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It is the same for the yearly stickers. Since they are moving away from those on the new plates, there have not been any 2015 stickers for motorcycles yet this year. I also doubt that they will produce any since it is going away.

I was also told that my plate number for my truck will not change just the style of plate. We will see how that transaction goes. I can imagine that I will get a stamp on my OR stating "New Plate Not Available" (for a while sir). It only took me 18 months to get a replacement of one license plate that disappeared.

So this year I expect to be stopped by the police to check my registration for the "not available stamp". Another opportunity for shake down attempts....
 

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I registered my vehicle this month but have no tags and the stamp on the registration says "No tags issued" What about my new license plates, I'm wondering if I need to cough up another 450 peso's for this even though I paid the "Fixer" to handle this for me.

I can't stand dealing with the LTO anymore I've gone to fixer's 100% of the time and get this... the people inside the LTO (Unsure if it was staff or other fixers) gave my wife a hard time because she went in to get the paperwork and walked out, I was getting the car checked for emissions (another joke and half) and gave to the fixer we've been using for the last couple years (he was a bodyguard for us many years ago) so they (?) they have their own buddies inside who do the fixing...Lol. So it's gotten worse in our area.

I got a ticket last year for not wearing my seatbelt, I had to pay another fixer, my wife's cousin to stand there all day long to pay it but I had to stand in line for an hour so the LTO officer could look at me and decided my fine, can you believe that stuff.

How come this can't be fixed? It's just open and blatant.
 

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How come this can't be fixed? It's just open and blatant.
It won't ever get fixed until people are earning real wages.

I use my Insurance Agent as my fixer. I only have to do the emissions and then straight to her office. She brings someone over to do the stencils and works the paperwork. She did tell me it is 450php additional this year for the "new" plates that we won't be seeing anytime soon...
 

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It's simple law of supply and demand.
Someone supplies the bribe the demand for it goes up.
No one bribes demand goes down.
They are doing it because it is easy money.

BUT corruption of this scale at any echelon of government is the norm, it's up to us to decide if we take part in feeding the monster.
 

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It's simple law of supply and demand.
Someone supplies the bribe the demand for it goes up.
No one bribes demand goes down.
They are doing it because it is easy money.

BUT corruption of this scale at any echelon of government is the norm, it's up to us to decide if we take part in feeding the monster.
It's just too bad that human decency AND honest enforcement of laws don't exist here. Then not only would things work right for everyone but these "fixers" and those within a government agency that allow it would be behind bars where they belong :mad:..
 
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It's simple law of supply and demand.
Someone supplies the bribe the demand for it goes up.
No one bribes demand goes down.
They are doing it because it is easy money.

BUT corruption of this scale at any echelon of government is the norm, it's up to us to decide if we take part in feeding the monster.
I have been standing there or spending an entire day getting my drivers license renewal or registration and it got tiring also the grumpy faces the one cashier, she speaks english but isn't so happy she didn't get a tip so she speaks fast with me or even the PA system when they call names it very brief you really got to pay attention, If I'm told to go to the other windows I get the stare down by all the employee's inside usually 3, they don't care that I'm an expat and the head guy always gave me the Cheapskate's here... look.

LTO looks modernized but the computers aren't used in any way to make it faster to pay your bill and only one person controls the money in and out. In the states I could be in and out in 10 minutes and before I left I could do it all online.

Icing on the cake came to me when the same woman or guy (several actually) get up for the 10th time to pay the cashier (so a full-time employee and money generator for the LTO) also known as a fixer. The compound is a mix of more than one compound, this is another no-no that's practiced or allowed.

Bottom line your made to feel like your bothering everyone as a foreigner because they don't get tips and they make you wait, with extra questions asked, long grim faces the Philippine citizen won't put up with this treatment and avoid the place at all costs, except for the poor those that can afford the extra tip costs. To make it more painful, your stuck watching the "Big Show" or some sort of "Willing Willey" type show it's like throwing gas on the fire for me.

Media and the LTO wanted information on how to fix their offices a couple years ago but I think the department head got busted gambling at a Casino (not sure if anything happened though), I don't see the Philippine citizen with signs and protesting outside this spot, if your not careful you can be run over trying to cross the cross walk to the LTO office.
 

