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Hi Everyone

Glad to see that many people are out here to post their problems and post their answers.. really great.

I am in the process of preparing for ACS. I have got reference letters from my previous organizations. My present organization refuses to give me a reference letter as it is against the company policy. I know I can get a statutory declaration, but this has posed a great problem for me as i dont know what the template or format of the statutory should be? What all should i specify in it? What other docs I should present along with the statutory to prove my employment?I am really confused...

can anybody help by sending out the format or something, plz.
By the way I am from India.

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Siva
 

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Hi Siva,

Every country has a different statutory declaration format which corresponds to the law in that country. You'd best ask an Indian solicitor for the correct format.

Once you have the right format you then include all the information that would be included in a reference, except it must be written in your own words of course. I'd attach any documentary proof available to the declaration and your skills application - contract of employment, business cards etc.
 

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Hi Siva,
The same topic had been discussed before, Anyway, my husband is from IT and had problem with the reference letter as well, he has cleared his acs and in not more than 25 days. I will give you a list of things that we added
1. All certificates i.e. degree, diploma, short term course, MCSE etc, whatever you have done, attach them all
2. All certificates ever given to you by the companies you worked for, like certificate of excellence, letters of promotion, salary hike letters, employment / contract letter of probation period or permanent employee etc, anything and everything that can be a proof of your being employed at your current as well as previous companies.
3. Reference letters from your co-employees as well as seniors, with respective business cards.
4. Declaration stating that you fear loosing your job if at all you ask for the reference from the employer or stating that the as per the company policy you could not be given the reference letter. You see they need the reference letter on company letterhead only to be sure that the person applying for the assessment / visa is not faking employment with the said company, incase you give enough documents to support your application and your CV, it would do good.
5. Salary Slips, this too helps, since it again is a proof of your being employed at the said company.
6. To support the salary slips, attach your bank statement of say one year or more
7. When you make the file, make sure you pick the one in which you can attach those palstic pockets. The one available from SOLo i guess, make an annexure or index that states which page has what document, mark each pocket with a number corresponding with the index or annexure, the more organised your papers are, the better it is. It makes life easier for the assessee.
8. Make sure all your papers are attested, in-case you have any certificate in Hindi, get it translated and attach that as well.
9. For attesting the papers you can go to any notary and get the job done, they take 10 bux per paper but if the papers are way too many, they might take half the amount or a an X amount, depends on your bargaining skills :p.

I guess that would be it. My husband had all his certificates etc in a bag, we photocopied everything, got them attested and sent the entire bundle, from what I can remember, we had close to 70 papers

Anything else..just ask.

Anj
 

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And I am from India as wel, live in Gurgaon, forgot to mention that bit.
 

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hi Anj:

Would like to know if he gave his manager's or HR's reference on company letterhead and did they call your husbands employer (manager or HR) to cross verify?

Thanks in Advance.
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hi Anj:

Would like to know if he gave his manager's or HR's reference on company letterhead and did they call your husbands employer (manager or HR) to cross verify?

Thanks in Advance.
faf
Hey faf,

he gave his co employees references.. for the HR and the manager he gave the declaration. His manager told him that we will give you a reference but for that you will have to increase your notice period from a month to 3 months, which ofcourse we were not willing to do. He told his manager that he can keep the reference with him, and used the statutory declaration. as for the HR, if you have a good repo with your seniors, and you think they will not make it public, ask them for it, the HR refrence or the manager's reference, its all good.. they do call, but it isnt necessary that they will, they might or maybe be they don't..

our ACS result was out in 22 days flat, i think our agent applied online becasue he knew the results in 22 days.. and they did not call anyone, we gave as many as 80-90 papers to prove his education, his work etc.. they call only to verify if you are stating the truth and have not forged the papers. If you give salary slips, certificates of excellence from your office/s etc, anything to everything that you have to prove your being employed by the company, it adds to your profile.. again, they may call, in our case they did not.
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we have employed an agent.
 

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Example of Statutory Declarations

This thread is NOT for chat or questions - please start another thread for those.

Anything other than an example of a statutory declaration will be deleted.

