[cassie1812]

Hi, Im 23 and I moved to Cyprus with my dad when I was 17 and met Nik, my now 31 year old boyfriend from Cyprus (Greek Cypriot)

We rent in Pafos and have 2 dogs but work is becoming extremely difficult and Nik is currently juggling 3 jobs to pay the bills and Im working more hours for less money and we are really struggling.

We want to have children and build a life together but its proving very difficult here. To add to that I miss my family so much, they have recently visited to surprise me on my birthday and when they are here Im the happiest girl alive and when they go I cry for days and get very depressed wishing I could pop over to see my nan or my mum or even my sister for a cuppa on my days off and I cant and when I have children also my family will see them once a year and I dont want that, when Im upset I have noone to go to here and Im feeling very lonely and homesick. I have recently spoken to my sister over the internet and I have begged her to help me come home. Im so upset and lonely I cant explain.

Living in Cyprus is very hard and we are looking at moving to the uk but we have a milliion questions but to start with:

1, Can I rent a house through an agency or privately even though I have only worked in uk for a year (16 to 17 years of age) and my boyfriend is cypriot and also we have 2 small dogs.

2, If we had a deposit could we get a mortgage, we would both have jobs at this point but not been in them for long and obviously have been in Cyprus for several years also.

3, Can we claim any benefits, council house or income support temporarily until we settle (not one to sponge off the government but it would be temporarily until we find our feet)

We just want to know with our situation how easy will it be and what problems we may face?

I just want to go home :-(

Thank you

 

[parkey]

Hi What part of the UK do you intend to relocate?

 

[Geraldine]

Hi, Im 23 and I moved to Cyprus with my dad when I was 17 and met Nik, my now 31 year old boyfriend from Cyprus (Greek Cypriot)

We rent in Pafos and have 2 dogs but work is becoming extremely difficult and Nik is currently juggling 3 jobs to pay the bills and Im working more hours for less money and we are really struggling.

We want to have children and build a life together but its proving very difficult here. To add to that I miss my family so much, they have recently visited to surprise me on my birthday and when they are here Im the happiest girl alive and when they go I cry for days and get very depressed wishing I could pop over to see my nan or my mum or even my sister for a cuppa on my days off and I cant and when I have children also my family will see them once a year and I dont want that, when Im upset I have noone to go to here and Im feeling very lonely and homesick. I have recently spoken to my sister over the internet and I have begged her to help me come home. Im so upset and lonely I cant explain.

Living in Cyprus is very hard and we are looking at moving to the uk but we have a milliion questions but to start with:

1, Can I rent a house through an agency or privately even though I have only worked in uk for a year (16 to 17 years of age) and my boyfriend is cypriot and also we have 2 small dogs.

2, If we had a deposit could we get a mortgage, we would both have jobs at this point but not been in them for long and obviously have been in Cyprus for several years also.

3, Can we claim any benefits, council house or income support temporarily until we settle (not one to sponge off the government but it would be temporarily until we find our feet)

We just want to know with our situation how easy will it be and what problems we may face?

I just want to go home :-(

Thank you

Hi, I'm just so sorry it hasn't worked out for you and wish you all the very best for your move back to the UK.

 

[virgil]

Hi, Im 23 and I moved to Cyprus with my dad when I was 17 and met Nik, my now 31 year old boyfriend from Cyprus (Greek Cypriot)

We rent in Pafos and have 2 dogs but work is becoming extremely difficult and Nik is currently juggling 3 jobs to pay the bills and Im working more hours for less money and we are really struggling.

We want to have children and build a life together but its proving very difficult here. To add to that I miss my family so much, they have recently visited to surprise me on my birthday and when they are here Im the happiest girl alive and when they go I cry for days and get very depressed wishing I could pop over to see my nan or my mum or even my sister for a cuppa on my days off and I cant and when I have children also my family will see them once a year and I dont want that, when Im upset I have noone to go to here and Im feeling very lonely and homesick. I have recently spoken to my sister over the internet and I have begged her to help me come home. Im so upset and lonely I cant explain.

Living in Cyprus is very hard and we are looking at moving to the uk but we have a milliion questions but to start with:

1, Can I rent a house through an agency or privately even though I have only worked in uk for a year (16 to 17 years of age) and my boyfriend is cypriot and also we have 2 small dogs.

2, If we had a deposit could we get a mortgage, we would both have jobs at this point but not been in them for long and obviously have been in Cyprus for several years also.

3, Can we claim any benefits, council house or income support temporarily until we settle (not one to sponge off the government but it would be temporarily until we find our feet)

We just want to know with our situation how easy will it be and what problems we may face?

