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Thanks for creating this thread. I am learning a lot. I have termites and molds in Tagaytay. They quoted me unbelievable cost for the termites extraction. 14K is way cheaper, mine was 55k for a 3 bedroom house and I don't trust they will do the work very well. T_T
Termites are a scourge to any home owner that has them digitalchic and sorry to hear you have them also. I think now after the 14K one year contract the guys doing the work are regretting ever setting eyes on our house, I don't think they really looked or realised how many infestations were on our land as well as a vacant block next door and the nests there as well. As for cost? Originally they wanted 16K but my better half haggled with them. Perhaps you could do the same or for that matter seek a second and third contractor to quote.
Regardless the cost even if 50K, if you have these relentless little intruders spend the money and get rid of them. Remember also that while a 1 year contract is fine it won't end there, it will probably be ongoing as we expect here until we sell and someone else will have the problem.
Where are the termites on your property, land only or in the house? One neighbour here had all their kitchen cupboards eaten and destroyed only 4 years after they built their house, very expensive replacement. (difficult to monitor until it's too late)
We don't have a problem with mould or mildew and perhaps that is the salt air blowing through the house daily. Try anti bacterial type surface cleaners to remove and kill, again ongoing. In Australia we used damp buckets (moisture absorbers) especially in walk in robes etc.

Good luck waging war with the enemy, like any combat (seek and destroy) cost money, you will win in the end though.

Cheers, Steve.
 

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Termites are a scourge to any home owner that has them digitalchic and sorry to hear you have them also. I think now after the 14K one year contract the guys doing the work are regretting ever setting eyes on our house, I don't think they really looked or realised how many infestations were on our land as well as a vacant block next door and the nests there as well. As for cost? Originally they wanted 16K but my better half haggled with them. Perhaps you could do the same or for that matter seek a second and third contractor to quote.
Regardless the cost even if 50K, if you have these relentless little intruders spend the money and get rid of them. Remember also that while a 1 year contract is fine it won't end there, it will probably be ongoing as we expect here until we sell and someone else will have the problem.
Where are the termites on your property, land only or in the house? One neighbour here had all their kitchen cupboards eaten and destroyed only 4 years after they built their house, very expensive replacement. (difficult to monitor until it's too late)
We don't have a problem with mould or mildew and perhaps that is the salt air blowing through the house daily. Try anti bacterial type surface cleaners to remove and kill, again ongoing. In Australia we used damp buckets (moisture absorbers) especially in walk in robes etc.

Good luck waging war with the enemy, like any combat (seek and destroy) cost money, you will win in the end though.

Cheers, Steve.
Thanks for the tips Steve. No wonder why the previous owner was eager to sold the house at a cheaper cost. I noticed that they come out after the rain. (Good luck, it's rainy season).The land has termites (and they fly at night), the neighbor told me that Tagaytay is infested with termites so it will be a long term maintenance. My jaw dropped LOL. My home office door has chipped, I ignored it for awhile thinking it was from the previous owner's fault. Then crumbs started falling off from hinges and doors. I also hear screeching sound at night from the ceiling.

Moulds and mildew are another problem. My walk in closets, linen cabinets and drawers were not save by diffusers. I bought 8 diffusers, only lasts for 3 weeks. I can't find oxy bleach here, I asked supermarkets and some hardware stores but they don't have any oxy bleach brands.
 

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Thanks for the tips Steve. No wonder why the previous owner was eager to sold the house at a cheaper cost. I noticed that they come out after the rain. (Good luck, it's rainy season).The land has termites (and they fly at night), the neighbor told me that Tagaytay is infested with termites so it will be a long term maintenance. My jaw dropped LOL. My home office door has chipped, I ignored it for awhile thinking it was from the previous owner's fault. Then crumbs started falling off from hinges and doors. I also hear screeching sound at night from the ceiling.

Moulds and mildew are another problem. My walk in closets, linen cabinets and drawers were not save by diffusers. I bought 8 diffusers, only lasts for 3 weeks. I can't find oxy bleach here, I asked supermarkets and some hardware stores but they don't have any oxy bleach brands.
Ultraviolet light kills mould. I heard somewhere that he n the tropics people would get a small ultraviolet bulb and put in the draw to keep the mould away, doesn't seem very practical to me but something like a walk in wardrobe or large cupboard should be possible.
 

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Ultraviolet light kills mould. I heard somewhere that he n the tropics people would get a small ultraviolet bulb and put in the draw to keep the mould away, doesn't seem very practical to me but something like a walk in wardrobe or large cupboard should be possible.
I have that in my living room but it kills mosquitoes, flies and roaches. Not sure with the moulds. Thanks Gary. I'll try.
 

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Liquid chlorine or Borax should be available here, go online and look at the mixing ratios, application, health and safety info.

If you want a healthier option good old vinegar and baking soda work also, google.

Cheer, Steve.
 

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Although ours is a new house, I have a contract with a pest control company. They come once every 3 months and spray for all types of bugs in the house and the garden, including the roof where they also put down traps for rodents. I pay P11k a year.
That's a wise investment Dave and a great price for what they are doing. Though our house is only 8 to 9 years old I would say the previous owner/builder (Canadian guy) never sprayed prior to pouring the foundations and slab nor bothered to do anything about them while living here and maybe didn't have to as from memory all his furniture was local hardwood same as the doors, jambs and window frames. they have attacked some of the window frames but only the softer parts then left, the frames are still sound.

A lot of our furniture is softer type wood shipped in from Oz and they found it. The battle now is keeping them at bay and then controlling them around the house.
Dave if you have timber kitchen cupboards installed stay vigilant, mentioned in another post one of the neighbours here had to replace hers after 4 years.

