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Hello Freinds

I received an invitation visa 189 and I have inquiry regarding rejecting any secondary applicant

In the case of any secondary applicant fail to provide medicals or PCC or any other documents; does it will affect on all other applicant and the visa may be rejected?


Thanks in advance
 

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Hello Freinds

I received an invitation visa 189 and I have inquiry regarding rejecting any secondary applicant

In the case of any secondary applicant fail to provide medicals or PCC or any other documents; does it will affect on all other applicant and the visa may be rejected?


Thanks in advance
Yes, the application would be rejected. All applicants (whether migrating or non-migrating family members) have to provide medicals and depending on age, PCC's. :)
 

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Hello Freinds

I received an invitation visa 189 and I have inquiry regarding rejecting any secondary applicant

In the case of any secondary applicant fail to provide medicals or PCC or any other documents; does it will affect on all other applicant and the visa may be rejected?


Thanks in advance


Medicals and PCC are listed as part of their requirements for all the applicants irrespective of primary or secondary applicant. Which is the other document(s) you have mentioned here?
 

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I guess his question is if the primary applicant passed PCC and Medical but the secondary failed Medical for example. Does it mean
- all family get rejected
or
- the primary + dependent children get PR granted, but the secondary applicant will be rejected

Has anyone been through this similar case to advise?
 
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I guess his question is if the primary applicant passed PCC and Medical but the secondary failed Medical for example. Does it mean
- all family get rejected
or
- the primary + dependent children get PR granted, but the secondary applicant will be rejected

Has anyone been through this similar case to advise?


Good question to begin with. I think they view your application in totality. They wouldn't grant residency to the first & deny it to the second. Would be interesting to hear if someone has any experience on it?
 

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Hello Freinds

I received an invitation visa 189 and I have inquiry regarding rejecting any secondary applicant

In the case of any secondary applicant fail to provide medicals or PCC or any other documents; does it will affect on all other applicant and the visa may be rejected?


Thanks in advance
if a secondary applicant is not able to provide documents and is adamant not to provide then the visa application will be rejected as whole for all the applicants inside that visa application
 
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Good question to begin with. I think they view your application in totality. They wouldn't grant residency to the first & deny it to the second. Would be interesting to hear if someone has any experience on it?
Correct. They operate a "one fail - all fail" approach. You can imagine the heat they'd get if they split families.
 
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I guess his question is if the primary applicant passed PCC and Medical but the secondary failed Medical for example. Does it mean
- all family get rejected
or
- the primary + dependent children get PR granted, but the secondary applicant will be rejected

Has anyone been through this similar case to advise?
There is no leeway for DIBP in this situation at all.

DIBP can not grant one or more applicants while another family member in the same application fails the medical.

However, eng.mhallak actually asked what happened if an applicant failed to provide medicals or other required documents.

In either case, if after being asked again, the requirement is still not met (if one person fails to provide the required evidence, or does not pass the health and character requirements) , the whole application can not be granted and will be refused.
 

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Thank you all for your replies

The truth is I have widow mother " 68 " and I'm her only son " 3 " sisters married
I've read a lot about that you can't add parents in your application and I want to add my mother and support my case with massive evidence and maybe a letter for case officer for help

Since I got invitation I'm very confused regarding my Mother situation; Also I don't want that all the efforts and money I've paid and I will pay to be lost

That is the reason for the question in the case that my mother rejected this will cause that Me and My wife will be rejected too?

Thank you all friends
 

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Thank you all for your replies

The truth is I have widow mother " 68 " and I'm her only son " 3 " sisters married
I've read a lot about that you can't add parents in your application and I want to add my mother and support my case with massive evidence and maybe a letter for case officer for help

Since I got invitation I'm very confused regarding my Mother situation; Also I don't want that all the efforts and money I've paid and I will pay to be lost

That is the reason for the question in the case that my mother rejected this will cause that Me and My wife will be rejected too?