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From the UK:
This is an example of what I used which was created in a word document and read and signed in front of a solicitor (for which we had to pay).

STATUTORY DECLARATION

I, [FULL NAME], do solemnly and sincerely declare the following for the purposes of Australian Immigration:

[LIST OF DECLARATIONS - in my case how long I'd had my own IT company, the software and hardware I'd used, briefly my role as an analyst programmer, that I worked from home and at client sites when required, that I was a member of British Computer Society]

I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the statements contained in this declaration to be true in every particular.

[SIGNATURE OF PERSON MAKING DECLARATION]

Declared at [NAME OF OFFICES] on [DAY, MONTH, YEAR] before me

[SIGNATURE OF SOLICITOR]
[STAMP OF SOLICITORS OFFICE]

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Regards,
Karen
 
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For Australia go to

Statutory declarations

everything you need to know and you can download blank forms.
Just wanted to clarify that an agent on here before has said that they need to follow the laws of the country where they are declared so the Aussie ones will not be of use for people moving into the country although they can be used for people in Australia when applying for visas here (for example if needed for temp to perm visa).

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Hi

I have read all of your replies.You have provided very good information.First of all thankyou for that.

May i know the contact details of the agent through which you people applied for Aus.
I need to apply for my TRA first and then Aus Permanent Resident Visa.I am currently working in Hongkong.

Waiting for an urgent reply.

With Regards,
Arvind Chugh
 

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Hi Arvind

welcome to the forum

a few people hv used george lombard, there is go matilda, there is SOMV (she write in the forum regularly, her contact details are in her signature)

whoever u plan to hire, make sure they are MARA/MIA registered.

for any thing else, give us a shout and do let us know how things go

cheers
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Hi Anj!

Hi Arvind

welcome to the forum

a few people hv used george lombard, there is go matilda, there is SOMV (she write in the forum regularly, her contact details are in her signature)

whoever u plan to hire, make sure they are MARA/MIA registered.

for any thing else, give us a shout and do let us know how things go

cheers
anj

Hi Anj,

First of All, Thanks for posting such detailed information on the ACS and especially the checklist to go thru for Skills assesment. I was looking out for this info from quite sometime and nice to have it now.

About myself, I am from IT background, working in Bangalore from 8.5yrs.

I had a question on using MARA/MIA agents, is it preferable or recommended going thru them or we can do on individual basis? Also, can u attach a sample or format of what documents you sent. I wanted to understand the structure because I see lots of documentation required to present to ACS for assesment.

Thanks and Looking forward to your response.

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hi asgar.

when u say sample documents. what exactly are you looking for? if u search the forum, u wont believe how much you will find :). all thanks to people who share their experiences here.

when i say MARA/MIA agent, whoever you use, make sure they are registered MARA/MIA agents, if at all they land you in a mess, you can write to the respective authority about them so they normally dont land u in trouble. they take their job seriously and know what they are doing. and if at all u do employ and agent, make sure you read a lot and know what they are doing, dont follow them blindly. If you feel confident, you can even do it on your own. A lot of people use agents (like me) and then there are those who do everything on their own. its personal choice really.

Let me know if u need any further info on anything. and if u do need any info, search the forum, alternately start a new thread.

cheers
anj
 
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Thanks Anj for your response.

Sample documents in the sense if you can attach the scanned copies what was used to submit to ACS (can erase all personal details etc). I am kind of confused as to what level of documentation is required to be sure that it is at par with the expectations of ACS authoroties.
 

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we attached all work related documents, salary slips, bank statement, IT returns, certificates (performance based), appointment letter, appraisal letter, so on and forth. statutory declaration (OH could give the current company references from the senior management). I dont have the scanned documents, I have shared everything that I had here. you should search the forum fro stat dec format, I do remember someone posting one here.

start with the ACS checklist, see all that u can gather, open the docs and see them as a lay man, is it enough to prove that you are working in XYZ company? make a list and post it here, i am sure someone will point out if u need any more thn what u already have.
 

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Where can I find the ACS checklist ? Can you share if any links or so?
 

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