable degree of Spanish already, and do not go to rural areas if you're used to living in big cities.

If you do.....you will fail miserably. And in the process you'll make a [email protected] of yourself......and destroy any good Brit-Spanish relations that may exist.


You need to be put on the payroll for that service, XT!:D Agreed with you, personally - but there's been so many posts on here (incl. recently) whereby the poster has said "why should we integrate and learn the language, expatshire heaven/hell...blah blah blah". The very least one can do - and I know, after a certain age, it can be very difficult to attain even a rudimentary level of another language - is just bloody TRY. Be respectful. And if it's not going your way and you can't make yourself understood, don't stamp your feet and do a "Rumple Stiltskin", thinking that by shouting louder, you'll be understood. However, I fear that that idiot in the shop perhaps would have been a complete @sshole in the UK as well. He/She has probably gone away thinking that the shopkeeper is rude and ignorant and "how dare they...surely they would want my custom, especially in the current crisis....etc". :rolleyes: Even with the most basic level, if you just try, they'll be warm, appreciative, understanding and encouraging.

XT - Respect.:cool:
 

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If you want to know why these people come here......CHEAP PROPERTY!

They really aspire to live in Torrevieja but they didn't get enough dosh when they sold their cab!
 

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If you want to know why these people come here......CHEAP PROPERTY!

They really aspire to live in Torrevieja but they didn't get enough dosh when they sold their cab!
You mean they are planning on staying??

That doesn't bode well for you at all then!
 

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I dont think they'll wanna stay long if they get on the wrong side of Xtreme!!


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X will just make sure everyone in town knows about the guy's reliance on viagra/piles cream/head louse lotion & he'll soon run:D
 

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If you want to know why these people come here......CHEAP PROPERTY!

They really aspire to live in Torrevieja but they didn't get enough dosh when they sold their cab!
I'm getting bad vibes here. I'm not too rich, I can't speak Spanish, I like a rural setting and I will be in Xtremes 'zone of influence'. Maybe I should reconsider.

On the positive side: I do want to learn Spanish hence my choice of a non-expat area. I came to Poland in 1990 with a minimal knowledge of the language but now I am fluent in the 3 R's (reading, riting, rithmatic). Hopefully I won't be a burden.

What is interesting, reading the posts, is that Spain & Poland seem very similar. If you want shoelaces go to a kiosk, not to the shoe shop. If you want petty bureaucracy, the local authorities are past masters. Corruption? - Yes! Driving skills? - No! (The joke is that Italian drivers think that they are immortal. Polish drivers know they (Poles) are.)
 

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I'm getting bad vibes here. I'm not too rich, I can't speak Spanish, I like a rural setting and I will be in Xtremes 'zone of influence'. Maybe I should reconsider.

On the positive side: I do want to learn Spanish hence my choice of a non-expat area. I came to Poland in 1990 with a minimal knowledge of the language but now I am fluent in the 3 R's (reading, riting, rithmatic). Hopefully I won't be a burden.

What is interesting, reading the posts, is that Spain & Poland seem very similar. If you want shoelaces go to a kiosk, not to the shoe shop. If you want petty bureaucracy, the local authorities are past masters. Corruption? - Yes! Driving skills? - No! (The joke is that Italian drivers think that they are immortal. Polish drivers know they (Poles) are.)
Ah....but then perhaps you're more willing to make the effort?? And certainly not throw a tantrum because you can't get your favourite Chicken Tikka sauce or whatever in the local supermercado??!!;)
 

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Ah....but then perhaps you're more willing to make the effort?? And certainly not throw a tantrum because you can't get your favourite Chicken Tikka sauce or whatever in the local supermercado??!!;)
Buying chicken tikka sauce ?? They didn't have that in Poland last century so I learnt to prepare it myself - it's much better fresh than that monosodium etc. gunge one can buy. Tantrums ?? A bit of corporal punishment by my parents taught me that they didn't work. Unfortunately you're not allowed that sort of thing now.
 