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Well, the worst problem is you live in a tropical climate year around. the moisture content is there most of the year. The worst problem is the subterranean termite. they live on moisture to survive. Any wood on a house that touches the ground will be a good home for them. With all the rain and moisture the wood stays damp. this is like a piece of metal and a magnet. Sucks them right into the foundation.

I don't see any real solution to the termite problem in a climate like there other then an on-going treatment.

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Well, the worst problem is you live in a tropical climate year around. the moisture content is there most of the year. The worst problem is the subterranean termite. they live on moisture to survive. Any wood on a house that touches the ground will be a good home for them. With all the rain and moisture the wood stays damp. this is like a piece of metal and a magnet. Sucks them right into the foundation.

I don't see any real solution to the termite problem in a climate like there other then an on-going treatment.

art
Art, there is a solution and over the years our home has turned from Bamboo to concrete and next this wooden roof will turn into steel beams, but I'm going to shorten the house in half because the size of our home is way too large and becoming extremely expensive with upkeep maintenance.

When I would come here on my tourist Visa back in 1993 at least one of my legs would fall through the bamboo floor and just before I retired in 2003 the entire house was starting to move so that's when we began changing it as we could afford into concrete but the roof is still the same and rotten.
 

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hey m.c.a.

yes, you are correct. Using concrete and metal roofing is the real solution but a lot of people can't afford that luxury. I am a building contractor and have been most of my life. I know places like Puerto Rico builds mostly concrete homes. Again it never gets cold there like in the Philippines. Even in the kitchen areas the isle for the sink and etc are made of concrete. The main thing is to dig down around a home and treat the soil so the subterranean termites can't live there. I am from Florida and it is bad here also but we do have our colder weather through the winter months and that helps.

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I hear what you are saying art as I am all for steel but for us I wonder how long steel trusses will last as we are right on the beach. The corrugated iron roof that is only 8 to 9 years old is on its way out, a lot of the neighbours here repaint their metal roofs every 4 to 5 years. One of the problems is the material thickness @ .45mm and another is that they overlap short sheets and that holds the salt laden moisture between the sheets, we are chasing up whether we can get .60mm colorbond in the lengths we want, available in Manila but not found a local supplier, sorry off track.

We have very heavy (6" x 2") fabricated timber roof trusses and 3" x 2" battens @ 2Ft centres. Because we have plenty of termites I spent a lot of time in the roof space when we first arrived checking the structure for damage and evidence of termites, nada. I asked the builder we had installing the new ceilings (remember the Ecowood?) why the termites had not touched any of the roof timbers, he said that's because it's ??????? wood (yes forgot the name) and too hard for them to eat. It's even difficult to drive a nail into. He said the timber is available to do our extensions and advised against steel given our location.

I think that our biggest mistake was to ship our furniture here as there was no evidence of termites in the house while we cleaned walls, floors and ceilings for 2 weeks prior to the shipping container arriving, apart from a little damage to some of the window frames from many years ago. Within a week of moving our furniture in the little blighters came in through one of the power points to wreak merry havoc. In come the termite dudes. They have only attacked the master bedroom and for some reason 2 of the bathrooms, all other areas are free from invasion.
I do have a lot to learn,,,, until my dying day but for us here steel is going to be a problem, even half a mile away (inland) I see the steel iron laced fences disintegrating, many use stainless steel gates and infills on their fences and those that feel the need use S/S for their window security. Expensive yes but generally maintenance free.

Onto a brighter note, it appears that after 3 months of weekly baiting and digging up/removing queens from nests the assault is now diminishing in the bedroom and nothing for weeks in the 2 bathrooms, great news for us but I'm sure the pest control guys will continue to be employed for a very long time, eventually perhaps like Hogrider, every 3 months.

Cheers, Steve.
 

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hey m.c.a.

yes, you are correct. Using concrete and metal roofing is the real solution but a lot of people can't afford that luxury. I am a building contractor and have been most of my life. I know places like Puerto Rico builds mostly concrete homes. Again it never gets cold there like in the Philippines. Even in the kitchen areas the isle for the sink and etc are made of concrete. The main thing is to dig down around a home and treat the soil so the subterranean termites can't live there. I am from Florida and it is bad here also but we do have our colder weather through the winter months and that helps.

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Art you'd be amazed at the cost difference it's going to be a little more but it'll last, because the maximum a wooden beamed roof can with stand termites is (termites fly here :D) about 10 years. So finding a good work crew is also important, it's almost worth it to do sections of the house then to add the wood again and another huge factor would be to try this during the dry season.
 

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Art you'd be amazed at the cost difference it's going to be a little more but it'll last, because the maximum a wooden beamed roof can with stand termites is (termites fly here :D) about 10 years. So finding a good work crew is also important, it's almost worth it to do sections of the house then to add the wood again and another huge factor would be to try this during the dry season.
Not all is the same Mark, location, location, ocean or inland etc; while we have timber within our roof structure the termites don't go near it and it doesn't rust. Structurally sound, have done some research on timbers that termites won't touch here in PH and none of the names ring a bell, nada, again my bad/ignorance for not listening and still looking, perhaps I should consult the architect/engineer that we sacked? Doubtful and then some that he would bother talking to us as we departed on bad terms. His loss.
As said I am a steel lover and though a little more expensive has to be for the right application. Living on the beach not only brings rust and destruction to our car, motorbikes and the tools and equipment here, to steel members also means cleaning windows of salt laden air every week, and perhaps my mention of this on another thread with regards to mould that we don't have but other problems.
Horses for courses, hope I spelt that correctly. Depending on where you live/environment definitely dictates the materials used in construction or renovations.
For us it has to be the right timber, others win with steel structures.

Cheers, Steve.
 
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