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I am trying to decide whether Phil. or Thailand would be a better place to retire.
What's your opinion?
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Read every credible piece of information about each that you can find but be very sure to visit both a few times before deciding.

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Depends if u have a woman or not. The women in the Philippines are simply wonderful. Beautiful, and fun to be with. But the Filipino culture leaves a lot to be desired and in most respects I prefer Thailand - better infrastucture, much cleaner, better food (imho) and lower housing cost. That said the Thai people aren't as warm as Filipinos and there is that pesky language barrier, but I can deal with that. If I didn't have a woman in the Philippines I'd be retired in Thailand.
 

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About all you can do is try to get yourself educated as much as possible on both your options and then make a decision. That decision does not have to be permanent either. Each of us is here for some of the same reasons and some different reasons, it has to be a personal decision that only you can make. Good luck.

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I am trying to decide whether Phil. or Thailand would be a better place to retire.
What's your opinion?
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Mark
Hi Mark,
You must have some knowledge of both countries, the food, the ladies or if partnered their choice also. I/we love both countries but the better half is Filipino so the answer for us is simple.
There are some members here that spent many years in Thailand that have moved to PH and enjoy, each to their own and honestly the only way to get your answers come from lots of research and boots on the ground. Ask Thai and Filipino expats from different sites as you are doing here.

All the input so far from other members holds merit, this is not a 5 minute debate/decision and as we do, read and read more, experience and experience again. My choice is 6 years in the making, others less many longer.
Good luck with your post and read, take heed, enjoy and prosper.

Cheers, Steve.
 

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Thanks for your replies.

Yes,there are many things to consider.
I am just beginning my education in regards to the two options,not sure if there's a third option?
There are many differences with the two options plus and minus on both sides.
I have found that Youtube videos are very helpful.
I think it's hard to judge with things like this if one person gives an example of one bad/good experience that they had without explaining if this is typical or not [anecdotal] so you have to keep going to find out the likely possibilities going forward.
 

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Thanks for your replies.

Yes,there are many things to consider.
I am just beginning my education in regards to the two options,not sure if there's a third option?
There are many differences with the two options plus and minus on both sides.
I have found that Youtube videos are very helpful.
I think it's hard to judge with things like this if one person gives an example of one bad/good experience that they had without explaining if this is typical or not [anecdotal] so you have to keep going to find out the likely possibilities going forward.
Hi Mark,
I gather you live in Thailand or have lived from your locale posted here. There are dozens of countries to retire/live but it's up to the individual to make these choices based on experiences first and plenty of research to follow. One of the reasons we are all here, the banter, the misinformation, (that we weed through) the real information and a sense of belonging.

A point I take in this and other sites is there are far more experienced and worldly compatriots willing to help/supply information when one asks the right questions with appropriate data, throw their two bobs worth in. Specific questions gain individuals experiences, left field questions leave many members not contributing to what should be a family discussion.

Ask and ask again, the info filters through, unique situations/legal go on forever and depending on ones situation oft times requires an attorney here in PH. Ask your specific questions both here and Thai sites and formulate your own opinion.

An affiliation with a Thai, Filipino or what ever country holds sway, single go this way, partnered go that way. There is plenty of info on this site when one delves, old and new but relevant and plenty of answers are there for the taking. As I do and others, research and research more, visit and visit again. Ask and ask again.

Good luck with your delving Mark, I and all here wish you a fortuitous answer post haste.

Cheers, Steve.

Golly another long winded reply.
 

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Hi Mark,
You must have some knowledge of both countries, the food, the ladies or if partnered their choice also. I/we love both countries but the better half is Filipino so the answer for us is simple.
There are some members here that spent many years in Thailand that have moved to PH and enjoy, each to their own and honestly the only way to get your answers come from lots of research and boots on the ground. Ask Thai and Filipino expats from different sites as you are doing here.

All the input so far from other members holds merit, this is not a 5 minute debate/decision and as we do, read and read more, experience and experience again. My choice is 6 years in the making, others less many longer.
Good luck with your post and read, take heed, enjoy and prosper.

