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Landlord Refusing to Hand Over Deposit or Monies Paid for Invoices

5.7K views 29 replies 13 participants last post by  xgarb  
#1 ·
I rented an apartment in Valencia, Spain as an American doing part of my medical residency here.


The contract was for 11 months - starting Nov 1 2017 to end of September 2018.

I paid a 1400 euro deposit + 1400 for utilities.


The contract stated:


La fianza de 2800€, entregada como depósito será devuelta al ARRENDATARIO en el plazo de QUINCE días desde la entrega de las llaves, mediante transferencia bancaria en una cuenta designada por el ARRENDATARIO, una vez inspeccionado convenientemente el piso, restando el importe aproximado correspondiente a las facturas de suministro pendientes de pago.

Este importe aproximado será resultado de la ponderación de las facturas de suministro previas


I left the apartment on 15 September and gave him the keys then. When he saw the apartment on 15 September he said it was in perfect condition.


It is now October 19 and he has not returned my deposit and has not shown any bills / invoices to me. I feel he is trying to keep my money. He now is saying I damaged the property. He did not make any mention of any damage till today - October 19 -


However, my question is given that 15 days is over and he made no mention of this prior to the cut-off date of 15 October. Is he permitted by law to keep my money?

What can I do ? 2800 is a lot for a new graduate
 
#2 ·
He "said" it was in perfect condition?

What gets said, gets forgotten. Do you have any documentary proof that the apartment was ok when you handed him the keys / did the inspection?

You may struggle in a legal battle without such evidence as he will simply say that there were damages.

In any case, by law the landlord cannot keep the money from a deposit in his own account during the period of the tenancy, in Madrid at least there is a central deposit for the lodging of deposits. You could ask the local authority if there is such a thing where you were and mention casually to the landlord that you are investigating with the authorities, see if that wakes him up! Landlords which keep the deposits in their own accounts usually have more to hide than just that.
 
#3 ·
This happened to me and from what I hear it is common practice. Some say the word deposit in Spanish means gift. Also whoever has the money in their pocket owns it. In Spain you can have as many laws, rules and regulations you like, but if there is no realistic cost effective system to enforce them they are worthless.
 
#8 ·
The EU small claims court is for international claims within the EU only. The OP does not state where they are now. If in Spain it would be a domestic matter, if in another EU country it could be the EU small claims court, if back in US any claim for €2,800 is probably not going to be cost effective. In any event it seems the OP has no documentary evidence of no damage when leaving the property. The OP has been turned over, apparently standard practice in Spain.:amen:
 
#9 ·
I think the lesson to take away from this is - to always have a witness to hand when the Landlord comes to
inspect the apartment before you leave and if you think the occasion merits it - a witness who's your
Lawyer or a Gestor.

Although I wouldn't tell the Landlord that - just let the Landlord turn up as if it's just the two of you.
 
#12 ·
Hi,
It's a shame that your first post is about getting ripped off in Spain. Seems to be a spate of first time posters with a hard luck story... I'm glad nothing like that has ever happened to me!

Most people arrange with the landlord not to pay the last month's rent and the deposit is used up in this way. There are of course landlords who just want to rip you off, but as in every country in the world, most people are not trying to fleece the foreigner. I would try to see the landlord face to face and very reasonably ask what he is doing. If you don't get your money back, then walk away - you're a doctor, you'll make that money up easily!!
As for the doctor thing, could you tell us how you went about doing residency here, what steps you had to go through?
 
#19 ·
The trick is very familiar to me-not in Spain but in Germany.
I too had a landlord who was not really serious about repaying the bail.
Luckily, I experienced it from other tenants and stopped the payment three months before the extract.
He still tried to claim the remaining euros.. Vain. :cool:

btw: GSM 's usually are with camera. Not only for selfies...
 
#29 ·
You could try that, but generally speaking, the authorities in Spain do not act quickly, and the Spanish know that. My personal opinion is that it won't worry him much.

The court action is the one which will hit him in the pocket, at least in the short term because he will have to pay a lawyer or at least a "procurador" to defend him.

But yes, don't expect it to be quick. My case is currently suspended because one of the defendants is applying for "legal aid" as she claims that she can't afford to pay the procurador. My heart bleeds. It took the court nearly a year to serve the summons...