[agua642]

Hi, I've heard through the grapevine that there is a new NIE info, something to do with every 3 months! Having to re register, does this apply if one has already got NIE ? also I thought residencia NIE wasn't needed anymore , as long as one has a valid EU passport!!

 

[mrypg9]

Hi, I've heard through the grapevine that there is a new NIE info, something to do with every 3 months! Having to re register, does this apply if one has already got NIE ? also I thought residencia NIE wasn't needed anymore , as long as one has a valid EU passport!!

Someone should write a booklet entitled 'Things You Hear on The Grapevine in Spain'.....

The only firm answer I can give is that yes, one requires a NIE/Residencia as well as a passport in order to be able to do many things in Spain. One should also register on the padron.

I can only imagine the chaos and confusion if it were the case that NIEs have to be renewed every three months.

The only worthwhile thing that comes from grapevines is.....wine.

 

[xabiaxica]

Someone should write a booklet entitled 'Things You Hear on The Grapevine in Spain'.....

The only firm answer I can give is that yes, one requires a NIE/Residencia as well as a passport in order to be able to do many things in Spain. One should also register on the padron.

I can only imagine the chaos and confusion if it were the case that NIEs have to be renewed every three months.

The only worthwhile thing that comes from grapevines is.....wine.

exactly

your NIE number is for life


if you live here you have to sign on the resident list after 90 days - & of course the padrón

some places are issuing credit card sized 'resident certs' now

here's a recent discussion

http://www.expatforum.com/expats/spain-expat-forum-expats-living-spain/105305-residence.html

 

[Pesky Wesky]

Un certificado de empadronamiento is usually valid for three months. The empadronamiento itself doesn't usually need to be renewed if you are from the EU.
The NIE number, as xabia has said is for life.

 

[xabiaxica]

Un certificado de empadronamiento is usually valid for three months. The empadronamiento itself doesn't usually need to be renewed if you are from the EU.
The NIE number, as xabia has said is for life.

yes - if you need a certificado de empadronamiento for proof of address or whatever they do usually ask for one less than 3 months old - & you only have to renew if you move - although our local ayuntamiento has been chasing up people to 'renew' after 5 years - I guess just to be sure they are still there - I've heard of other areas doing the same, too


there is some confusion though - the OP isn't the first to think they need to renew their NIE/resident cert. after 90 days :confused2:

 

[PND]

I hesitate to take issue with someone called 'Senior Expat' - but I have just received my NIE and it clearly states on the bottom of the letter that it is only valid for 3 months. As I understand it I have to get another in 3 months time.
It is all very confusing out here! Still not sure if I am legally allowed to drive my UK registered car for 3 months or for 6. Anybody know?

 

[xabiaxica]

I hesitate to take issue with someone called 'Senior Expat' - but I have just received my NIE and it clearly states on the bottom of the letter that it is only valid for 3 months. As I understand it I have to get another in 3 months time.
It is all very confusing out here! Still not sure if I am legally allowed to drive my UK registered car for 3 months or for 6. Anybody know?

your NIE number is for life though ........ - it's a fiscal ID number like your NI number in the UK

we've all had the same numbers since we got ours 8 years ago

I've just checked my green NIE/resident cert. - nowhere does it say that it's only valid for 3 months

 

[Pesky Wesky]

I hesitate to take issue with someone called 'Senior Expat' - but I have just received my NIE and it clearly states on the bottom of the letter that it is only valid for 3 months. As I understand it I have to get another in 3 months time.
It is all very confusing out here! Still not sure if I am legally allowed to drive my UK registered car for 3 months or for 6. Anybody know?

Really????????????
Oh dear!!
Well, if it says it's only valid for 3 months, it's only valid for 3 months.
Could it perhaps be that this is a copy of your official NIE paper?
Just a minute - what does your paper look like? The only thing I have now is the paper that says I'm on the foreigner's register. It looks like this

There is no expiry date on it.

 

[xabiaxica]

Really????????????
Oh dear!!
Well, if it says it's only valid for 3 months, it's only valid for 3 months.
Could it perhaps be that this is a copy of your official NIE paper?
Just a minute - what does your paper look like? The only thing I have now is the paper that says I'm on the foreigner's register. It looks like this

There is no expiry date on it.

I'm thinking that if you just get a NIE without registering as resident, then that certificate is only valid for 3 months - as I said earlier in the thread - maybe when you go back to renew it they want ti know why you haven't registered as resident & you get a 'permanent' certificate when you do so

I've just found a photocopy of my original NIE from 8 years ago - that doesn't have a 3 month limit either

 

[PND]

We had to make an appointment with the Policia Nacional in Estepona and then fill in some forms - pay 16 euros (I think) and then return the following day to collect our NIE. This amounted to a letter (headed paper 'Ministerio del Interio') and entitled Comisaria de Estepona Extranjeros. There is then a paragraph of what appears to be Spanish legalese and then my name, d of b, nationality and my NIE number. The ketter concludes with the line 'Caduca a los tres meses'.....which I take to mean only valid for 3 months. I think I will probably retain the same number when I renew it - but, as I understand it, I have to return to renew. Seems like a good way to ensure a regular income stream!
Any ideas on the 3 month/6 month debate for registering cars?
Cheers!

