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Hi everyone

Im looking for some advise. Im looking to move myself, partner and 3 children to
Australia at some stage in the near future.
Im presently working as an Electrician here in the UK, and have been for a several years. Im not fully qualified, but will be this December. I dont really know where i stand with the amount of time ive worked in this trade or only being partly qualified. ive been led to believe a visa457 maybe my best option?

Any advise would be greatly apprieciated :)

Thanks Jason
 
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You won't get a skilled visa until you have work experience post qualification. Although you have work experience it is not counted as its classed as unskilled because you were a trainee.

A 457 would be an option but that is not a migration visa, its a temporary work visa. Not something I'd use personally with kids dues the lack of security, possible schoool fees and no state support with welfare and childcare benefits.

It would be very difficult finding a sponsor offshore because it takes time and money to sponsor someone. Most smaller employers won't bother because their are qualified applicants in Australia they don't need to wait or pay out for.
 

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I would suggest seeking advise from a immigration agent first - see what your options are but get this info from a professional ! Good luck to you
 

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You won't get a skilled visa until you have work experience post qualification. Although you have work experience it is not counted as its classed as unskilled because you were a trainee.

A 457 would be an option but that is not a migration visa, its a temporary work visa. Not something I'd use personally with kids dues the lack of security, possible schoool fees and no state support with welfare and childcare benefits.

It would be very difficult finding a sponsor offshore because it takes time and money to sponsor someone. Most smaller employers won't bother because their are qualified applicants in Australia they don't need to wait or pay out for.
Thanks Shel

I thought this would be the case. After im fully qualified (dec12) then i think ive got to get another 12months work experience under my belt before i can apply for a visa. Do you know how long the process takes once you have applied for the visa?
At this rate i will probably be 44 before i can apply. Also i have family in Aderlaide, this is where the 457 could become useful.

Thanks Jason :eyebrows:
 

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I would suggest seeking advise from a immigration agent first - see what your options are but get this info from a professional ! Good luck to you
Thanks Gilldl

Yeah thats probably sound advise, just ive contacted a couple of mira agents in the past, and they have both had conflicting advise. It probably worth me selecting one agent and sticking with them, but more importantly, trusting there advise.

Jason :clap2:
 
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Having family won't help get a 457 as that is employer not family sponsored. You have to find an employer who is eligible to sponsor, who will offer you a job and willing to sponsor you.
Even those visas which do allow family sponsorship don't bring much benefit except extra paperwork!

After you have work experience and apply it could take from a few months to a year and a half. But the system is changing, along with the visa types, in July this year so the length of time to get a visa may shorten or not! Google skillselect at diac.gov.au

What about your partner is she in a skilled role?
 

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Having family won't help get a 457 as that is employer not family sponsored. You have to find an employer who is eligible to sponsor, who will offer you a job and willing to sponsor you.
Even those visas which do allow family sponsorship don't bring much benefit except extra paperwork!

After you have work experience and apply it could take from a few months to a year and a half. But the system is changing, along with the visa types, in July this year so the length of time to get a visa may shorten or not! Google skillselect at diac.gov.au

What about your partner is she in a skilled role?
Hi Shel

My partner runs our business (off licence) and therefore is pretty busy with that.
She's a qualified nursery nurse level3, but my understanding is that according to the SOL you have you be level4, which is management level.
Its starting too look like ill have to bide my time and wait till im able to apply once ive secured my quals and served work time after.
There seems to be quite a few different visa's etc, and as you say, the system and its rules are always changing. (I just prey my age doesnt go against me)
I may even keep applying for work in Oz, in the hope someone wants a sparks, but as you say, why spend money investing in an overseas employee, when they can get one at home.
Ill have a look at that skillselect website and see what that as to offer. :D

I suppose when applying for a visa, they get you jumping through lots of hoops, and i suppose ill get used to being over the moon one minute and totally deflated the next. I would imagine its all part of the process :eyebrows:

Anyway thanks for the advise and info'.
 
