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I had a wild idea today that was born of my desire to retire to Spain. I've been checking out expat blogs and, if I'm not mistaken, this all began when I checked out Alcalaina's blog. From her blog I clicked on something which brought me to a website with a bunch of expat blogs. I found heaven!! and besides that I found a bunch of young (in their 20s I imagine, which is young from my perspective) people teaching English in Spain. and I am so envious of their experiences. This morning I clicked on a link for a program to teach English in Spain and from there "who should teach English abroad". It was after I clicked that link and I found this:
Mid-career professionals and retirees often want a change of pace or a thoughtful way to explore the world and continue learning and sharing, and CIEE Teach Abroad programs fulfill all these desires.
Then I thought "why couldn't I do this?" If all goes well, and this is assuming Obama gets reelected which means my retirement wad won't get mucked up by the idiots on the other side....but I digress!! If all goes well, we could move in 8 years instead of 10!! We had our semi annual meeting with our financial advisor and he thinks we just might be able to do it!! Hubby would retire at age 65 (2019), I would TRY REALLY HARD to work one more year(blech, blech, BLECH!!) while he spends that year getting everything ready to go. I'll be 60 (a very young 60 I might add, heh) and feel I'll still have alot of energy. so, when I read that blurb about retirees teaching it really intrigued me!

I have always wondered if I would have been happier as a teacher. I think I would have been a good one. and when I have trained others at work I am always told that I teach well. so.....could this be a way to fulfill another dream of mine? I already have a degree in Spanish, am a native English speaker. the only thing I would need is to get certified, I think. Still researching this so not completely sure yet.

So, this could also be a way for us to not draw on my social security until I reach that magical year (which could go from 65 to 67, if it hasn't already....grrrr). I have some other ideas to make money those first few years but more research is needed.

Could this also be a way to obtain retirement visas? I realize this could be a stretch but wondered if our dream to retire to Spain could be made easier if I get a teaching job? and then once we're there, apply for retirement visas? I have no idea so naturally came here wondering if anyone here might know.

You can call me crazy, it's okay. I can take it :D Just wondering if anyone's got any thoughts on this. This is for about 8 years from now assuming our financial plan doesn't go off course. We are thinking about Plan B ideas if our dream of retiring to Spain doesn't pan out for whatever reason. and I have much more research to do from that perspective.

okay, will stop rambling now. thanks for listening. gosh, this got long!!
 

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I had a wild idea today that was born of my desire to retire to Spain. I've been checking out expat blogs and, if I'm not mistaken, this all began when I checked out Alcalaina's blog. From her blog I clicked on something which brought me to a website with a bunch of expat blogs. I found heaven!! and besides that I found a bunch of young (in their 20s I imagine, which is young from my perspective) people teaching English in Spain. and I am so envious of their experiences. This morning I clicked on a link for a program to teach English in Spain and from there "who should teach English abroad". It was after I clicked that link and I found this:

Then I thought "why couldn't I do this?" If all goes well, and this is assuming Obama gets reelected which means my retirement wad won't get mucked up by the idiots on the other side....but I digress!! If all goes well, we could move in 8 years instead of 10!! We had our semi annual meeting with our financial advisor and he thinks we just might be able to do it!! Hubby would retire at age 65 (2019), I would TRY REALLY HARD to work one more year(blech, blech, BLECH!!) while he spends that year getting everything ready to go. I'll be 60 (a very young 60 I might add, heh) and feel I'll still have alot of energy. so, when I read that blurb about retirees teaching it really intrigued me!

I have always wondered if I would have been happier as a teacher. I think I would have been a good one. and when I have trained others at work I am always told that I teach well. so.....could this be a way to fulfill another dream of mine? I already have a degree in Spanish, am a native English speaker. the only thing I would need is to get certified, I think. Still researching this so not completely sure yet.

So, this could also be a way for us to not draw on my social security until I reach that magical year (which could go from 65 to 67, if it hasn't already....grrrr). I have some other ideas to make money those first few years but more research is needed.

Could this also be a way to obtain retirement visas? I realize this could be a stretch but wondered if our dream to retire to Spain could be made easier if I get a teaching job? and then once we're there, apply for retirement visas? I have no idea so naturally came here wondering if anyone here might know.

