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I will keep adding to this thread as new information comes to hand.

As a newcomer to New Zealand 11 years ago I found it all bewildering at first especially when making your biggest purchase. So many houses are marketed using terms such as PBN which means Price by Negotiation other terms used can be

BEO
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MWP

for an explanation of Kiwi terminology when buying property in New Zealand, Kiwibank offers some good explanations on their website here is the link

Home loans in plain English - Kiwibank

Arming yourself with as much information about the property market will hopefully help you make wise decisions.

The following articles appeared in today edition of the New Zealand Herald & the entire articles can be read online.

The recovery of the housing market is much wished for by those in the property industry, but is it really happening in the early stages of 2012? What are the signs? Our industry heads give Gill South their honest take on the sector, which is, on the whole, cautiously optimistic.
to read more follow the link below

QV: What the property industry says - Business - NZ Herald News

Have you ever been to a property auction? Some pointer for you.
The lady is just three rows in front of the auctioneer - not the greatest place to start stretching with an innocent arm above the head when a deal is in the making.

Instantly she recoils as the man with the hammer jabs away pleasantly, trying to establish whether he's dealing with a live bid or a solo zumba display.
Find out what happened next: QV: Caution in the air at property auctions - Business - NZ Herald News


The Property Report, published in today's Herald, shows average house prices since the 2007 market peak have climbed throughout Auckland city, but prices in other North Island cities are up to nearly 18 per cent below what they were four years ago.
And Auckland property: well if you want to buy in close proximity to the city it seems to be the winning choice for property owners.


Auckland property market out in front - Business - NZ Herald News

They had a separate Property Report in today's NZ Herald which charts the movements in prices since when property prices peaked in late 2007. The results are for 400 suburbs across the North Island.

If interested in following this further log onto QV to read the data in detail.

Another website for all manner of real estate values & suburb information is http://www.zoodle.co.nz/
 

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there are unfortunately some rogues in the NZ building industry

Million dollar dream home misery
Friday Mar 9, 2012
Two Aucklanders are $1 million out of pocket after their dream holiday home in one of Northland's most exclusive streets was condemned and the people responsible declared bankrupt or liquidated.

Mike and Paula Scandle sought and were awarded damages through the courts but will not see a cent.
from Taranaki, the case of the fake Registered Master Builder:

Taranaki home builder goes into liquidation
02/03/2012
Failed Taranaki housing company Dream Homes has been put into liquidation amidst revelations the company traded under a fake Registered Master Builders logo.
. . . more than 80 unsecured creditors were owed $823,000 and 12 secured creditors were owed $692,000.
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Builders upset over false ads

06/03/2012
Registered Master Builders is considering taking failed Taranaki housing company Dream Homes to the Commerce Commission for "fraudulent" branding, the federation's chief executive says.

The Taranaki Daily News revealed last week that Dream Homes used a Registered Master Builders logo on its promotional material despite having had its application declined.

Because Dream Homes was not a Registered Master Builder, customers who had built homes with the company would not be secured against their investments.

A Master Build guarantee protects homeowners against loss of deposit, non-completion, defective workmanship, rot and structural defects or if the builder is unable or unwilling to put things right.

. . . New Plymouth man Mr Xiao, who did not want his first name published, was a Dream Homes customer fooled by the unauthorised branding. Mr Xiao said he signed a contract with Dream Homes in November 2010 to build a three storey, five-bedroom home in Hine St, worth more than $700,000. The contract required a 10 per cent deposit of $70,000 but the plans failed to get past the consenting stage because they did not meet building codes.
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and flees the country:

Less than a week after placing six companies into liquidation Dream Homes director Thomas Buckthought has fled to Australia
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hard times for many NZ home-owners; I am surprised at these numbers, though as a percentage of the overall housing market it must be very low.

More homeowners losing homes
31/05/2012

High numbers of "mum and dad" homeowners are losing family homes to mortgagee sales and the numbers are only getting worse.

Terralink International's latest figures show there were 2265 mortgagee sales during 2011.

This was below the record of 3024 in 2009 and 2434 in 2010, but numbers began to rise during the second half of 2011 and have remained high since.

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"More Mum and Dad property owners are losing their homes. It's hard to claim things are getting better for ordinary Kiwis while this trend continues."

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hard times for many NZ home-owners; I am surprised at these numbers, though as a percentage of the overall housing market it must be very low.

Yes always sad when people loose their house but I don't think the picture is quite as grim. Newspapers like to print these stories to making startling headlines in order to sell papers.

Many of the sales were as a result of people over committing themselves in the first place & not being realistic about what they could comfortably afford.