I just want to go home :-(

Thank you

Hiya Cassie,

If you bring Nik back to the UK and marry him then you will both be British citizens and be entitled to benefits.

It seems to work for people where neither of em have Brit citizenship

 

[cassie1812]

Hi What part of the UK do you intend to relocate?

Luton Bedfordshire,

thanks Geraldine

 

[cassie1812]

Hiya Cassie,

If you bring Nik back to the UK and marry him then you will both be British citizens and be entitled to benefits.

It seems to work for people where neither of em have Brit citizenship

So even though hes an EU citizen does that make a difference?

Can we go over to England and rent through an agency like any other person in England?

 

[Pam n Dave]

Yes of course you can rent like any other person in England. We couldn't sell our house in the UK as Northern Rock went belly up three weeks after it went on the market and we decided to rent it out and move here, we now have Poles living in it.

Our agency checked them out and made sure that they could afford the rental and made sure that they didn't leave the previous rental in a mess.

I would plan carefully as you will need references so get a letter from your current landlord when you leave a take photo copies. Be prepared to show the original but only give out the copy.

If you are on benefits your choice of rental may be limited as many landlords refuse to take DHSS people because of the problems many seem to cause.

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you here, please tread carefully as things are getting difficult in the UK as well.

 

[cassie1812]

Yes of course you can rent like any other person in England. We couldn't sell our house in the UK as Northern Rock went belly up three weeks after it went on the market and we decided to rent it out and move here, we now have Poles living in it.

Our agency checked them out and made sure that they could afford the rental and made sure that they didn't leave the previous rental in a mess.

I would plan carefully as you will need references so get a letter from your current landlord when you leave a take photo copies. Be prepared to show the original but only give out the copy.

If you are on benefits your choice of rental may be limited as many landlords refuse to take DHSS people because of the problems many seem to cause.

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you here, please tread carefully as things are getting difficult in the UK as well.

Thank you very much for this information.

I thought you needed credit references and been in employment for a while etc. The house we have at the moment is Niks mums house so we pay her, I suppose she could give us a reference. So we could literally come over to England with jobs to go to obviously, and rent straight away?? What about my dogs, I have 2 labradors, small labradors, whats it like getting dogs over from Cypus to UK, does anyone know??

Thank you everyone for your help, its very comforting and reassuring

 

[RHODES4712]

Hi carrie, whatever you do don't get a mortgage in the uk, I've just sold an absolute Stunning bungalow and had to knock £80000.00 off the valued price of 260k just to get rid of it. Even though it had been fully renovated and loads of land with it. I would put money on it that the interest rates are going to start to rise very soon in the uk and that will make it harder to pay any mortgage. Plus the jobs in uk are very scarce with hundreds applying for every vacancy, everything seems to have shot up in price in uk with petrol at £1.45 a litre council tax for my 2 bed bungalow was £1550.00 a year food has risen rapidly. So do some calculations first and maybe get some advice from your sister or other family members.
Good luck and wish you well.
Darren

 

[cassie1812]

Hi carrie, whatever you do don't get a mortgage in the uk, I've just sold an absolute Stunning bungalow and had to knock £80000.00 off the valued price of 260k just to get rid of it. Even though it had been fully renovated and loads of land with it. I would put money on it that the interest rates are going to start to rise very soon in the uk and that will make it harder to pay any mortgage. Plus the jobs in uk are very scarce with hundreds applying for every vacancy, everything seems to have shot up in price in uk with petrol at £1.45 a litre council tax for my 2 bed bungalow was £1550.00 a year food has risen rapidly. So do some calculations first and maybe get some advice from your sister or other family members.
Good luck and wish you well.
Darren

Right ok, I have been told that as my sister is currently buying her first house and been declined a mortgage, she said its very hard and she currently living with her boyfriends family member so she can save a bit. I dont care where I live I just want to e settled and have my family close by, Im not greedy, I dont want to be rich with a fancy house I would just rather struggle in the UK knowing Im not lonely and I have my family there, in Cyprus I have nobody and no future at all, Im just scared of having children and being lonely, I want my chldren to see there family and live a normal life like I did, Im so lonely here, I just want to come over to the UK and find a job for me and Nik, get my dogs and furniture over and rent a small place for the rest of my life if mortages are hard to get at the moment. Is it as easy as that???

