With the changes we are seeing in SSA, what are your thoughts on how they will handle the 7162 form (proof of life) this year? I can’t imagine they will keep the manual form anymore. And even if they did, I think it’s highly likely it goes haywire, and the recourse to get reinstated will be restricted. What do you all think?
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Now that you made a threat, what lesson am I going to learn?
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I failed to get in the second time and now will wait until they open in an hour or so. I have never had a problem logging in before the DOGE musketeers started dinking around in the system. My account is a US address so I am not worried about proof of life but I do need to get a tax for printed from the website.
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Took awhile but finally accessed SSA. I have IDme and login gov. Login gov worked after a few tries and OTP to phone.
The website definitely has more issues now than in the past but it eventually worked which is good because they are reducing the number of people who answer phones.
Now it works like many government sites in the Philippines so it wasn't a big adjustment for me.
The website definitely has more issues now than in the past but it eventually worked which is good because they are reducing the number of people who answer phones.
Now it works like many government sites in the Philippines so it wasn't a big adjustment for me.
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They have sacked many of the fixers so it take longed for the website to be repaired, it's been up and down 2 or 3 times in the last few week. You are now entering the FO phase of FAFO.Took awhile but finally accessed SSA. I have IDme and login gov. Login gov worked after a few tries and OTP to phone.
The website definitely has more issues now than in the past but it eventually worked which is good because they are reducing the number of people who answer phones.
Now it works like many government sites in the Philippines so it wasn't a big adjustment for me.
Social Security Updates Recently Announced Identity Proofing Requirements | SSA
The Social Security Administration (SSA) is taking proactive steps to enhance the security of its services by implementing stronger identity verification procedures. The updated measures will further…
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SSA has been implementing this particular change since at least last fall, before the November 2024 elections. The thing to consider when choosing which login verification service to use is this: are you using an international mobile number or a US mobile number? The reason is that both ID.me and login.gov require you to use Two-Factor-Authorization (2FA) each time you log into SSA, once you complete the verification of the service you will be using. Login.gov will only send a text message to your phone, and will only send it to US mobile numbers. ID.me, you can choose to receive a text message (US mobile numbers only) or use Google Authenticator. I'm in the process of finishing the verification of my ID.me account for SSA, which requires a quick video conference call to make sure my actual face matches the one on my photo ID. Once this is done, I can do my login and verification via the web without the need for a camera (our PC doesn't have a built-in one, and we don't have an external one right now, so I have to do this final step using my mobile phone). Yes, it's a pain in the arse and I understand why they are doing it. However, not everyone is computer savvy enough to do it using one of those two methods without help, regardless of age.
So, that's it in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to message me directly if you have further questions, as I hang out on the Other Americas board.🐾
So, that's it in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to message me directly if you have further questions, as I hang out on the Other Americas board.
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Not entirely correct. Both login.gov and idme allow foreign numbers for authentication - I have both a US and a French number registered and can chose which one to use for notifications. Login.gov also allows Touch ID and Face ID and idle allows Touch ID.SSA has been implementing this particular change since at least last fall, before the November 2024 elections. The thing to consider when choosing which login verification service to use is this: are you using an international mobile number or a US mobile number? The reason is that both ID.me and login.gov require you to use Two-Factor-Authorization (2FA) each time you log into SSA, once you complete the verification of the service you will be using. Login.gov will only send a text message to your phone, and will only send it to US mobile numbers. ID.me, you can choose to receive a text message (US mobile numbers only) or use Google Authenticator. I'm in the process of finishing the verification of my ID.me account for SSA, which requires a quick video conference call to make sure my actual face matches the one on my photo ID. Once this is done, I can do my login and verification via the web without the need for a camera (our PC doesn't have a built-in one, and we don't have an external one right now, so I have to do this final step using my mobile phone). Yes, it's a pain in the arse and I understand why they are doing it. However, not everyone is computer savvy enough to do it using one of those two methods without help, regardless of age.
So, that's it in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to message me directly if you have further questions, as I hang out on the Other Americas board.
It's not a matter of private sector vs. government sector employees and jobs. The issue is really a billionaire that decided what would and should be cut without any analysis and thought. Elon and his tech boys have taken control of all the Social security data (yours and mine), control of every government institution, and decided somehow just to chop off the block. Of course it all followed Project 2025. So cutting 80K positions from the VA does in fact destroy VA health care system, cutting 10K at HHS yesterday just jeopardized mental health research, all sorts of medical research, occupational safety, and the list goes on. This approach of just blowing up the system like Elon did at twitter may have worked in the private sector but the fallout to destroying government services will be felt for years. Yes people can applaud and say that those "government workers didn't deserve life time jobs and were lazy" but the majority of physicians and nurses I worked with at VA worked harder than anyone I know taking care of our nations Veterans. It is really disrespectful to assume those that provide government services like getting your Social Security check processed to you are "lazy and not doing their job" because you have swallowed the grape juice. Hope you never need anything from another human being...they may think you are too lazy to do it yourself !!
Everyone is at risk except Zep above since he thinks all the government employees that have been fired were lazy and not doing their jobs...So all the ones being fired from Social Security won't be processing his check ...I wonder how they did it before if they were so incompetent. Oh maybe I am wrong. Maybe he is one of the 1% Oligarchy that takes from society and doesn't need those lazy people doing anything for him anyway..
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Your comparing apples and pears again Howard.
www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/7/fact-check-did-clinton-set
How many of those did you disparage and call Lazy and not doing their jobs?? It has nothing to do with who was president ...It's more about the respect for anyone doing a job and and how any organization goes about downsizing. I am also responding to your disrespect and lack of kindness toward another human being that must be going through a difficult time. Love beats Hate
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One government hires, the other fires, and many do both in the same term, the same everywhere.
Even the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) lays off civil servants and downsizes the public sector. It has a long history of doing so to deal with inefficiency and overcapacity. Sometimes, state-owned businesses have laid off workers in the millions. Economic layoffs by the CCP are made but often called 'silent layoffs' to make it more palatable, apparently.
Politicians, media, businesses and the public will use the words they prefer, but ultimately, it all amounts to the same.
Even the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) lays off civil servants and downsizes the public sector. It has a long history of doing so to deal with inefficiency and overcapacity. Sometimes, state-owned businesses have laid off workers in the millions. Economic layoffs by the CCP are made but often called 'silent layoffs' to make it more palatable, apparently.
Politicians, media, businesses and the public will use the words they prefer, but ultimately, it all amounts to the same.
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NO! Melon Musk and Agent Orange have made a mess of SS this year. I found a copy of my 7162 for 2024. It was mailed from US June 6 and received in Chiang Mai and mailed back in the envelope June 16. I'm going to use it as a template to make a new one with barcode for 2025 with Photoshop and mail it asap. Yeah, the comment is a good idea, too. I hoped to Google comments from other countries to see if this is a problem outside Thailand but draw a blank. The mail to US is also flakey this year for the first time since 2005, so it seems best to send it now to avoid cessation in February. I'll email Manilla with an attached scanned PDF in a few weeks to see if it's there. If Manilla doesn't confirm receipt I'll send another one to Wilkes-Barre. There used to be a fax number, too, but I doubt it still works.
Oh yeah, I'm sure the SSA will be happy you made a forged document and sent it to them. lol
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