Just google it + Malaga and it comes up, but why don't you use Spanish organic???I really need to find a source of Doves farm organic flour, anyone seen it in the Malaga - Motril area? looking for bread flour and pasta flour in particular
I was hoping you'd answer :clap2:Just google it + Malaga and it comes up, but why don't you use Spanish organic???
Available in herbolarios, Carrefour, Alcampo... If you find a local supplier you'll find another "contact", and it'll be even more "organic"!
Hmm, perhaps you're right. I'll have a look the next time I'm in Carrefour, although we have a Carrefour Planet which may carry more stock anyway.I've never seen organic flour in Carrefour, Alcampo etc
Uhhh, noTried all over the place to get Spanish ORGANIC pasta flour! Spanish bread flour is easier to get hold but I prefer Doves Farm, anything wrong with that?
there are quite a lot of Spanish online stores which carry Doves Farm products - I only had a brief look & didn't see flour, but here's one - if you spend more time on it than I did you might have more luckTried all over the place to get Spanish ORGANIC pasta flour! Spanish bread flour is easier to get hold but I prefer Doves Farm, anything wrong with that?
Organic farming doesn't use synthetic chemicals which means that production harms the envirnment less and therefore us less too. Water supplies are less likely to be contaminated from the run off. Animal care is different too as antibiotics are not routinely given as they are in "normal" supply chains. Nor are homones given. They are also given far better conditions in terms of space, food, time outside... Also no gentically modified foods are used, which is common practice nowadays in the current food chain.Whats the difference in food value between standard flour the the organic stuff you pay through the nose for?
I think it's like anything else - there are some ripoff merchants, there are some honest producers. There are some things that don't see a big turnover so they are left on the shelf too long. There are some people who'll put eco organic on anything they see (much like in the past people would use Italy to sell clothes) and there is also some very good stuff to be found. If you're interested in it and you have a minimum of intelligence you can easily see what's good and what isn't. For example until about 18 months ago the legislation in Spain about putting the prefix Eco on anything or Bio was very lax. So there were some dietry aids called Biocentury (now called Bicentury strangely enough). Would really expect that kind of product, marketed in the way it was marketed, to be ecological/ organic/ "green"? Many yoghurts had to change their names too including I seem to remember Activia. But those products, if you read the labels didn't contain anything different from other similar products. What's more they contained chemical additives so how could they be what they professed to be? If you're interested you'll find out about makes and brands (Like biscome and his/ her flour) that you can trust, just like a DIYer will find a type of paint to rely on. It's easy to find out about these things and read up on it if you want, but I suspect that you don't, having already made your mind up on it.I wish I could believe the hype surrounding the organic industry ... I don't. I look at some of the tat on sale in shops at ludicrously high prices and despair. I like good meat, use a local butcher, some of the meat is organic and spend about £50 a week with him, but the veg and other organic food products I've no faith in, no healthier, lots of urban myths banded about all helping maximise the profits in what I see as a quack industry. If it floats your boat then go with it, personally I think most of the organic movement is a con.
As far as I understand it organic food has nothing to do with bottled water nor dried milk (Aquabon (Pepsi) and Nestlé perhaps??)In years to come people will look back on the late 20th early 21st century and see images of supermarket isles full of bottles of water from France, Italy, UK etc then see images of people a couple of thousand miles away dying from having no access to clean water.
They will see talk of the organic movement in Europe, a movement advocating food production that if taken on across the board would not produce enough food to feed Europe and at the same time see images of babies a couple of thousand miles away dying in droves because they can’t even get dried milk.
The organic idea is not a sustainable one for a global approach to feeding us, those people in the future will think what a self indulgent bunch many were back in the day.
Its an indulgence, a band wagon I’m not prepared to jump on.
You probably won't drop dead from eating non organic food, and I didn't suggest that you would, did I? However the chemicals used in food are often found to be non beneficial to say the least and may exacerbate certain illnesses and conditions. They, in many cases, are just something unnecessary and are something more for your body to eliminate. In other cases like the hormones and drugs used to create super chickens and cows they are harmful.The water and free to choose 'organic' food V being dead from bad water and starvation was just a way of demonstrating the indulgence of it and to a degree the western way of life.
If all intensive farming was binned we'd not be able to feed ourselves. You won't drop dead eating 'normal' veg and fruit and as a meat eater I really don't care how the chickens live, if I cared I'd not eat meat. Just because foghorn leghorn has lived in a field does not stop him getting 'murdered' so I can cook him now does it? I doubt he lays back at night counting the days to his death thinking how nice the field was. No nutritional benefit from eating organic veg, in fact organic veg is often lower because its been sitting on the shelf of farmer Giles organic farm market loosing its vitamin content by the day.
I too will indulge my fancies from time to time, enjoy salt marsh Lamb for instance but by and large I've no faith in the organic movement, its a money maker for the producer selling to the gullible public. Just my opinion