 

[RHODES4712]

I am surprised you haven't got loads of friends in Cyprus, it might be just me but I've lived in the uk for nearly 40 years and if I'm being honest I find most English people to be greedy and disrespectful, they have no manners and no self respect. It costs nothing to say please and thank you and to be aware of your surroundings. I forget how many times I've had to ask people to excuse me in supermarkets as they seem to think they are the only ones on the planet and just stand in groups talking all day when people are trying to shop. Not only that theft burglary and murders are getting out of hand now and it's everywhere in uk. So I'll be honest with you if I were to have children I really wouldn't want to raise them in England, but like I say it might just be me. But this is just my opinion and because you say you are so lonely and miss your family I do hope everything works out for you if you go back to uk. I can also say I am not greedy as this time last year my wife and I were earning £93000,00 a year in salaries and we have decided to pack the jobs in and come to Cyprus as having the money has been the worst thing we could have done. I can certainly say that the last ten years of earning it has made both of us miserable and taken its toll on our health. We will be looking to buy a small house in Cyprus and get back to basics with village life no fancy cars or pools. Fresh fruit and veg will be a luxury to us as almost everything is imported in the uk.

 

[cassie1812]

I am surprised you haven't got loads of friends in Cyprus, it might be just me but I've lived in the uk for nearly 40 years and if I'm being honest I find most English people to be greedy and disrespectful, they have no manners and no self respect. It costs nothing to say please and thank you and to be aware of your surroundings. I forget how many times I've had to ask people to excuse me in supermarkets as they seem to think they are the only ones on the planet and just stand in groups talking all day when people are trying to shop. Not only that theft burglary and murders are getting out of hand now and it's everywhere in uk. So I'll be honest with you if I were to have children I really wouldn't want to raise them in England, but like I say it might just be me. But this is just my opinion and because you say you are so lonely and miss your family I do hope everything works out for you if you go back to uk. I can also say I am not greedy as this time last year my wife and I were earning £93000,00 a year in salaries and we have decided to pack the jobs in and come to Cyprus as having the money has been the worst thing we could have done. I can certainly say that the last ten years of earning it has made both of us miserable and taken its toll on our health. We will be looking to buy a small house in Cyprus and get back to basics with village life no fancy cars or pools. Fresh fruit and veg will be a luxury to us as almost everything is imported in the uk.

I do have friends here but its not the same, I know the UK is going down hill but I like Milton Keynes and I would like to eventually settle there. I hate Luton adn I think 99.9% of people that live there do, I just miss my family and seeing my sister and having lunch with mum, sounds ridiculous but I just miss that, the homely stuff. I agree with you though, I dont want to bring my kids up in Luton but I also dont want to bring my kids up with its close family 2000 miles away. I hope I dont sound ridiculous and immature but hopefully everyone understands how I feel. Sometimes its not about sun sea and sand, you dont realise how important family are until they are thousands of miles away.

 

[Geraldine]

Thank you very much for this information.

I thought you needed credit references and been in employment for a while etc. The house we have at the moment is Niks mums house so we pay her, I suppose she could give us a reference. So we could literally come over to England with jobs to go to obviously, and rent straight away?? What about my dogs, I have 2 labradors, small labradors, whats it like getting dogs over from Cypus to UK, does anyone know??

Thank you everyone for your help, its very comforting and reassuring

As for your dogs, I think the laws have relaxed a little since the New Year, re dogs travelling abroad, have a look at Paphiakos web site as I am sure they may have some details.

Also see if you can get some used dog cages from folks who made the trip over,try the classified ads, that will save you some money.

 

[parkey]

Hi Cassie1812
The UK economy is back in recession in fact it was never out and recession is now a depression.
I do not think you would in the short term be entitled to help with you housing or living costs.
It appears after 6 years in Cyprus with a Cypriot partner you now feel home sick. You are struggling to make ends meet in Cyprus. I do not think much will change if you move back to the UK.
If I am correct the consensus of opinion is that Cyprus is better equipped to weather the economic storm than the UK and the effected countries in Europe.

The people here are generally depressed and struggling to make ends meet.
I would suggest you spend an hour or two looking around this forum and form your own opinion. No one on this forum is qualified to make the decision for you.
The grass is always greener.
If you and you partner have skills needed in the UK you may have half a chance if not you will struggle to make ends meet on minimum wages approx £6.00 per hour.
Rhodes sums it up well for some of us, we want to move out of this crime ridden, cold, wet over priced country where the niceness has disappeared from the people.

Good Luck.

 

[virgil]

Of course, it isn't all theft burglary and murders here in the UK cassie

The country isn't actually in a depression either.

You rent a property in Cyprus so you haven't got anything to sell as such, and you can rent a property in the UK.

See how it goes job wise etc. and if it doesn't work out, well - you can always return to A Place In The Sun!

When I moved to Cornwall 15 years ago, people said " oh, y'all never get a job in Cornwall",
well - I haven't been out of work once in that 15 years so I say:

Nuts to the doom n' gloom merchants

 

[dstump]

Dogs

Obviously your dogs are very important to you, you may well find that most private landlords will not allow dogs in the UK. Some will, but you would probably have to find a larger damages deposit. Hope it all works out for you.

