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Hi,

I have applied for ACS assessement on 7th of December as "2231-79 -Oracle Specialist" using RPL path and have 12 years of experience. My total work experience is Oracle base and provided detailed reference letters based on my Oracle work and also the projects.

But today recieved the letter from ACS saying I am suitable for "2231-15 Software Designer" what the hell....I am so disappointed..anyone faced the same problems and what should I do now?
 

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it is not a problem. that what they do. if they dont find you suitable in the occupation you applied, they will assess in another occupation
 

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So they left me nowhere? what should I do any suggestions? not in a mood to spend my hard earned money for the damn APPEAL.


it is not a problem. that what they do. if they dont find you suitable in the occupation you applied, they will assess in another occupation
 

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Dear Zahidzia,
It is unusual that u show experience in Oracle n they access u for some another ASCO. :confused:
If u don't mind, Pls post ur ref letter over here (wipe out ur personal details) so that we can know the exact reason.
Hi,

I have applied for ACS assessement on 7th of December as "2231-79 -Oracle Specialist" using RPL path and have 12 years of experience. My total work experience is Oracle base and provided detailed reference letters based on my Oracle work and also the projects.

But today recieved the letter from ACS saying I am suitable for "2231-15 Software Designer" what the hell....I am so disappointed..anyone faced the same problems and what should I do now?
 

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they assess you on basis of documents provided. please check your documents again, give them more documents and proof if they want and apply for reassessment. the cost is i think 30-50$ (not sure though)
 

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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

This is to certify that Mr. Zahid Zia was employed full time from 9am to 6pm (Mon - Sat) by xyz company from May 1996 to March 2009 as “Senior Software Engineer/Analyst” and was drawing monthly salary of Rs. xxxx.

He held the following positions during the employment with us.

May 1996 to July 2002 as Software Engineer
August 2002 to March 2009 as Senior Software Engineer
He worked on HRMS/Payroll project as a Project Lead/Senior Software Engineer and proved himself very capable of managing projects and showed an organized and methodical approach.

During the employment with xyz company, he has worked as Senior Software Engineer with the added responsibilities of an Analyst and worked on numerous projects.

His responsibilities and job description is attached in the following page.

This reference letter has been issued on the request of Mr. Zahid Zia in connection with his application for Australian Computer Society and Department of Immigration and Citizenship Australia.

If you would like to discuss this further, please feel free to contact me.



________________________
Name of Manager
Manager Projects & Operations
xyz company
Tel:
Cell:
Fax:
Email:

Responsibilities were in the attached page with the letter.

1. Design, Development and testing of IT applications and Systems based on client specification and requirements using Oracle tools and platform.

2. Investigates such problems and opportunities to determine the feasibility of system solutions that appear appropriate.

3. Prepare the DFD's and Flowcharts for the System.

4. Producing design specifications as required from functional specifications, identifying all sub tasks, estimated the duration and feeding back to the technical architect, technical lead and project manager.

and couple more

But the problem is which everyone knows that in our continent no matter india or pakistan employers hire less people and assign more jobs to them like one person is responsible for designing, development and testing as well or designing, development and also doing DBA job as well. So i guess i was being very honest and made a biggest mistake.



Dear Zahidzia,
It is unusual that u show experience in Oracle n they access u for some another ASCO. :confused:
If u don't mind, Pls post ur ref letter over here (wipe out ur personal details) so that we can know the exact reason.
 

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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

This is to certify that Mr. Zahid Zia was employed full time from 9am to 6pm (Mon - Sat) by xyz company from May 1996 to March 2009 as “Senior Software Engineer/Analyst” and was drawing monthly salary of Rs. xxxx.

He held the following positions during the employment with us.

May 1996 to July 2002 as Software Engineer
August 2002 to March 2009 as Senior Software Engineer
He worked on HRMS/Payroll project as a Project Lead/Senior Software Engineer and proved himself very capable of managing projects and showed an organized and methodical approach.

During the employment with xyz company, he has worked as Senior Software Engineer with the added responsibilities of an Analyst and worked on numerous projects.

His responsibilities and job description is attached in the following page.

This reference letter has been issued on the request of Mr. Zahid Zia in connection with his application for Australian Computer Society and Department of Immigration and Citizenship Australia.

If you would like to discuss this further, please feel free to contact me.



________________________
Name of Manager
Manager Projects & Operations
xyz company
Tel:
Cell:
Fax:
Email:

Responsibilities were in the attached page with the letter.

1. Design, Development and testing of IT applications and Systems based on client specification and requirements using Oracle tools and platform.