Cheers, Steve.
Hi Mark,
I agree with Steve on this. I have just moved to Philippines after 8 y ears in Thailand (Pattaya), so my experiences are very new and relevant.
There is no doubt that the living standard is higher in Pattaya but I have moved to the province here, so there is less infrastructure here than say Angeles which would be a proper comparison to Pattaya. But again Angeles is on a smaller scale.
I did not want to get into another similar atmosphere, so Angeles was not on my radar.
I have to say that in the main, I am pleased to have made the move in coming to North Luzon. The people are much friendlier and helpful (except when you go to the shops, when they are all mostly asleep) much the same as Thailand!
Local food here is quite ordinary as Steve has said in comparison to Thailand. Having said that we went to a lovely restauranta couple of nights ago and had a great meal for 2 for 450 pesos, including a couple of beers and water for partner. Great service, pleasant and attentive - rarely get that in Thailand.
Filipino woman overall are much better propositions to Thais and I have again experienced both. Though you must understand there is good and bad in both, but more good in Philippines. I consider Thai women more of a risk than Filipinos by a long way.
Life here in the province is much quieter although where we are is quite a large city. Adequate shopping facilities, hospitals, other medical services, so you don't miss out on that much. It gets better in the large cities of course.
Accommodation here is cheaper than Pattaya but properties often fall short of expectations, so plenty of feet on the ground work needed here. We decided to buy a small house, more than adequate for our needs and way cheaper than say Pattaya.
Great markets nearby, English is spoken but it is not fluent by any means, however, much easier than Thailand that I found quite hard work.
Visas easier here and it will only get worse in Thailand, thus why many expats have up camp and came to Philippines/Vietnam etc. Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks for all the interesting replies.
Mogo51
What's the problem with Thai visas?
What do you mean"Thai women are more of a risk?

I saw a video the other day about Phil. shopping and was surprised at how expensive some items were considering the fact that the locals make typically US$7 per day but your 450 pesos dinner for 2 is amazing value maybe it depends on whether or not the item is imported.
So English isn't spoken much in rural Thailand i'm thinking?

Big Pearl.
No I live in Australia but I couldn't see an option on this website to indicate that.

One thing I notice is that there are many more expats in Thailand
What are the best ways to meet expats in Thailand and Phil.?
I think meetup.com would work well , any other ideas?
I like Philippino's and Thai's but it's true Phil. is more friendly not saying Thai's are unfriendly but Philippinos are super extroverts.
 

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Thanks for all the interesting replies.
Mogo51
What's the problem with Thai visas?
What do you mean"Thai women are more of a risk?

I saw a video the other day about Phil. shopping and was surprised at how expensive some items were considering the fact that the locals make typically US$7 per day but your 450 pesos dinner for 2 is amazing value maybe it depends on whether or not the item is imported.
So English isn't spoken much in rural Thailand i'm thinking?

Big Pearl.
No I live in Australia but I couldn't see an option on this website to indicate that.

One thing I notice is that there are many more expats in Thailand
What are the best ways to meet expats in Thailand and Phil.?
I think meetup.com would work well , any other ideas?
I like Philippino's and Thai's but it's true Phil. is more friendly not saying Thai's are unfriendly but Philippinos are super extroverts.
I had 8 years in Thailand mainly Pattaya but spent a short period in the Provinces. English virtually nil there except from other expats. Nothing to do and all day to do it.
Cost of living cheaper in the Provinces mainly because there is nothing to spend it on.

Thai women are ruthless - there are some exceptions, but not many. There are some ruthless types of Filipina women also, but as I have said, there are a lot more decent ones around and English is more prevalent.

I am still doing an overview on the cost of living between the two countries, but there is no doubt it is cheaper in Philippines. We had a very large grocery shop last week and it included a bottle of scotch, bottle of gin and 4 stubbies of beer for me, cost 2700 pesos ($68au), try doing that in Sydney!!!
The same shop in Thailand would be 3,500 to 4k bht in Thailand.
If you think imported goods are expensive in Phils, which they can be, wait to you see the prices in Thailand. They have just put up alcohol prices (mainly imported wines etc) by 100 bht bottle and they are already exorbitant ie. Jacobs Creek $22au bottle!!!
From what I have seen so far, Philippines is up to 40% cheaper than Thailand, thanks largely to the exchange rates 40pesos to $au, 26 bht to $au.

Visa requirements are being tightened by Thailand, more requirements regarding proof of income (none in Phils), More money requirements and they have not finished yet. in Phils, at least you are welcome, in Thailand, they would prefer you to leave your wallet at the airport and go back home.
 

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Thanks for all the interesting replies.
Mogo51
What's the problem with Thai visas?
What do you mean"Thai women are more of a risk?

I saw a video the other day about Phil. shopping and was surprised at how expensive some items were considering the fact that the locals make typically US$7 per day but your 450 pesos dinner for 2 is amazing value maybe it depends on whether or not the item is imported.
So English isn't spoken much in rural Thailand i'm thinking?

