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May I know the overall experience in years to get a positive skills assessment for the occupation 262112 ICT Security Specialist. As of now, i have three years and two months of relevant and overall experience. Someone, please help me.
 

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May I know the overall experience in years to get a positive skills assessment for the occupation 262112 ICT Security Specialist. As of now, i have three years and two months of relevant and overall experience. Someone, please help me.
2 years 1 month here. Took me 36 days to get positive assessment.
 

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2 years 1 month here. Took me 36 days to get positive assessment.
It would be really great if you could share the job responsibilities.
 

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The course you studied that was assessed as relevant to your ANZSCO had a good amount of ICT Security subjects?
Yes, I have a BSc Computer Science degree with focus towards IT infrastructure and IT security. My thesis was also IT security related. So plenty of IT security related content.
 

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2 years 1 month here. Took me 36 days to get positive assessment.
can you please share your job descriptions / responsibilities, as I am also willing to apply for assessment as 262112.

Thank you.
 

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May I know the overall experience in years to get a positive skills assessment for the occupation 262112 ICT Security Specialist. As of now, i have three years and two months of relevant and overall experience. Someone, please help me.
If your education is relevant you need minimum 2 years for deduction. If education not relevant, 4 years required by ACS for deduction. Positive results depends on this.

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can you please share your job descriptions / responsibilities, as I am also willing to apply for assessment as 262112.

Thank you.
You need to use the job description of your job, not copy and paste mine. :)
 

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Yes, I have a BSc Computer Science degree with focus towards IT infrastructure and IT security. My thesis was also IT security related. So plenty of IT security related content.
I thought so because otherwise even if it were a ICT Major degree, not having sufficient course matter closely related to ICT Security would have lead to 4 years deduction.

Edit: I see that you are at 60 points only? Why? No work points (yet)? Why aren't you opting for 190 then? ICT Security being niche, there are high chances that a state (like NSW) may sponsor you with 60+5 points.
 

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I thought so because otherwise even if it were a ICT Major degree, not having sufficient course matter closely related to ICT Security would have lead to 4 years deduction.

Edit: I see that you are at 60 points only? Why? No work points (yet)? Why aren't you opting for 190 then? ICT Security being niche, there are high chances that a state (like NSW) may sponsor you with 60+5 points.
Yep, a typical CS degree would likely not be assessed as being closely related as there's too little security-, network-, operating system related content. I guess the closest to for example programming you get in the related units would be data structures, but that's about it.

Did you have 4 years deducted, KeeDa? That's pretty rough! Reading through the ACS documentation their way of assessing skills in our field feels arbitrary.

What is your degree and your job role?

From ACS ANZSCO Code Guide on 262112:

Description of Closely Related Core ICT Units:
• Computer forensics
• Data Encryption
• Database design
• Database implementation
• Database Management Systems - (Relational Database, Object Oriented Database, RDBMS)
• Information security
• Information Systems security
• Internet and the Web
• Internet forensics
• Network security
• Operating systems - (Unix, Linux, Xenix, Network OS)
• Systems Software
• Web security

Description of Additional Closely Related ICT Units:
• Backup and Recovery
• Client Server Technology
• Computer networks
• Critical Path Method
• Data Communications
• Data policy
• Data and information security
• Data structures
• Distributed Systems
• File Processing
• Introduction to ICT - (Introduction to Computer Science, Computer Theory, Introduction to Business Computing,
Computer Science I)
• Project Management
• Quality management - (Quality Assurance, Software Quality)
• Testing strategies and methods


About your question on why I went for 189 and not 190.. Yes, it may seem a little odd that I went for 189 and not 190.

The reasoning behind this is that I find the selection process of for example NSW to be somewhat arbitrary and unpredictable. I don't want to spend AUD 300 and run the risk of missing a chance of getting an 189 invite by not being chosen for whatever reason, say for example because NSW didn't find my CV desirable after lodging my "pre-invite". If I get an 189 invite my previous positions etc. won't really matter as it'll all be based on points and skills assessment, with no CV involved. I may lodge for 190 at a later stage if there is no movement at all for us 60-pointers. :)

Unfortunately I don't have any work experience points yet. But I was lucky enough to score 8.5 on IELTS giving me 20 additional points bumping me up to 60 points on the EOI.
 

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Yep, a typical CS degree would likely not be assessed as being closely related as there's too little security-, network-, operating system related content. I guess the closest to for example programming you get in the related units would be data structures, but that's about it.

Did you have 4 years deducted, KeeDa? That's pretty rough! Reading through the ACS documentation their way of assessing skills in our field feels arbitrary.

What is your degree and your job role?