2. Investigates such problems and opportunities to determine the feasibility of system solutions that appear appropriate.

3. Prepare the DFD's and Flowcharts for the System.

4. Producing design specifications as required from functional specifications, identifying all sub tasks, estimated the duration and feeding back to the technical architect, technical lead and project manager.

and couple more

But the problem is which everyone knows that in our continent no matter india or pakistan employers hire less people and assign more jobs to them like one person is responsible for designing, development and testing as well or designing, development and also doing DBA job as well. So i guess i was being very honest and made a biggest mistake.
Mine was a bit different, i sent my docs for ".net professional" and they assessed as is.
i included my client interaction, testing, development, project management and resource allocation etc.But i mentioned my every project, tools & techs used in each, roles and responsibilities in each project, so in each project ".Net" was prominent.

Letter from my current company was of 2 pages, along with projects, tools and techs and from prev company it was of 3 pages with same pattern. They did not ask me to send any further document and assessed me in 37days, if you want tore-apply i would not feel any problem to share my letter.

A friend of mine lives in your city, ping me if you want his help.
 

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I did mention at the end what technologies I've worked on and ORACLe was in bold ..it was a long letter so didnt type completely...and in RPL project reports I did Ive mentioned in the project about my development using Oracle forms and report. At the end of every project report I have clearly mentioned what tools I have used in the project and duration + resources...I dont know what they did to me...honestly speaking I dont have extra money to throw for appeals and re application as Australia is not the end of the world. But I did send them a letter saying that in our continent story is different and we do design and develop both so you cannot assess me on DESIGN only. lets see
 

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Hi,

I have applied for ACS assessement on 7th of December as "2231-79 -Oracle Specialist" using RPL path and have 12 years of experience. My total work experience is Oracle base and provided detailed reference letters based on my Oracle work and also the projects.

But today recieved the letter from ACS saying I am suitable for "2231-15 Software Designer" what the hell....I am so disappointed..anyone faced the same problems and what should I do now?
Can you attach your assessment letter with your personal info erased?

Is it a positive assessment for "2231-15 Software Designer" ?
 

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Can you attach your assessment letter with your personal info erased?

Is it a positive assessment for "2231-15 Software Designer" ?
Avinash,

here is the letter I got from ACS please have a look and i will send u the letters what i have sent them for assessment once i will reach home as i am in office rightnow..also look the 2nd paragraph of the letter from ACS they have mentioned date "May 2004" which makes no sense to me...whats that?


Dear Mr. Siddiqui

I refer to your application for pre-migration skill assessement, which was recieved by the Australian Computer Society on 7th December 2009.

For the purpose of your application you have as of May 2004 satisfied the requirements of the ACS PIM 2, Group B.

Your work experience has been calculated as follows.

Dates: 05/96 - 05/98
Position : 2 years deducted as being equivalent to an AQF Diploma
Employer : ABC Technologies

Dates: 05/98 - 03/09 (10 years 10 months)
Position : Software Engineer
Employer : ABC Technologies

Dates: 04/09 - 11/09 (0 years 07 months)
Position : Software Engineer
Employer : XYZ Company

You should note that the Department of immigration reserves the right to undertake further detailed investigation of your work experience for the purpose of assessing the recent work experience requirement, and the specific work experience and Australian work experience points test items.

Your skills have been assessed to be suitable for migration under 2231-15 of the ASCO Code, being the skilled occupation indicated that you intend to nominate in a General Skilled Migration application.

The assessment is based upon the documents provided. By issuing this letter or otherwise, the ACS makes no representation about:
1. the authenticity of the documents provided or the veracity of content;
2. the suitability of the applicant for migration or employment, each of which is dependant upon additional factors.

This assessement advice is valid for a period of one year from the date of this letter.

Any queries you may have regarding this assessement should be made in writing and forwarded to the Deputy Director, at the above address.
 

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Avinash,

here is the letter I got from ACS please have a look and i will send u the letters what i have sent them for assessment once i will reach home as i am in office rightnow..also look the 2nd paragraph of the letter from ACS they have mentioned date "May 2004" which makes no sense to me...whats that?


Dear Mr. Siddiqui

I refer to your application for pre-migration skill assessement, which was recieved by the Australian Computer Society on 7th December 2009.

For the purpose of your application you have as of May 2004 satisfied the requirements of the ACS PIM 2, Group B.

Your work experience has been calculated as follows.