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I have been standing there or spending an entire day getting my drivers license renewal or registration and it got tiring also the grumpy faces the one cashier, she speaks english but isn't so happy she didn't get a tip so she speaks fast with me or even the PA system when they call names it very brief you really got to pay attention, If I'm told to go to the other windows I get the stare down by all the employee's inside usually 3, they don't care that I'm an expat and the head guy always gave me the Cheapskate's here... look.

LTO looks modernized but the computers aren't used in any way to make it faster to pay your bill and only one person controls the money in and out. In the states I could be in and out in 10 minutes and before I left I could do it all online.

Icing on the cake came to me when the same woman or guy (several actually) get up for the 10th time to pay the cashier (so a full-time employee and money generator for the LTO) also known as a fixer. The compound is a mix of more than one compound, this is another no-no that's practiced or allowed.

Bottom line your made to feel like your bothering everyone as a foreigner because they don't get tips and they make you wait, with extra questions asked, long grim faces the Philippine citizen won't put up with this treatment and avoid the place at all costs, except for the poor those that can afford the extra tip costs. To make it more painful, your stuck watching the "Big Show" or some sort of "Willing Willey" type show it's like throwing gas on the fire for me.

Media and the LTO wanted information on how to fix their offices a couple years ago but I think the department head got busted gambling at a Casino (not sure if anything happened though), I don't see the Philippine citizen with signs and protesting outside this spot, if your not careful you can be run over trying to cross the cross walk to the LTO office.
It really can be quite an experience for sure. Been there-done that. Where we live now, for renewal my wife and I go to SM Clark for a day of fun and shopping. I'm at the LTO inside the mall soon as it opens at 10am. Workers at the LTO are extremely friendly each time. My wife does the paperwork for me and we are out of there in less than one hour with the new license. Then we still have the rest of the day for shopping there or over at Marquee Mall. Really easy and pain free.
 

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What a pleasure to see someone actually can accomplish this task in a reasonable time Maybe Ill just drive up there for a long weekend and try my luck
 

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Mcalleboy, from your location i presume you are using the LTO at Pila?
Just did my drivers license at the said officre last week and the whole process took 75 mins from start to finish. Also registered one of my cars in April and again it took around one hour. Never paid a centavo extra to any fixers or staff.
Years ago the renewing of my drivers license took a lot longer, however these days i find dealing with any government offices in Laguna a breeze.
I always tell foreigners if you are dealing with government officials here in the Philippines its a game. Sort of play by their rules and its amazing how efficient and helpful they can actually be to foreigners. Start with an negative attitude towards them and they will play their little games all day long.
 

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Mcalleboy, from your location i presume you are using the LTO at Pila?
Just did my drivers license at the said officre last week and the whole process took 75 mins from start to finish. Also registered one of my cars in April and again it took around one hour. Never paid a centavo extra to any fixers or staff.
Years ago the renewing of my drivers license took a lot longer, however these days i find dealing with any government offices in Laguna a breeze.
I always tell foreigners if you are dealing with government officials here in the Philippines its a game. Sort of play by their rules and its amazing how efficient and helpful they can actually be to foreigners. Start with an negative attitude towards them and they will play their little games all day long.
You lost me when you said you "always tell foreigners" and assume that were all rude. are you aware there's only one cashier that works at that place and she takes her lunch breaks there at her desk, the place is full of people including fixers that handle several clients, if you don't pay anything and it's a Friday not only will you be waiting all day on Friday but we'll see you back bright an early on Monday.

The place is a cash cow and made that way, you won't get the privileged to see the cashier for at least a couple hours unless you have clout or money.
 

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You lost me when you said you "always tell foreigners" and assume that were all rude. are you aware there's only one cashier that works at that place and she takes her lunch breaks there at her desk, the place is full of people including fixers that handle several clients, if you don't pay anything and it's a Friday not only will you be waiting all day on Friday but we'll see you back bright an early on Monday.

The place is a cash cow and made that way, you won't get the privileged to see the cashier for at least a couple hours unless you have clout or money.
No, i dont assume all foreigners are rude :p Yes, i know the one cashier that works in the office. She is from Nagcarlan and has a habit of not getting to work by 8am ;)
Never bothered me, as i get there at 8, do step 1,2,3 or however many before its time to pay. Left last time at 9.15 and was back home by 10. I have enough money to live and i certainly dont pretend to have any clout or that i am any cleverer than the locals.
PS It was me that told you to go to Santa Rosa earlier this year to report. Little tip for next year. The office has moved closer to Santa Rosa municipal hall. Bit of a pain to get there, as the traffic is bad at certain times of day.
 
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