Big Pearl.
No I live in Australia but I couldn't see an option on this website to indicate that.

One thing I notice is that there are many more expats in Thailand
What are the best ways to meet expats in Thailand and Phil.?
I think meetup.com would work well , any other ideas?
I like Philippino's and Thai's but it's true Phil. is more friendly not saying Thai's are unfriendly but Philippinos are super extroverts.
I love both countries, many others also and could live in either or others but as said the better half is Filipino and becomes a choice based on negotiations and acceptable living standards and comfort zones. So for myself and probably many others on the Philippines expat site, Thai expat sites or even the Laos expat site, there are reasons why expats choose to live in or chose to live in/retire to that a particular country.
Love firstly from all I have read and applies to me while others choose these third world or developing nations to suit financial needs, lifestyle choices etc.

Meetup.com is a great site and an excellent way to meet people in any country, Manila if you want to live there has dozens of choices from food, photography, walking etc. No different to Bangkok or any other major cities around the world, good place to start if one chooses to live in that situation.

Wages, food, white goods, electronics, property prices or rent. Forgot to mention cars.
Research. Probably why you are here. What parts of the Phills have you been to so far? Many members can contribute with regards to particular areas that you may be considering.

Good luck and keep the questions rolling, also search this and other sites to find answers.

Cheers, Steve.
 

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I think it's easy to make generalities about these things but I haven't got the impression that they don't like westerners.
I have been watching Youtube videos from a user called "notime2bsad" and he was proving that point in one of his videos I was watching recently.
As regards the women,many of them on dating website have a narrow age range that their interested in so wouldn't do that if they were only interested in money.
So i'm curious about "Thai and Phil. women are ruthless" but it would be good to hear why and also is this typical or exceptional?
 

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That's really interesting that they are advertising for it,I guess it makes sense that it's a positive for their economy.
Was this ad in an American newspaper?
 

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There will come a time when the Philippines will be "discovered" just like Hawaii and many other places were way back when. This advertising is just the beginning of it. With many of our home countries floundering and yet others being torn apart by politically driven agendas, more and more people will look for better, more peaceful, secure, and low cost places to retire.

When that fully happens we can kiss goodbye all that we have enjoyed in life here; especially the affordability of it all. Goods and services will become more available and that's a good thing but the prices will reflect the changes in the country.
Look at Boracay Island and other places here. It has become so commercialised that it's almost unaffordable for many vacationers and most locals that worked and help to build the hotels and resorts can no longer afford to live there at all.

I'm 65yrs old and will likely not live to see it. But others will see the place and wish they had lived here when it was "like it use to be" -- affordable.
 

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I think it's easy to make generalities about these things but I haven't got the impression that they don't like westerners.
I have been watching Youtube videos from a user called "notime2bsad" and he was proving that point in one of his videos I was watching recently.
As regards the women,many of them on dating website have a narrow age range that their interested in so wouldn't do that if they were only interested in money.
So i'm curious about "Thai and Phil. women are ruthless" but it would be good to hear why and also is this typical or exceptional?
My experiences in Thailand is we are not really noticed as there are soooooo many westerners there, in the back blocks we become a novelty, Phillipines the same. I will ask a question and it is none of my business but have you travelled to and spent time in either country? As said by me and plenty of others, "boots on the ground" smell the pollution, the drains, the idiotic bureaucracy, the cooking, the people, the lifestyles.

Cheers, Steve.
 

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There will come a time when the Philippines will be "discovered" just like Hawaii and many other places were way back when. This advertising is just the beginning of it. With many of our home countries floundering and yet others being torn apart by politically driven agendas, more and more people will look for better, more peaceful, secure, and low cost places to retire.

When that fully happens we can kiss goodbye all that we have enjoyed in life here; especially the affordability of it all. Goods and services will become more available and that's a good thing but the prices will reflect the changes in the country.
Look at Boracay Island and other places here. It has become so commercialised that it's almost unaffordable for many vacationers and most locals that worked and help to build the hotels and resorts can no longer afford to live there at all.

I'm 65yrs old and will likely not live to see it. But others will see the place and wish they had lived here when it was "like it use to be" -- affordable.

This is so true Jet Lag and it will probably come quicker than we expect. I am a year older than you and agree, we will probably not see it that much, but living costs do continue to increase no matter where you live.
But indeed we are fortunate that it is still rather lay back here in Philippines.
 
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