Dates: 05/96 - 05/98
Position : 2 years deducted as being equivalent to an AQF Diploma
Employer : ABC Technologies

Dates: 05/98 - 03/09 (10 years 10 months)
Position : Software Engineer
Employer : ABC Technologies

Dates: 04/09 - 11/09 (0 years 07 months)
Position : Software Engineer
Employer : XYZ Company

You should note that the Department of immigration reserves the right to undertake further detailed investigation of your work experience for the purpose of assessing the recent work experience requirement, and the specific work experience and Australian work experience points test items.

Your skills have been assessed to be suitable for migration under 2231-15 of the ASCO Code, being the skilled occupation indicated that you intend to nominate in a General Skilled Migration application.

The assessment is based upon the documents provided. By issuing this letter or otherwise, the ACS makes no representation about:
1. the authenticity of the documents provided or the veracity of content;
2. the suitability of the applicant for migration or employment, each of which is dependant upon additional factors.

This assessement advice is valid for a period of one year from the date of this letter.

Any queries you may have regarding this assessement should be made in writing and forwarded to the Deputy Director, at the above address.


Please review your reference letters & resume for the period "05/98 - 03/09". Have you not done any Oracle certification?

"May 2004" is nothing but by end of "May 2004" you have qualified (met the requirement) for "2231-15"
That if you had applied on "June 2004" you would have be given positive assessment for "2231-15".
 

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Avinash I've applied for 2231-79 (Oracle specialist)...no I didnt do any certification..but in all my projects reports ive mentioned my expertise in oracle because they were my projects which i have developed in Oracle. In my resume ive clearly mentioned this term "Design and Develop" ...God knows what but this was not a wise decision. You cannot work on the same "Software developer" position for 13 years as you get senior you get multiple responsibilities.

I cannot understand as they've totally ignored my Oracle development I am unable to understand why


Please review your reference letters & resume for the period "05/98 - 03/09". Have you not done any Oracle certification?

"May 2004" is nothing but by end of "May 2004" you have qualified (met the requirement) for "2231-15"
That if you had applied on "June 2004" you would have be given positive assessment for "2231-15".
 

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Well, they assess you on basis of documents provided. try changing the language of your CV a bit. call them, ask them why have they assessed you as sw dev. they wont loose if u give up now.. tiem to act before its too late..
 

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Is there anyone who can tell me that being ASCO-2231-15 can be better or not. and where can I apply with this ASCO. Atleast my assessment is positive now look for where can i go with this ASCO i got from ACS.

Please review your reference letters & resume for the period "05/98 - 03/09". Have you not done any Oracle certification?

"May 2004" is nothing but by end of "May 2004" you have qualified (met the requirement) for "2231-15"
That if you had applied on "June 2004" you would have be given positive assessment for "2231-15".
 

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check the CSL if this code is on the list or not.. apply for the visa if it is without wasting time. alternatively apply for state sponsorship (ss), right now ss is being given priority and in the near future CSL will cease to exist. No one can say what changes will follow the 8th feb changes.
 

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Is there anyone who can tell me that being ASCO-2231-15 can be better or not. and where can I apply with this ASCO. Atleast my assessment is positive now look for where can i go with this ASCO i got from ACS.
You can check State Sponsorship option of different states, as you have extensive experience of your field, i think it will help you.
 

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ACS idiots left me hanging and given me the ASCO which does not exist neither in MODL nor in CSL and many State sponsorships have the professions which is in MODL so therefore i am not there as well...this is what worrying me now and my 450 dollars went down the drain.


check the CSL if this code is on the list or not.. apply for the visa if it is without wasting time. alternatively apply for state sponsorship (ss), right now ss is being given priority and in the near future CSL will cease to exist. No one can say what changes will follow the 8th feb changes.
 

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Hi Zahid,
Umair here.
I have already talked with you on phone and aware about your issue. The Software Designer occupation is not in MODL and obviously not in CSL too. So If you'll lodge your 175 Application based on this ACS letter It will take years to get the visa.

Zahid Have you tried to call ACS or email regarding your situation? I have told you last time to do that. It may be possible that ACS made a mistake..

Thanks...
 

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Hi Umair,

the time difference in between Sydney and Pakistan is too much..:) will try on monday as they already have a weekend start.


Hi Zahid,
Umair here.
I have already talked with you on phone and aware about your issue. The Software Designer occupation is not in MODL and obviously not in CSL too. So If you'll lodge your 175 Application based on this ACS letter It will take years to get the visa.

Zahid Have you tried to call ACS or email regarding your situation? I have told you last time to do that. It may be possible that ACS made a mistake..

Thanks...
 
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