You can call me crazy, it's okay. I can take it :D Just wondering if anyone's got any thoughts on this. This is for about 8 years from now assuming our financial plan doesn't go off course. We are thinking about Plan B ideas if our dream of retiring to Spain doesn't pan out for whatever reason. and I have much more research to do from that perspective.

okay, will stop rambling now. thanks for listening. gosh, this got long!!
You would probably make the perfect teacher. Somebody who wants to teach and with experience of living - a powerful combination. Another thing is if they would let you, and this is where we need Halydia, and she's not around...
I think the low down is that as an American you'll find it almost impossible to find work here, but search for threads, especially where Halydia has been active.
Also xabiachica will probably be able to post something about teaching.
Fingers crossed.
 

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I spent most of my life in teaching, working from the bottom up to end i/c of a school.
Not sure if everyone would agree but in my experience, teachers are born, not made.
Yes, you can teach someone the skills of classroom management and lesson planning and they can have perfect and evolving knowledge of their subject. But there's an indefinable 'something' that sets the 'real' teacher apart from the rest. Call it charisma, personality, whatever, but it's there.
I think you need two qualities to be any kind of a teacher: a sense of humour and a sense of proportion. You need to give respect to get respect. Important too is having high expectations for your students, regardless of background - and by that I don't mean giving a false sense of (undeserved)self-esteem.
 

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Research your family tree for Eire decendents.....one of my mates in Connecticut did and found some long lost Irishman in his roots.
And he's now the proud owner of an EU passport anytime he wants to take advantage of it.
Providing you've got the money they don't exactly make you jump through hoops to get it.
 
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IMHO what is crazy is waiting 8 years. So many things (health/finances) can change. I left my paying profession at 42 (bronze parachute) but the idea came to me when I first started and after reading the company newsletter obit's. People who had retired say 1-2 years earlier were dying off in droves. The actuaries of the world figured out how to milk us to retirement...

my advice...run don't walk to retirement. do whatever you can...sell everything...lighten the load...and never put yourself in a position where you can't walk away in 30 minutes with four suit cases...if Spain is not in your budget, then look at countries that will allow you to vacate the machine now...South America is nice this time of year :)
 

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IMHO what is crazy is waiting 8 years. So many things (health/finances) can change. I left my paying profession at 42 (bronze parachute) but the idea came to me when I first started and after reading the company newsletter obit's. People who had retired say 1-2 years earlier were dying off in droves. The actuaries of the world figured out how to milk us to retirement...

my advice...run don't walk to retirement. do whatever you can...sell everything...lighten the load...and never put yourself in a position where you can't walk away in 30 minutes with four suit cases...if Spain is not in your budget, then look at countries that will allow you to vacate the machine now...South America is nice this time of year :)

We did similar to you but not as young as you...
We didn't sell everything either. We kept all the contents of our home but sold properties we owned.
We planned to spend time in quite a few countries before returning to the UK but after a while Spain got a grip on us.
But you are so right.. I knew a teacher who dropped dead of a heart attack in the school car park on his last day at work.
 

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I was 43 when I walked (or sailed actually) away from a lucrative career in IT with not enough to live on but still a lot of energy. I wouldn't do much different if I had my time over again. I wouldn't have bought the yacht though - they cost a lot of money.
 

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if you think THAT is crazy...

If you think your idea is crazy, I am sure you'd think mine is more crazy! After divorce many years ago, found myself without any property, money, savings, NOTHING, worked hard as a parent and in my jobs but now at 54 I still have nothing materially speaking. I did a quick visit to Spain, decided I loved everything about it, came back to the UK now, STILL have no work for the last 2 years, fed up, so I am leaving here again, going back to Spain next month with NOTHING. I don't care if I have to live in my old car to start with, anything is better than the UK and dead end just work all hours and have no savings. So, with two teenagers and me, we're off back to Spain with no money, no house to sell, all we have is education, optimism and - best thing is, when you have nothing, you have nothing to lose!!!

Liz
 
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If you think your idea is crazy, I am sure you'd think mine is more crazy! After divorce many years ago, found myself without any property, money, savings, NOTHING, worked hard as a parent and in my jobs but now at 54 I still have nothing materially speaking. I did a quick visit to Spain, decided I loved everything about it, came back to the UK now, STILL have no work for the last 2 years, fed up, so I am leaving here again, going back to Spain next month with NOTHING. I don't care if I have to live in my old car to start with, anything is better than the UK and dead end just work all hours and have no savings. So, with two teenagers and me, we're off back to Spain with no money, no house to sell, all we have is education, optimism and - best thing is, when you have nothing, you have nothing to lose!!!

