[maxwellmouse]

Hi again,ok a discussion has been going on here (at home in uk,in my kitchen)re;care of the elderly (ex pats) if required ? Do the Spanish expect you to sell your property to pay for this ? I'm sure here in the uk if you own your property you are required to sell it, I might be wrong ? I'm not looking at residential care for quite a few years yet I hope!!!?? But its worth knowing

 

[xabiaxica]

Hi again,ok a discussion has been going on here (at home in uk,in my kitchen)re;care of the elderly (ex pats) if required ? Do the Spanish expect you to sell your property to pay for this ? I'm sure here in the uk if you own your property you are required to sell it, I might be wrong ? I'm not looking at residential care for quite a few years yet I hope!!!?? But its worth knowing

I don't know how good your spanish is, but I have just found this

Salud: Ingreso en una residencia

it doesn't say anything about selling your property as far as I can see - but it looks as if, in the event that you can secure a place in a public 'residencia', you will be expected to hand over 65-85% of your income. For a private one you'll be paying somewhere in the region of 1500€ a month

Así los centros públicos pueden venir a cobrar entre un 65 y un 85% de los ingresos anuales. Este porcentaje deberá garantizar que la cuantía resultante no supere el coste establecido y que el usuario dispondrá de una cantidad para gastos personales. Los residencias privadas marcarán sus propios precios: se puede hablar de 1500 euros de media al mes.

 

[maxwellmouse]

Hi,thanks for that.

 

[Calas felices]

Elderly Care

There is very little care in Spain as they expect the family to do the lion's share (along with a number of other European countries). That which there is, is means tested which means it mostly goes to the Spanish.

 

[Pesky Wesky]

I don't know, but I would imagine this goes along the lines of unemployment benefit in that if you haven't paid into the system you wouldn't be able to access a place in a public residential home - you'd have to go private.
Any information on this? Any ideas

 

[xabiaxica]

I don't know, but I would imagine this goes along the lines of unemployment benefit in that if you haven't paid into the system you wouldn't be able to access a place in a public residential home - you'd have to go private.
Any information on this? Any ideas

that would make sense to me - the website I linked to gives lots of info, but I have to admit I haven't ploughed through it all

it does say that the residents have to have lived in the area for a qualifying period of a number of years, but nothing about having paid into the system

googletranslation

The requirements to be met for admission must be consulted in the establishment in question.

As a guide, (the rules of each Autonomous Community is this sense varies) the conditions to be met are as follows:
Doctor examining patient

age being over 65 years. If a pensioner's hadad access could be in the 60. If the pensioner suffers physical or mental disability this information will vary.
Residence: refers to the habitat in the locality where the center is located. The regions usually require a minimum number of years of registration to be eligible for admission.
Not require continued hospital care, or be in a terminal situation.
Not having been expelled from other schools.
Cope with the monthly payment.
Do not have behavioral problems that seriously disrupt the normal coexistence.
For access to residences or public places concerted regional governments have adopted and published a few scales that determine the degree of dependence or valimiento of an older person.

 

[Pesky Wesky]

that would make sense to me - the website I linked to gives lots of info, but I have to admit I haven't ploughed through it all

Hehehehe - me neither

 

[xabiaxica]

Hehehehe - me neither

haha - I just found the relevant bit & edited my post in between answering the phone, giving directions to my house etc. etc.....

 

[jojo]

I worked in an expat nursing home in Spain for a while and it wasnt cheap, it was private and yes, if you hadnt got funds available the you had to sell your property

Jo xxx

 

[xabiaxica]

I worked in an expat nursing home in Spain for a while and it wasnt cheap, it was private and yes, if you hadnt got funds available the you had to sell your property

Jo xxx

yes, obviously, you have to pay for it somehow

I think the OP meant if you were in a state run home, though

 

[anles]

that would make sense to me - the website I linked to gives lots of info, but I have to admit I haven't ploughed through it all

it does say that the residents have to have lived in the area for a qualifying period of a number of years, but nothing about having paid into the system

googletranslation

Not have been expelled from other schools???

 

[Pesky Wesky]

Not have been expelled from other schools???

It's a Google translation, not meant to be taken too seriously...

 

[xabiaxica]

Not have been expelled from other schools???

:rofl::rofl:

I didn't even look at the googletranslation - just picked out what I thought were the important bits from the original!!

 

[anles]

It's a Google translation, not meant to be taken too seriously...

No, I don't think you can take google translation seriously but it does give you a laugh.

 

[maxwellmouse]

Hi,thanks for all your replies. Don't need it yet,but the more info you have - the better. .....max

 

[fergie]

There is also some type of private homecare service for expat infirm clients, there is a mid eighties lady down our road, a widow, and the home carer's come in to look after her personal needs, and sometimes walk her up the road with her zimmer frame, they call in 2-3 times a day.
I remember seeing an advert in one of these homecare companies advertised in one of the free news papers for this type of care, I presume it is one of these companies she uses.

 

[xabiaxica]

There is also some type of private homecare service for expat infirm clients, there is a mid eighties lady down our road, a widow, and the home carer's come in to look after her personal needs, and sometimes walk her up the road with her zimmer frame, they call in 2-3 times a day.
I remember seeing an advert in one of these homecare companies advertised in one of the free news papers for this type of care, I presume it is one of these companies she uses.

yes, there are quite a lot of these private companies around, they don't come cheap though

 

[Pesky Wesky]

There is also some type of private homecare service for expat infirm clients, there is a mid eighties lady down our road, a widow, and the home carer's come in to look after her personal needs, and sometimes walk her up the road with her zimmer frame, they call in 2-3 times a day.
I remember seeing an advert in one of these homecare companies advertised in one of the free news papers for this type of care, I presume it is one of these companies she uses.

I'm sure there are various schemes around the country; I know there is an "English" residence in Madrid, but the offer and availability would vary around the country. I can't see much being on offer for elderly British immigrants in Logroño or Cuenca for example.

 

[Alcalaina]

The Ayuntamiento are building a massive residential complex for old people right in the middle of our village. It will accommodate 80 people. It's a bit of a cuckoo in the nest physically because it towers over the other buildings, but I think it's really nice that the old folks will still be close to their family, shops and bars and not stuck on a green-field site in the middle of nowhere.

I assume it will be state funded and subsidised because nobody here has got any money!

 

[maxwellmouse]

more jobs for the area

Hi,in reply to post about the new care home. Thats good,if they are looking at that many residents,its going to create a fair few jobs for the area,good luck to them!!:clap2: