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I think I can't operate two different businesses under one AE SIRET number, but would like to know how to organize them? I'm already registered under AE as an English teacher but also make and sell craft items so would also need to register as an artisan. How best to do this please? There's so much info out there its hard to filter it all out! Anyone with ideas or have you already done something similar?
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I think this is the info you need Les activités mixtes en auto-entrepreneur
Unfortunately, daft as may seem, you have to accept that in France some things just aren't possible/aren't worth doing. It's no use deciding you 'need' to do something if there is no mechanism for doing it. You have to start at the other end, find out what the rules say you can do and then choose the best option.
Thinking outside the box, if you find you can't combine the two activities you want to do, could you perhaps do your English teaching via chèque emploi instead of as an AE?
 

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As far as I know, you aren't allowed to have two AE's - you have to pick one or the other activity and go with that.
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Thanks, I will look at the link you suggest.
OK, so if I changed onto the cheque emploi system, do I just stop the teaching AE and restart another for the craft?
I'd need to find out how to get into the cheque emploi system too of course!
I'm not disagreeing with you, but it doesn't make sense to have to pick only one activity - loads of people must have more than one 'job' that don't come under the same umbrella, surely? It would mean that I'm not allowed to do the craft - but if I did continue then I would be breaking the tax laws!
 

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OK, I have looked at that link - it seems to make sense, so I can contact them to 'update' me.
Thanks for your help!
 

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Thanks, I will look at the link you suggest.
OK, so if I changed onto the cheque emploi system, do I just stop the teaching AE and restart another for the craft?
Yep I think you can. You can't close one business and immediately start another very similar one, but if it's a totally different activity I think you can. But check, IF they don't let you combine the activities.

it doesn't make sense to have to pick only one activity - loads of people must have more than one 'job' that don't come under the same umbrella, surely?
I once asked the lady at URSSAF about this, and she seemed to think it made sense - if people were allowed to run 2 different 'entreprises individuelles', it would mean they're not giving their full attention to either of them. :confused:

It would mean that I'm not allowed to do the craft - but if I did continue then I would be breaking the tax laws!
Selling 'on the black' isn't a good idea - you're too visible!
 

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I think I can't operate two different businesses under one AE SIRET number, but would like to know how to organize them? I'm already registered under AE as an English teacher but also make and sell craft items so would also need to register as an artisan.
Well I'm not a AE specialist but I'm pretty sure your first sentence is wrong so no need to go further.
Imho what you have to do, is to declare your new activity and make sure to the 2 cumulated activities don't go over the allowed turnover.

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If you look at the AE portal site Portail officiel des auto-entrepreneurs I believe it says somewhere that it's only one AE to a person. What I suspect this is about is that an AE is either supposed to be a "side business" to your regular means of making a living (and so you register as an AE primarily in order to make sure you pay your share of cotisations on the side business), or a genuine attempt at a start-up that will grow to a "real business" within a few years, complete with full business registration, cotisations and VAT registration.
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It is only one AE to a person, but you can combine different services or activities within the one AE registration, if you look at the link, you choose the "primary" service and then add subsidiary offerings. They do not need to be related. So you can be registered as a teacher for your primary classification but add making and selling craft items as a commercial secondary activity.
 

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There's a nasty little wrinkle though because if your main activity is profession libérale under CIPAV, all your income including income for the commercial activity is liable to cotisations at 21,3%. For some reason you don't pay the lower cotisation on achat-vente. Whereas if your main activity is prof lib under RSI, you can. Ours is not to reason why.
 
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