 

[Geraldine]

Obviously your dogs are very important to you, you may well find that most private landlords will not allow dogs in the UK. Some will, but you would probably have to find a larger damages deposit. Hope it all works out for you.

I totally agree with this, a friend of mine here has really struggled to find a rented property which would take her dog in the UK when she returns next month.

I also know of another couple who have returned to the UK and they were unable to find a place to rent with their dog so are living in a caravan.

 

[RHODES4712]

Of course, it isn't all theft burglary and murders here in the UK cassie

The country isn't actually in a depression either.

You rent a property in Cyprus so you haven't got anything to sell as such, and you can rent a property in the UK.

See how it goes job wise etc. and if it doesn't work out, well - you can always return to A Place In The Sun!

When I moved to Cornwall 15 years ago, people said " oh, y'all never get a job in Cornwall",
well - I haven't been out of work once in that 15 years so I say:

Nuts to the doom n' gloom merchants

no offence virgil but i havent been out of work here in the uk since i was 15 and thats 25 years. i've never claimed a penny off the state either. One thing i do know is that every employer i have ever worked for have been greedy and want every second out of you and in return want to pay peanuts. even though i've been earning £44000 a year driving trains (26k after tax and insurance) less £6000 a year in petrol, i can tell you life has been bad. They expect you to get up at 1am to drive 40 miles to then spend 10 hours driving trains all over the country with bare minimal breaks and sometimes not at all and if a train breaks down they then expect you to go out and fix it. Not to mention being examined every five minutes, i can go on and on about all sorts of safety aspects that are constantly being broken. Companies are only interested in one thing and that will always be profit. I'm no doom and gloom merchant just realistic. The goverment in this country have got everyone stitched up unless you're on benefits. For everyone who wants to go out and work for a living the government just want to take every penny you earn. look at it, council tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax, income tax, national insurance, road tax, insurance premium tax, 20% vat, tax on petrol, tax on heating, tv licence, tax on savings, stamp duty, local authority searches, retire at 75 if i'm lucky seen as everyone that went for a private pension as the goverment suggested has not really got one now as they are all worthless. i'd love to hear from anyone that has got anything good to say about this so called "Great" Britain????????

 

[parkey]

I guess Virgil works in the public sector. I was born and bred in Cornwall and do not consider my self doom and gloom just living in the real world.
0.3% growth is recession coupled with an average of 5% inflation = depression and it is going to get even worse. A couple of months ago a van driving job was advertised at min wage 236 applicants in one day, it was on thel ocal news. The UK is a tough place to live if in the PRIVATE sector.
end of.

 

[virgil]

no offence virgil but i havent been out of work here in the uk since i was 15 and thats 25 years. i've never claimed a penny off the state either. One thing i do know is that every employer i have ever worked for have been greedy and want every second out of you and in return want to pay peanuts. even though i've been earning £44000 a year driving trains (26k after tax and insurance) less £6000 a year in petrol, i can tell you life has been bad. They expect you to get up at 1am to drive 40 miles to then spend 10 hours driving trains all over the country with bare minimal breaks and sometimes not at all and if a train breaks down they then expect you to go out and fix it. Not to mention being examined every five minutes, i can go on and on about all sorts of safety aspects that are constantly being broken. Companies are only interested in one thing and that will always be profit. I'm no doom and gloom merchant just realistic. The goverment in this country have got everyone stitched up unless you're on benefits. For everyone who wants to go out and work for a living the government just want to take every penny you earn. look at it, council tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax, income tax, national insurance, road tax, insurance premium tax, 20% vat, tax on petrol, tax on heating, tv licence, tax on savings, stamp duty, local authority searches, retire at 75 if i'm lucky seen as everyone that went for a private pension as the goverment suggested has not really got one now as they are all worthless. i'd love to hear from anyone that has got anything good to say about this so called "Great" Britain????????

I reckon you've got the UK just about summed up comrade Rhodes and you deserve a medal for that post friend!

I must admit that living in Cornwall is a bit different from an inner City etc. and although the natives are very friendly as I'm sure they are in Cyprus, Cornwall is actually one of the poorest areas of Europe and the the wages here are like LOW.

I'm glad you didn't take offence at what I wrote (many would have!) perhaps if Labour get back in No 10 in 2015 things will be a lot better for us and we'll all be able to retire at 55 on a final salary pension and we won't get involved in any more illegal wars, and we'll have a national health system we can be proud of, and the streets of London will be paved with gold, and, and (Nurse!)