Liz
Welcome to the rebel camp! IMHO dump the car...it's just slightly less expensive than a yacht. :)
 

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If you think your idea is crazy, I am sure you'd think mine is more crazy! After divorce many years ago, found myself without any property, money, savings, NOTHING, worked hard as a parent and in my jobs but now at 54 I still have nothing materially speaking. I did a quick visit to Spain, decided I loved everything about it, came back to the UK now, STILL have no work for the last 2 years, fed up, so I am leaving here again, going back to Spain next month with NOTHING. I don't care if I have to live in my old car to start with, anything is better than the UK and dead end just work all hours and have no savings. So, with two teenagers and me, we're off back to Spain with no money, no house to sell, all we have is education, optimism and - best thing is, when you have nothing, you have nothing to lose!!!

Liz

Only several kilos when you can't afford to eat!!:D I doubt too if the police would leave you to sleep peacefully in your car for long!!
Are your teenagers of school age, I wonder? Will all three of you be looking for work?
If so, your chances are slim to non-existent especially if you don't speak fluent Spanish. At least in the UK you have the state to fall back on for health, rent etc.
Nothing like that here.
Have a look at the other threads about employment -or rather unemployment - in Spain.
There is an alternative which is more sensible at the moment which is to investigate schemes whereby you receive board and lodging in return for work.
Until you have a fixed address in Spain you won't be able to work legally and the Government is quite rightly cracking down on people who work on the black and cheat the system. More than five million Spanish people are looking for work.
So think about that option, about which there is information on this Forum.
I believe one of our regular posters came to Spain via that kind of scheme and is comfortably settled.
 
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We did similar to you but not as young as you...
We didn't sell everything either. We kept all the contents of our home but sold properties we owned.
We planned to spend time in quite a few countries before returning to the UK but after a while Spain got a grip on us.
But you are so right.. I knew a teacher who dropped dead of a heart attack in the school car park on his last day at work.
We put 13 boxes in storage...11 boxes are xmas decorations...the other two family bibles and photos...my best friend in Colombia is a brit (go figure), he brought all his worldly belongings (thankfully 1000's of albums) and re-retrofitted his home for 220...even brought the dishwasher...he like me left at 42..(we cracked up)...I miss him and our chin wags...and we are the only two gringos in the communa...
 

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Thank you for your thoughts. I have done a lot of research and not kidding myself on how silly I am :) but if I wait for this or that, it will never happen! I would probably attach a decent caravan to my car first though and park on an approved site!! I am assigned to writing some technical books so what better place to do that? I guess money from that won't come in any time soon though. I hadn't realised the crisis is Spain re jobs is so bad, looked around the forums here, a bit scary really. Not much better in UK... I have never been out of work before. Rather than take jobs from the Spanish and local folk, I'd be looking at setting up business later on. I do admire some people's spirit of adventure and those who've just dropped everything and have now made a new life in Spain! Thanks again...








Only several kilos when you can't afford to eat!!:D I doubt too if the police would leave you to sleep peacefully in your car for long!!
Are your teenagers of school age, I wonder? Will all three of you be looking for work?
If so, your chances are slim to non-existent especially if you don't speak fluent Spanish. At least in the UK you have the state to fall back on for health, rent etc.
Nothing like that here.
Have a look at the other threads about employment -or rather unemployment - in Spain.
There is an alternative which is more sensible at the moment which is to investigate schemes whereby you receive board and lodging in return for work.
Until you have a fixed address in Spain you won't be able to work legally and the Government is quite rightly cracking down on people who work on the black and cheat the system. More than five million Spanish people are looking for work.
So think about that option, about which there is information on this Forum.
I believe one of our regular posters came to Spain via that kind of scheme and is comfortably settled.
 