 

[Pesky Wesky]

We had to make an appointment with the Policia Nacional in Estepona and then fill in some forms - pay 16 euros (I think) and then return the following day to collect our NIE. This amounted to a letter (headed paper 'Ministerio del Interio') and entitled Comisaria de Estepona Extranjeros. There is then a paragraph of what appears to be Spanish legalese and then my name, d of b, nationality and my NIE number. The ketter concludes with the line 'Caduca a los tres meses'.....which I take to mean only valid for 3 months. I think I will probably retain the same number when I renew it - but, as I understand it, I have to return to renew. Seems like a good way to ensure a regular income stream!
Any ideas on the 3 month/6 month debate for registering cars?
Cheers!

Yes, but does it look like the one I posted?

 

[xabiaxica]

We had to make an appointment with the Policia Nacional in Estepona and then fill in some forms - pay 16 euros (I think) and then return the following day to collect our NIE. This amounted to a letter (headed paper 'Ministerio del Interio') and entitled Comisaria de Estepona Extranjeros. There is then a paragraph of what appears to be Spanish legalese and then my name, d of b, nationality and my NIE number. The ketter concludes with the line 'Caduca a los tres meses'.....which I take to mean only valid for 3 months. I think I will probably retain the same number when I renew it - but, as I understand it, I have to return to renew. Seems like a good way to ensure a regular income stream!
Any ideas on the 3 month/6 month debate for registering cars?
Cheers!

does your cert look like the one PeskyWesky posted - does it say
CERTIFICADO DE REGISTRO DE CIUDADANO DE LA UNIÓN - on it?

if not, then what you have sounds to me like a non-resident NIE cert.

 

[PND]

Sorry to have not answered the question.....no - my NIE letter does not look like the one Pesky Wesky posted. I think Xabiachica may have hit on the answer: I think it is a 'non-resident NIE cert'. To be honest - I think that is what I asked for - we are only intending to stay for a year or so to see if we like it before comitting ourselves. I thought there was only one NIE - for non residents. I thouht those intending to stay long term had to apply for a residencia. Have I screwed up?

 

[xabiaxica]

Sorry to have not answered the question.....no - my NIE letter does not look like the one Pesky Wesky posted. I think Xabiachica may have hit on the answer: I think it is a 'non-resident NIE cert'. To be honest - I think that is what I asked for - we are only intending to stay for a year or so to see if we like it before comitting ourselves. I thought there was only one NIE - for non residents. I thouht those intending to stay long term had to apply for a residencia. Have I screwed up?

you could put it that way.............

you don't have to 'apply for residencia' at all - if you plan to live here more than 90 days you are 'resident' & have to register as such

then you get the green 'resident cert' & your NIE number will be on it - & that doesn't expire


last summer that was costing a bit over 10€ iirc

the car thing........... if you're resident you can't drive a UK plated car legally - I think the confusion lies in that you have 90 days from registering as resident to re-plate your car - you don't have to register as resident until you have been here 90 days

I think I could be onto something here?

 

[PND]

I think you may be right on the cars! Well done - I'm sure there are a lot of people on here who will be grateful for your insight. Thank you!

 

[xabiaxica]

I think you may be right on the cars! Well done - I'm sure there are a lot of people on here who will be grateful for your insight. Thank you!

I could be wrong - but that does seem logical to me

 

[Pesky Wesky]

Have I screwed up?

Well, not entirely.
You do have a NIE. It's just that you'll have to go back to get it renewed and pay more. A bit of a pain, but not a disaster, is it?

 

[PND]

Quite right - not a disaster at all - just a little embarrassing not to have been able to work it all out in advance. From what you and Xabichica have said I presume that when I return to the Police stn after 3 months to renew, I will actually be asked/expected to take out a resident NIE (as opposed to the non-resident NIE that I have now) - It will have the same number. Thanks for all your advice.

 

[xabiaxica]

Quite right - not a disaster at all - just a little embarrassing not to have been able to work it all out in advance. From what you and Xabichica have said I presume that when I return to the Police stn after 3 months to renew, I will actually be asked/expected to take out a resident NIE (as opposed to the non-resident NIE that I have now) - It will have the same number. Thanks for all your advice.

that does seem to be what's happening

please come back & let us know what happens

 

[Monkey Hangers]

I must admit we heard something like this, not through the gravevine, on the news on the radio within the last week. They said NIE's had to be renewed every three months and in person. They specifically said those who used a solicitor via power of attorney would no longer be able to do this, they must go in person. We got our NIE along with residency the same as the certificate shown on this thread, no expiry date, so maybe it is NIE holders only who need to do this renewal?
As previously quoted, just a new little income stream from the 'rich' foreighners.
When we lived in Florida we had to renew our driving licence every year. The cost increased from $25 to $48 in one leap. As the guy in the licencing office said "Just another tax for the foreigners" also a way of proving they were there legally, having to show visas etc.