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It seems strange that people who want to live in a particular area become stropy. They can only become alienated by the locals. I can't understand that mind set.
 

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Nice one, Xtreme. After 8 years, I know the feeling well. Trouble is somebody who can't be bothered (but is good at banging on about how all Spanish are illiterates) says husband is in A&E or they've been cut off (water, electric) etc still gets me out of bed!!

They don't need a xxxxxx translator; they need somebody to tell them not to xxxxxx drink and drive and that if they'd pay their electric bill they wouldn't get xxxxx cut-off. No language skills for that!

One woman who has been "using" me for years on a regular basis totally xxxxed off last summer. I'd done dozens of "quick translations" at vets, SUMA, garages, Telefónica etc and never been offered a cent. Her husband came round to prime the A/C and promptly stuck his hand out for 40 euros for 30 minutes work! Apparently now that Pete is an a/c professional (HGV driver in UK) his (few) hours of on the job training pay much better than all my/Xtreme's hours of learning the difference between cagar and caer! Don't get it wrong Donkey Boy!

As Taliban says once you have told the shop-full of people that the guy had erectile dysfunction there's not much more fun you can have!

How people who have lived all their lives in city centres with every convenience within 50 meters think they'll survive with only goats and dingles as company amazes me.

Proud of you and what you do for the geriatrics of Hicksville.
 

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Nice one, Xtreme. After 8 years, I know the feeling well. Trouble is somebody who can't be bothered (but is good at banging on about how all Spanish are illiterates) says husband is in A&E or they've been cut off (water, electric) etc still gets me out of bed!!

They don't need a xxxxxx translator; they need somebody to tell them not to xxxxxx drink and drive and that if they'd pay their electric bill they wouldn't get xxxxx cut-off. No language skills for that!

One woman who has been "using" me for years on a regular basis totally xxxxed off last summer. I'd done dozens of "quick translations" at vets, SUMA, garages, Telefónica etc and never been offered a cent. Her husband came round to prime the A/C and promptly stuck his hand out for 40 euros for 30 minutes work! Apparently now that Pete is an a/c professional (HGV driver in UK) his (few) hours of on the job training pay much better than all my/Xtreme's hours of learning the difference between cagar and caer! Don't get it wrong Donkey Boy!

As Taliban says once you have told the shop-full of people that the guy had erectile dysfunction there's not much more fun you can have!
How people who have lived all their lives in city centres with every convenience within 50 meters think they'll survive with only goats and dingles as company amazes me.

Proud of you and what you do for the geriatrics of Hicksville.
Not me, Guv. That was XabiaChica. Credit where credit's due and all that.;)

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Why don't you charge for your translations?

I do free translations for GENUINE friends, ie those who I know will return the favour one way or another in the future.

Otherwise I charge 6 cents per word if it is a text translation.
20 euros/hours for a traduccion presencial.
60 euros for half a day
100€ for a full day.

These are my cash-in-hand prices. If the client is a business and they want a factura I charge double the above for the traducciones presenciales but still the same amount for the traducción de textos.
 

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Why don't you charge for your translations?

I do free translations for GENUINE friends, ie those who I know will return the favour one way or another in the future.

Otherwise I charge 6 cents per word if it is a text translation.
20 euros/hours for a traduccion presencial.
60 euros for half a day
100€ for a full day.

These are my cash-in-hand prices. If the client is a business and they want a factura I charge double the above for the traducciones presenciales but still the same amount for the traducción de textos.
Steves done a bit of translating for me in the past and I've always offered to pay him, but I think he sees me as a friend????????????? So I got freebies!!!


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I will always help GENUINE friends.....and I'd like to think of you as one of those. It's the ones who think that speaking a language is not a skill you can put a price on and that it did not "cost". xxxxxx hours learning the imperfect subjunctive did!

Can't complain though I got a great Norwegian to English translation this week and I'd have been happy with 80 euros. The secretary apologised that her boss had only given her a budget of about 250 euros!!! Made up for all the split ostomy bags, waits at the police stations and projectile vomit at the health centre!
 
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