From ACS ANZSCO Code Guide on 262112:

Description of Closely Related Core ICT Units:
• Computer forensics
• Data Encryption
• Database design
• Database implementation
• Database Management Systems - (Relational Database, Object Oriented Database, RDBMS)
• Information security
• Information Systems security
• Internet and the Web
• Internet forensics
• Network security
• Operating systems - (Unix, Linux, Xenix, Network OS)
• Systems Software
• Web security

Description of Additional Closely Related ICT Units:
• Backup and Recovery
• Client Server Technology
• Computer networks
• Critical Path Method
• Data Communications
• Data policy
• Data and information security
• Data structures
• Distributed Systems
• File Processing
• Introduction to ICT - (Introduction to Computer Science, Computer Theory, Introduction to Business Computing,
Computer Science I)
• Project Management
• Quality management - (Quality Assurance, Software Quality)
• Testing strategies and methods


About your question on why I went for 189 and not 190.. Yes, it may seem a little odd that I went for 189 and not 190.

The reasoning behind this is that I find the selection process of for example NSW to be somewhat arbitrary and unpredictable. I don't want to spend AUD 300 and run the risk of missing a chance of getting an 189 invite by not being chosen for whatever reason, say for example because NSW didn't find my CV desirable after lodging my "pre-invite". If I get an 189 invite my previous positions etc. won't really matter as it'll all be based on points and skills assessment, with no CV involved. I may lodge for 190 at a later stage if there is no movement at all for us 60-pointers. :)

Unfortunately I don't have any work experience points yet. But I was lucky enough to score 8.5 on IELTS giving me 20 additional points bumping me up to 60 points on the EOI.
No mate, my occupation wasn't ICT Security, but a more generic programming related- 261311 Analyst Programmer and so only 2 out of past 10 years were deducted. The reason I was curious about your case was because I haven't met anyone yet who graduated in the usual courses that universities here (in India) offer who could do away with a 2 year deduction for ICT Security Specialist ANZSCO.

Now, coming to the point about your fear and unwillingness to file 190-NSW: I think you are not aware that you can file 2 separate EOIs - like keep your current 189 EOI and file another fresh one for 190-NSW. That way, should NSW (for whatever reason you think) not accept your nomination, your 189 EOI still continues to run in parallel and untouched. This also gives you the freedom to choose when you do receive the NSW pre-invite: I mean you can then (at that time) evaluate how good your chances for 189 are in the near future and choose to go with 190 or ignore it and continue to wait for 189.

Ref: How many Expressions of Interest can I submit?
 

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No mate, my occupation wasn't ICT Security, but a more generic programming related- 261311 Analyst Programmer and so only 2 out of past 10 years were deducted. The reason I was curious about your case was because I haven't met anyone yet who graduated in the usual courses that universities here (in India) offer who could do away with a 2 year deduction for ICT Security Specialist ANZSCO.

Now, coming to the point about your fear and unwillingness to file 190-NSW: I think you are not aware that you can file 2 separate EOIs - like keep your current 189 EOI and file another fresh one for 190-NSW. That way, should NSW (for whatever reason you think) not accept your nomination, your 189 EOI still continues to run in parallel and untouched. This also gives you the freedom to choose when you do receive the NSW pre-invite: I mean you can then (at that time) evaluate how good your chances for 189 are in the near future and choose to go with 190 or ignore it and continue to wait for 189.

Ref: How many Expressions of Interest can I submit?
Oh right, I got you now. Yes, I suppose it's pretty typical that people with CS majors go into the security field and then end up loosing 4 years worth of points in the ACS skills assessment. For myself, I was quite set on my security career path from the beginning and applied to a university where I could cherry pick courses to suit my own preferences, with the lack of flexibility in some CS programmes in mind.

With 8 years of skilled experience counting towards your EOI your path must have been pretty straight forward! :) Whereabouts are you located now?

I had actually read somewhere on here that it was possible to lodge two separate EOIs for the two sub classes. But I kind of figured it was a grey zone in terms of how this would be viewed upon by DIBP. But you're saying it's completely legitimate to lodge two separate EOIs, with one for 189 and one for 190 with the same ANZSCO code? I thought this feature was mainly for people with multiple positively assessed ANZSCO codes.

Hypothetically, if the 190 EOI gets a pre-invite and the invite doesn't come through or I for some reason choose to decline, will my 189 EOI still be intact and keep me in the game?

Thank for mentioning this! I will definitely look into it closely.
 

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Oh right, I got you now. Yes, I suppose it's pretty typical that people with CS majors go into the security field and then end up loosing 4 years worth of points in the ACS skills assessment. For myself, I was quite set on my security career path from the beginning and applied to a university where I could cherry pick courses to suit my own preferences, with the lack of flexibility in some CS programmes in mind.

With 8 years of skilled experience counting towards your EOI your path must have been pretty straight forward! :) Whereabouts are you located now?