I also blame banks for being so reckless in giving 0% -5% deposit loans to buy property.

When we first bought in the 1970's you could only borrow a limited amount based on repayments not exceeding 25% of 1 (not 2) take home salaries. You needed a hefty deposit and not a bad idea either, don't think many homes were repossessed in those days.

When we arrived here in 2001 we bought our house -no mortgage & over the next few years TV programs were all about buying property to refurbish & sell at a profit or building up a property portfolio by negative gearing. People like ourselves were made to feel stupid for not jumping on the bandwagon, but I wonder how many of these property portfolios ran into trouble when rents, rates, repairs, letting fees etc were not sufficient to repay the mortgages!

Many mortgagee sales are owners walking away from leaky home, it's often cheaper to walk away than repair them.
Once again banks have lowered their interest rates & offering housing loans on small deposits & property prices keep rising (at least in my area) but if prices drop or owners loose their jobs- what then?

Reading the comments following the newspaper article I note someone commented on high road tax in NZ obviously they have never owned a car in Australia!
 

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The latest New Zealand Property report has just been published & just as I anticipated prices have increased in most parts including Auckland & Canterbury.

Hawkes Bay prices have declined.

If you wish to download & read the full report here is the link.

http://unconditional.co.nz/blog/nz-property-report-may-2012/


These results are based on actual sales figures as supplied by Real Estate Agents & not merely pulled out of the air.

Perhaps you would like to make comments about what the housing market is like in your part of New Zealand.
 

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And... we have now reached the pinnacle of being able to advertise $1,000,000 as suitable for "1st Home Buyers"
Well there certainly is a lot of heat in the market lately, a house near me sold for $256,000 more than purchased a few months before after having only spent $40,000 on cosmetic improvements. CV was $610,000 sold for $905,000 3 bedroom ex state weatherboard.
 

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experts and experts - who to believe here?
Can anything be blamed but buyer demand? People willing to mortgage themselves for the rest of their lives (and beyond I think).

Auckland house prices could double by 2022 - experts
5:30 AM Sunday Jul 29, 2012

How high could house prices go, particularly in Auckland?

Some experts are predicting the revival in the market may not be shortlived, with two of the most bullish saying Auckland prices could hit a median of $1 million within the next 10 years.

The prediction by Olly Newland and Auckland Property Investors Association president David Whitburn, that house prices will double by 2022, comes as Auckland hits a record median sales price of $500,000.

House prices last doubled between 1996 and 2006.

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But Realestate.co.nz chief executive Alistair Helm cautioned against generalisations such as those Whitburn and Newland were making.

He said though prices doubled up to 2006, inflation was about 4 per cent. With inflation currently under 2 per cent, to reach 8 per cent growth each year would be more difficult.

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Not all of them require mortgages, there's a few cash buyers out there. Some people making the move to AKL are cashed up.
 

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Good News if you are selling

I have been watching house prices with interest over the last 12 months.

WE hope to sell our Auckland house in the coming months to downsize & fund our retirement so the news that Auckland's house prices are continuing to rise is music to our ears, as our house was bought to help recover some of the money we lost in an Australian bank self funded retirement scheme.

In our case buying a house in Mission Bay in June 2001 was a wise move, it would appear it has increased in value by more than 200% far better than we could have expected from other forms of investment & at the same time had a roof over our heads.
I cannot see how this trend can continue as wages are not keeping abreast with house prices. Unless it is because of the demand by people moving to Auckland willing to pay top $ to buy into the property ladder?

This story which many of you may have read appeared in the local paper today.

New Zealand has one the world's most over-valued housing markets, according to the Economist.

The magazine, which tracks price movements in 21 countries, said years of dizzying ascents were coming to an end for much of the world. But its chart showed NZ is bucking the trend.

The magazine rated our house prices compared to rents and incomes.
the full article appears here.

Global house prices ease but not in NZ - Business - NZ Herald News
 

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^ 200%!

I looked at the current Govt Valuation online for my former Wellington house - based on GV it has almost exactly doubled since 2003. However GV and actual selling price may be miles apart - still in contact with some former neighbours and the house next door which was advertised at close to it's GV of $665,000 recently sold for $550,000.
That was the common case of 'motivated vendors' -ie they had to sell as had jobs elsewhere, so on paper at least a bargain for the buyer.
I think the prices are outrageous and agree with every 'overpriced NZ homes article'
My late father used to quote figures on how many years average income it took to buy a car and a standard family home, as to whether wages were keeping up with inflation/cost of living. I bought my first home 1987 for less then three year's of my gross salary at that time. Worst part was mortgage interest rates a that time, around 20%.
Now with the average wage at what - less then 40K? - 10 years would not be adequate in most cities. My niece and her husband, one 1yr baby, teacher and mechanic, just bought their first home - don't envy them, but it is a step ahead (i hope) of paying the $400 a week in rent to someone else.
 

