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Some of my best friends are Mexicans

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Personally my "best" Mexican friend stems from 1962 and now he is a rich, racist bigot, sort of.

Through him and others I have learned to understand the chip on shoulder mentality of the educated classes in Mexico. Understandably in the context of US/ Mexican history.

Nevertheless, I am not particularly sociable, and my Mex wife bitches about that, but I have had, am having, and probably will continue to suspect my so called "mexican friends" of ulterior motives.

I suspect that they either want something from me, or are trying to figure out how to screw me in their favor. I am probably hexing the few that may actually like me for who and what I am

This probably sounds racist, and it probably is, and probably is universal (Don`t trust the Greeks, they will screw you, as said in umpteen German travel guides).

Bottom line is I am totally conversational in Spanish, but, aside from my continuing experiences from 1962 I have yet to form a "good buddy" relationship with a Mexican.
Yes, I have all the syndromes of supposed Mexican friendships, big hugs, shared drinks and shared kills, and the equivalent of family picnics,


But in my heart I know that I am not one of "them", because ................
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Bottom line is I am totally conversational in Spanish, but, aside from my continuing experiences from 1962 I have yet to form a "good buddy" relationship with a Mexican.
Yes, I have all the syndromes of supposed Mexican friendships, big hugs, shared drinks and shared kills, and the equivalent of family picnics,


But in my heart I know that I am not one of "them", because ................
Interesting. While I haven't lived in Mexico -- yet -- I worked for five years at a museum in Taos, New Mexico, 1979-84. Taos has a large majority of "Spanish" folks (don"t EVER call them Mexicans!) dating back to the early 17th century. There is (or was) considerable racial resentment towad the Anglo minority, stemming from both historical factors and from perceived economic disparities. For example, the Spanish resent not only the American takeover during the War with Mexico, but the fact that previously harmonius relations with the local Pueblo Indian poopulation were disturbed by the arrival of Anglo romantics who elevated the Indians to "noble and artistic" status, while dismissing the Spanish as close-minded, backward peasants.

After a few years, I noted that while I had developed plenty of business and personal aquaintances with Spanish people, none of them became friendships, and none ever did. I asked a colleague about this -- my assistant curator, whose family was quite historically prominent in the area. Her answer? "We can be friendly...but never friends." It's a matter of trust. They just don't have it for us Anglos.

In any case, I'm not moving to Mexico to make friends, though that would be nice.
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An interesting observation. My situation is very different. My ex wife was from Mexicali, 30+ years ago we were together and her large family all live there. After my divorce my present wife lives and works in central Mexico. I worked in a DVD, CD. Video replication factory for 15 years in San Diego with over 150 Mexicans, many living in TJ and commuting daily in car pools over the years there. I have many very good Mexican friends. I get respect from most I might venture to guess because I married one way back then. My ex wife has a few very good Americana friends in SD. These are not superficial relationship but solid real friendships. I know this from big problems at work were my Mexican friends stood up for me against their paisnos on occasion.

I think generalizations do not really make a case in a valid way but do understand when you criticize too much it can be a turn off. I stopped this before it was noticed as a bad habit of mine from letting my wives guide me through the rough spots along the road and trusting their judgement over my own, which then became my "new" habit. Also coming from Canada I went through a dual culture experience that in many ways paralleled each other.

My Canadian friends appear to much more critical of Mexicans and also Americas [don't understand cultural differences] in general, than my friends in SD are of Mexicans and they also don't give a hoot about Canadians.
Good point about San Diego, Alan, and one which rightly contradicts my Taos experience -- perhaps northern New Mexico is its own special case. I lived in San Diego for ten years until 2001 and worked at San Diego Opera. I participated in cross-border business associations, visited Baja 4 or 5 times a year, helped bring the first Mexican opera to a U.S. stage, and served on the board of the Mexican Cultural Institute, an arm of the Consulate of Mexico. In fact, I did make friendships in the Mexican community, some of which survive to this day. I was dealing almost entirely with business, artistic and professional types -- all highly sophisticated and better educated than I am. I found that sincere enthusiasm and respect for Mexican culture and history helped. On the other hand, my experience with people I knew in Barrio Logan was not always so smooth; although the Opera did a lot of very positive outreach there, some barriers seemed to exist.
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