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Too many hoops, drives you mad! But worth it when you get there in the end.

One thing re agents. Personally I didnt use one and wouldn't say everyone needs one unless they are not confident to do it themselves, dont have the time or energy to read a million government web sites and forums so they can understand the rules or they have a complicated case such as criminal or health issues or children who have another parent not migrating. But if you use an agent make sure they are registered https://www.mara.gov.au/Home/default.aspx As there are many who are not and could fleece you!

Here is the info re the new visas come July Skillselect I only know a little about this right now. Others are better placed to tell you about this as I applied for a spouse visa because I have an Australian hubby.

But one thing interested me is you have a business. Is it all yours? There are also business visas, not an easy one but there all the same if you own a business and want to transfer it to Australia. Strict requirements on length and type of ownership and turnover.

Business Development - Provisional - Business - Visas & Immigration

Business Development - Permanent - Business - Visas & Immigration

Wouldnt worry re your age. They have increased the age and with the system coming in to play, skill select, you make an expression of interest EOI. So long as you have your skills assessed & make that before the cut off age if they invite you to apply 5 years later (it shouldnt be that long) it is your age at the time you expressed an interest that matters.
 

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But one thing interested me is you have a business. Is it all yours? There are also business visas, not an easy one but there all the same if you own a business and want to transfer it to Australia. Strict requirements on length and type of ownership and turnover.



Wouldnt worry re your age. They have increased the age and with the system coming in to play, skill select, you make an expression of interest EOI. So long as you have your skills assessed & make that before the cut off age if they invite you to apply 5 years later (it shouldnt be that long) it is your age at the time you expressed an interest that matters.[/quote]

Hi Shel

Im quite interested ti the EOI through Skill select could be the option im looking for, and well worth my time completely understanding all the requirements for it.
My business is a small offlicence (akwrights open all hrs) set in a courner shop (terreced building) It is my business, but i dont own the building.
I am vat registered, and my turnover is roughly around 200k maybe a little more, and this is our third year of trading. Bought an exsiting business.
I think its also time i looked at contacting a Mira Agent.

Thanks Jason
 

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could you give me the web addresses for business visas please.
I had to delete half your last message cos it wouldnt let me repy with usl on them

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State/Territory Sponsored Business Owner (Provisional) (Subclass 163)

This visa is a temporary visa, and the first step towards being granted a permanent Business Skills visa. You must be outside Australia when this visa is granted.

You may be eligible for a permanent Business Skills visa after holding this visa for a minimum of two years. To be eligible for a permanent Business Skills visa you must meet all the obligations of this visa and additional requirements of the permanent Business Skills visa you apply for. Meeting these requirements may take you longer than two years.

After two years you may be eligible to apply for one of the following visas:

Business Owner (residence)
or
State/Territory Sponsored Business Owner (residence)


Age

You must be less than 55 years old
(except where the regional authority considers that the proposed business will be of exceptional economic benefit to the region.)
Sponsorship

Business success

You must have an overall successful business career.
Business ownership

You must have an ownership interest in a main business (or two main business combined) with an annual turnover of at least AUD300 000 in at least two of the four fiscal years immediately before you apply and you (and your partner combined) must have owned at least:

51 per cent of the business where the turnover is less than AUD400 000 per annum.
30 per cent of the business where the turnover is AUD400 000 or more per annum.
10 per cent where the business is a publicly listed company.


See: Definitions
Significant assets

Your (and your partner's combined) business and personal assets have a net value of at least AUD500 000 and were legally acquired and are capable of being transferred to Australia within two years of being granted this visa.
Additional assets

You have sufficient assets (additional to those above) to settle in Australia.


Which leads to one of these visas after 2 years if you still meet the requirements
State/Territory Sponsored Business Owner (Residence) (Subclass 892)

or this
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/business/890/
 
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