I had actually read somewhere on here that it was possible to lodge two separate EOIs for the two sub classes. But I kind of figured it was a grey zone in terms of how this would be viewed upon by DIBP. But you're saying it's completely legitimate to lodge two separate EOIs, with one for 189 and one for 190 with the same ANZSCO code? I thought this feature was mainly for people with multiple positively assessed ANZSCO codes.

Hypothetically, if the 190 EOI gets a pre-invite and the invite doesn't come through or I for some reason choose to decline, will my 189 EOI still be intact and keep me in the game?

Thank for mentioning this! I will definitely look into it closely.
Yes, you can do 2 EOIs for the same ANZSCO, and yes, your 189 will still be in game. Many have done it in the past and many are still doing it (you can go through the any of the 189 EOI Invitations awaited threads- like this one: http://www.expatforum.com/expats/au...vitations-october-2017-a-68.html#post13443602 and notice member signatures)

As for your other query about where am I located, ... I've sent you a PM.

Cheers,

Edit: Straightforward? haha! No :nono:. Although I had 75 points for 189, they do not have any influence over visa processing. It took close to 600 days from visa lodge to grant for me :D
 

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Hello friends, i have applied ICT security specialist skill assessment on 14th of September, its been 41 days already but still waiting for result. and also worried about outcomes, i studied in Australia bachelor of information system and diploma of information technology. my earlier assessment was system analyst. Good luck to myself
 

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Hello friends, i have applied ICT security specialist skill assessment on 14th of September, its been 41 days already but still waiting for result. and also worried about outcomes, i studied in Australia bachelor of information system and diploma of information technology. my earlier assessment was system analyst. Good luck to myself
hey buddy,

I have the same degree and planning to apply in ICT security ? Did you assess your degree into ICT security first?
 

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Yes, you can do 2 EOIs for the same ANZSCO, and yes, your 189 will still be in game. Many have done it in the past and many are still doing it (you can go through the any of the 189 EOI Invitations awaited threads- like this one: http://www.expatforum.com/expats/au...vitations-october-2017-a-68.html#post13443602 and notice member signatures)

As for your other query about where am I located, ... I've sent you a PM.

Cheers,

Edit: Straightforward? haha! No :nono:. Although I had 75 points for 189, they do not have any influence over visa processing. It took close to 600 days from visa lodge to grant for me :D
That's awesome, thanks for suggesting that.

600 days!? Why on earth did your process take such long time?

Btw, I've tried to reply to your message, but the web site says you are not accepting private messages.
 

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That's awesome, thanks for suggesting that.

600 days!? Why on earth did your process take such long time?

Btw, I've tried to reply to your message, but the web site says you are not accepting private messages.
Hi,
I shared 2 other ways to message me... see if you can use either of them.
 

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NOP,

i have done earlier system analyst and now ict security specialist. can u share ur units wiz me
THIS ARE MY SUBJECTS.

SYSTEMS ANALYSIS
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 1 INTRODUCTION TO MARKETING
MANAGEMENT & ORGANISATION BEHAVIOUR
ACCOUNTING FOR DECISION MAKING COMPUTER SYSTEMS

PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 2
BUSINESS LAW
Computer systems


BUSINESS STATISTICS
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 3
INTRODUCTION TO PROGRAMMING
DATABASE SYSTEMS

SYSTEMS DESIGN
ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES
ELECTRONIC COMMERCE BUSINESS INTERFACES SYSTEMS IMPLEMENTATION
THE INFORMATION PROFESSIONAL

CAREER PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
COMPUTER FUNDAMENTALS
MANAGING KNOWLEDGE
INFORMATION SYSTEMS FOR BUSINESS

WEB ENABLED BUSINESS SYSTEMS
OPERATING SYSTEM'
database technology
INTRODUCTION TO MARKETING
 

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NOP,

i have done earlier system analyst and now ict security specialist. can u share ur units wiz me
THIS ARE MY SUBJECTS.

SYSTEMS ANALYSIS
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 1 INTRODUCTION TO MARKETING
MANAGEMENT & ORGANISATION BEHAVIOUR
ACCOUNTING FOR DECISION MAKING COMPUTER SYSTEMS

PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 2
BUSINESS LAW
Computer systems


BUSINESS STATISTICS
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT 3
INTRODUCTION TO PROGRAMMING
DATABASE SYSTEMS

SYSTEMS DESIGN
ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES
ELECTRONIC COMMERCE BUSINESS INTERFACES SYSTEMS IMPLEMENTATION
THE INFORMATION PROFESSIONAL

CAREER PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
COMPUTER FUNDAMENTALS
MANAGING KNOWLEDGE
INFORMATION SYSTEMS FOR BUSINESS

WEB ENABLED BUSINESS SYSTEMS
OPERATING SYSTEM'
database technology
INTRODUCTION TO MARKETING
I had something similar, and 4 years were deducted.
 
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