Thank you all friends
You can't add your mother to your application: https://www.border.gov.au/Migrationagents/Pages/member-of-family-unit.aspx

If you did mistakenly add her to your application, DIBP will ask you to withdraw her from the application, or they will refuse the whole application.

To apply for a Parent Visa, you need to have 2 years residence in Australia AND you mother needs to meet the "Balance of Family" test, which means she would need 2 of her for children to be living in Australia permanently.

There should be a new Temporary Parent Visa being introduced at the end of the year. However, this is for a maximum of 5 years, extendable to 10 years but not renewable after that, (so she'd have to leave then, or get another visa) and you need to be an Australian Permanent Resident for 4 years before you could be her sponsor for this visa anyway. There are some serious issues to consider with this option anyway : http://www.expatforum.com/expats/au...5098-tbc-temporary-sponsored-parent-visa.html

Otherwise the only visa possible would be a Visitor Visa - normally the maximum duration for these is 12 months in an 18 month period so you can't stay permanently, need Private Health Insurance, and you can't assume automatic renewal time after time with these as they are not designed for permanent residence.
 

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Thank you all for your replies

The truth is I have widow mother " 68 " and I'm her only son " 3 " sisters married
I've read a lot about that you can't add parents in your application and I want to add my mother and support my case with massive evidence and maybe a letter for case officer for help

Since I got invitation I'm very confused regarding my Mother situation; Also I don't want that all the efforts and money I've paid and I will pay to be lost

That is the reason for the question in the case that my mother rejected this will cause that Me and My wife will be rejected too?

Thank you all friends
I can fully comprehend your situation. Valid points from Kaju. I guess way to go about is to first secure a residency yourself. You have come this far, don't let it fade away.
They may introduce some new parent visa policies soon. However, the only option for now after you are secured is a visitor's visa for your mom. Also, keep an eye on the parent visa requirements if any changes are announced!

Wish you luck in the rest of your application! :)
 

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You can't add your mother to your application: https://www.border.gov.au/Migrationagents/Pages/member-of-family-unit.aspx

If you did mistakenly add her to your application, DIBP will ask you to withdraw her from the application, or they will refuse the whole application.

To apply for a Parent Visa, you need to have 2 years residence in Australia AND you mother needs to meet the "Balance of Family" test, which means she would need 2 of her for children to be living in Australia permanently.

There should be a new Temporary Parent Visa being introduced at the end of the year. However, this is for a maximum of 5 years, extendable to 10 years but not renewable after that, (so she'd have to leave then, or get another visa) and you need to be an Australian Permanent Resident for 4 years before you could be her sponsor for this visa anyway. There are some serious issues to consider with this option anyway : http://www.expatforum.com/expats/au...5098-tbc-temporary-sponsored-parent-visa.html

Otherwise the only visa possible would be a Visitor Visa - normally the maximum duration for these is 12 months in an 18 month period so you can't stay permanently, need Private Health Insurance, and you can't assume automatic renewal time after time with these as they are not designed for permanent residence.

Dear Mr. Kaju i didn't add my mother on my application yet; i'm waiting and watching the answers till big move

I will take you advice and spend 2 years in Australia and try to convince my mother to stay in one of my sister's home till I can bring her to Australia

thanks a lot for your caring
 

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I can fully comprehend your situation. Valid points from Kaju. I guess way to go about is to first secure a residency yourself. You have come this far, don't let it fade away.
They may introduce some new parent visa policies soon. However, the only option for now after you are secured is a visitor's visa for your mom. Also, keep an eye on the parent visa requirements if any changes are announced!

Wish you luck in the rest of your application! :)
Thanks Mr. Shets for your reply i is very useful
As a Syrian I have to secure another home instead of Syria
 

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Dear Mr. Kaju i didn't add my mother on my application yet; i'm waiting and watching the answers till big move

I will take you advice and spend 2 years in Australia and try to convince my mother to stay in one of my sister's home till I can bring her to Australia

thanks a lot for your caring
wish you good luck, may you get success in this journey
 
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