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I have been shocked by how much the rates of my Auckland homes has increased in the past few years more than 100% but they are still much less than Mr Hart's rates but then he is New Zealand's richest man so imagine his rates of over $63,000 are just small change by comparison


The Herald asked Quotable Value to reveal the highs and lows of the property market to show the widening gap between values in Auckland and the rest of the country.

First-home buyers unable to compete in the city may consider a move to the Manawatu, where Alec Wineti's derelict family home on Whanganui River Rd is valued at $7000.

It's 3142 times less expensive than the priciest house in the country - a $22 million mansion in Glendowie owned by New Zealand's richest man, Graeme Hart.
NZ's housing gap $22 million wide - Property - NZ Herald News
 

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House boom - rise of the $1m suburbs
Tuesday Sep 18, 2012


The suburb of Herne Bay has again topped the table with an average value of about $1.8 million

Eleven Auckland suburbs now have average house values of $1 million or more - and New Zealand could have its first $2 million suburb by Christmas.

Auckland's soaring house market has been highlighted in new figures given to the Herald, showing Westmere, Ponsonby and Devonport are the latest suburbs to join the $1 million club, alongside eight others.

The number of million-dollar suburbs is now higher than at any time during the previous housing boom.



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The secret to buying a house in Auckland is to not set your expectations too high.

Buying a modest house will get you onto the property ladder & as your situation improves you can always sell & move up the property ladder.

More than half of Aucklanders think first-time home buyers should turn their back on the city to get on the property ladder, a Herald-DigiPoll survey shows.

But real estate experts say young Kiwis should not give up on the region yet - just be prepared to live a bit farther out of town.

The survey of almost 250 Aucklanders revealed 54.3 per cent believed new buyers should move elsewhere. Thirty-five per cent of respondents said they should stay.

Alistair Helm, of Properazzi.co.nz, said new buyers should realise they needed to start small.
The full article can be read here.

City affordable, if you start small - Business - NZ Herald News

Any thoughts on this, would you agree or disagree?
 

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However if you have more than $1 million these are the areas of Auckland you should be looking at.

Eleven Auckland suburbs now have average house values of $1 million or more - and New Zealand could have its first $2 million suburb by Christmas.

Auckland's soaring house market has been highlighted in new figures given to the Herald, showing Westmere, Ponsonby and Devonport are the latest suburbs to join the $1 million club, alongside eight others.

The number of million-dollar suburbs is now higher than at any time during the previous housing boom.
The rest of the article can be read here
House boom - rise of the $1m suburbs - Property - NZ Herald News

I think it would be fair to say that Auckland house prices have more than doubled in the last 10 years and looks like that trend will only continue as Auckland attracts the largest share of new arrivals.
 

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Property values march higher
08/11/2012

Property values continued to strengthen in October, edging up 1.9 per cent in the past three months nationally, Quotable Value said today.

A late spring surge in buyer interest and sales had pushed the national average price up to $420,048, 5.7 per cent higher than a year ago.

QV has changed its methodology slightly and prices in the last three months relate to its index, rather than the average sales price.

Jonno Ingerson, QV.co.nz's research director, said a lack of listings was still holding the market back, particularly in Auckland and Canterbury where housing was limited.

Although those cities were driving up the price, "there are some signs that other main centres and provincial cities are increasing in value also".

All the main provincial centres improved in the last three months, except for Wanganui and Invercargill which eased slightly, and Whangarei which fell 1.3 per cent.

Values in the wider Auckland area have risen 3.3 per cent over the last three months, and 9.2 per cent in the past year.

QV operations manager Kerry Stewart said in Auckland good properties were attracting "numerous interested buyers, with auctions especially proving successful for many, with multiple bidders not uncommon".

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But the data is clear some areas have done vastly better than others. In the central North Island town of Kawerau, for instance, property values are down 40 per cent from their peak, reflecting recent changes at the local mill.

Also well down on their peak were Waikato (-19 per cent), Napier (-7.2 per cent), central Hawkes Bay (-20 per cent), Horowhenua (-18 per cent), Masterton and South Wairarapa (-17 per cent), wider Wellington (-5.1 per cent), Southland (-11.4 per cent) and Queenstown Lakes (-12.9 per cent).
 
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