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Thank you for your thoughts. I have done a lot of research and not kidding myself on how silly I am :) but if I wait for this or that, it will never happen! I would probably attach a decent caravan to my car first though and park on an approved site!! I am assigned to writing some technical books so what better place to do that? I guess money from that won't come in any time soon though. I hadn't realised the crisis is Spain re jobs is so bad, looked around the forums here, a bit scary really. Not much better in UK... I have never been out of work before. Rather than take jobs from the Spanish and local folk, I'd be looking at setting up business later on. I do admire some people's spirit of adventure and those who've just dropped everything and have now made a new life in Spain! Thanks again...
We did that..well, sort of...but we had some dosh behind us as we sold all we possessed in terms of properties.
You are obviously a highly skilled person -I kneel humbly before anyone 'technical' - and you could do well.
But just in case you need somewhere to park your van, I seem to remember that poster's name was Shoeman Pete.
Alcalaina knows about things like that too.
Good luck:)
 

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We did that..well, sort of...but we had some dosh behind us as we sold all we possessed in terms of properties.
You are obviously a highly skilled person -I kneel humbly before anyone 'technical' - and you could do well.
But just in case you need somewhere to park your van, I seem to remember that poster's name was Shoeman Pete.
Alcalaina knows about things like that too.
Good luck:)
That's very useful to know, thank you again, will look them up!
 

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If you think your idea is crazy, I am sure you'd think mine is more crazy! After divorce many years ago, found myself without any property, money, savings, NOTHING, worked hard as a parent and in my jobs but now at 54 I still have nothing materially speaking. I did a quick visit to Spain, decided I loved everything about it, came back to the UK now, STILL have no work for the last 2 years, fed up, so I am leaving here again, going back to Spain next month with NOTHING. I don't care if I have to live in my old car to start with, anything is better than the UK and dead end just work all hours and have no savings. So, with two teenagers and me, we're off back to Spain with no money, no house to sell, all we have is education, optimism and - best thing is, when you have nothing, you have nothing to lose!!!

Liz
Liz....if I was you I'd look for Brits who've gone back and have houses sitting empty.
You may find someone who would be happy for you to housesit for them.
 

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IMHO what is crazy is waiting 8 years. So many things (health/finances) can change. I left my paying profession at 42 (bronze parachute) but the idea came to me when I first started and after reading the company newsletter obit's. People who had retired say 1-2 years earlier were dying off in droves. The actuaries of the world figured out how to milk us to retirement...

my advice...run don't walk to retirement. do whatever you can...sell everything...lighten the load...and never put yourself in a position where you can't walk away in 30 minutes with four suit cases...if Spain is not in your budget, then look at countries that will allow you to vacate the machine now...South America is nice this time of year :)
yabut...I got this 12 year old kid, who has lots of friends and is big into figure skating here. one reason for the 8 year wait. I hear you tho. things to consider....thank you!
 

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and so some other thoughts....while the rest of my house wakes up....and now I have coffee....mmmmmmmmmmmm

the husband does NOT do anything rash. so, for me, the sell everything and jump ship right now is not an option for me. tho if I were single and not a mom..... altho my daughter might consider it a great adventure. bottom line, gotta work with the hubby on this one. why, it took him an extra 3 years to decide to have kids!! but I digress....

so part of the planning that must take place is financial. we must have enough money to survive w/o this teaching thing or whatever other ideas pop into my head between now and then to have some supplemental income. There are lots of young Americans teaching English in Spain right now, I have been reading their blogs. so, I do know that it's a possibility. and yes pesky wesky, it's if they let me do it. I guess at this point, I can plan to try. It can't hurt and it may just help is what I'm thinking. if nothing else, it gives me even more incentive to keep up my Spanish.

thanks for all the replies. turned out to be an interesting thread ;)
 

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Research your family tree for Eire decendents.....one of my mates in Connecticut did and found some long lost Irishman in his roots.
And he's now the proud owner of an EU passport anytime he wants to take advantage of it.
Providing you've got the money they don't exactly make you jump through hoops to get it.
Does this only apply to Ireland? How far back can you go? I was just looking today at my German great grandparents and wondering about this.
 

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Research your family tree for Eire decendents.....one of my mates in Connecticut did and found some long lost Irishman in his roots.
And he's now the proud owner of an EU passport anytime he wants to take advantage of it.
Providing you've got the money they don't exactly make you jump through hoops to get it.
hmmmm, well being of Romanian/Ukrainian(but really Moldovan) descent myself, I doubt that would help. altho hubby's got distant Irish roots....yea, it'd be a long stretch! an interesting idea, likely won't pan out for us.
 
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