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" Valencia is offering one-week courses at a cost of 100 euros, to prostitutes or those considering going into the profession, which include information on legislation, economic analysis of the profession and sexual techniques. "

If that's the best they can manage , things must be getting desperate !:(
 

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" Valencia is offering one-week courses at a cost of 100 euros, to prostitutes or those considering going into the profession, which include information on legislation, economic analysis of the profession and sexual techniques. "

If that's the best they can manage , things must be getting desperate !:(
What?????????????????

So if my daughter can't get a job, at least she can go on a course like this??????????????????

Please give a link Gus, so I can write and express my disgust!!
 

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I actually think its a good idea.... as long as, as part of this scheme, the prostitutes who qualify have access to health checks and police help when needed.

I know its a subject of ridicule and, in some cases, moral outrage, plus, some will say that, with the state Valencia is in right now, this is not the time to be paying for training for prostitutes... But, as Gus said, this has been going on for 8 years, and surely this way is better than pretending to ignore prostitution altogether?
 

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Joking aside, prostitution has rightly been described as the oldest profession. The sex industry is the best earner in the world....no matter how poor the country, there will be porn, bordellos, tarts and all the associated paraphernalia.

As such, it makes sense to regulate the industry. A couple of years ago I had dinner with a delegate from the IUS (International Union of Sex Workers) which is affiliated to the TUC. This woman, an Oxford graduate, specialised in bondage and domination and had several well-known clients, which, like a true professional, she refused to name in spite of my continual urging (and suggestions that if they were Tory or Lib-Dem politicos she should thrash more energetically).
I agreed to help with campaign literature etc. - they are aiming to change the law which states that two or more sex-workers in the same premises constitutes a 'disorderly house' and is therefore a crime.

A regulated sex industry would include sex education, the need to protect minors, measures to deal with all sexually-transmitted diseases and of course taxation, as is the case in Germany, where brothels are legalised, are discreet and are subject to regular and frequent medical inspection.

So Valencia is on the right track.
 

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I actually think its a good idea.... as long as, as part of this scheme, the prostitutes who qualify have access to health checks and police help when needed.

I know its a subject of ridicule and, in some cases, moral outrage, plus, some will say that, with the state Valencia is in right now, this is not the time to be paying for training for prostitutes... But, as Gus said, this has been going on for 8 years, and surely this way is better than pretending to ignore prostitution altogether?
Quite. Nothing is going to stop it so might as well make it safe for prostitute and client.
 

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If you're talking about those who are already prostitutes, fair enough - maybe. Certainly prostitution has always been here and always will be. But what I object to is giving money to courses about prostitution for those who are "considering going into the profession" (quote from post one). I would prefer women, because most of them are going to be women, to be given training in other areas.
However, I did think it was a council project, but I see that it's a private company, so then it's up to the individual.
Maybe in the future we'll be saying "Ah yes my daughter is helping finance her studies by working as a part time prostitute" instead of saying "Ah yes my daughter is helping finance her studies by working as a part time shop assistant"? But would we be saying it comfortably and with pride, I wonder?
 

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If you're talking about those who are already prostitutes, fair enough - maybe. Certainly prostitution has always been here and always will be. But what I object to is giving money to courses about prostitution for those who are "considering going into the profession" (quote from post one). I would prefer women, because most of them are going to be women, to be given training in other areas.
However, I did think it was a council project, but I see that it's a private company, so then it's up to the individual.
Maybe in the future we'll be saying "Ah yes my daughter is helping finance her studies by working as a part time prostitute" instead of saying "Ah yes my daughter is helping finance her studies by working as a part time shop assistant"? But would we be saying it comfortably and with pride, I wonder?
you've clearly never watched Jeremy Kyle :eek:

I have to say that's one thing I DON'T miss from English TV - & there doesn't appear to be a Spanish equivalent
 

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If you're talking about those who are already prostitutes, fair enough - maybe. Certainly prostitution has always been here and always will be. But what I object to is giving money to courses about prostitution for those who are "considering going into the profession" (quote from post one). I would prefer women, because most of them are going to be women, to be given training in other areas.
However, I did think it was a council project, but I see that it's a private company, so then it's up to the individual.
Maybe in the future we'll be saying "Ah yes my daughter is helping finance her studies by working as a part time prostitute" instead of saying "Ah yes my daughter is helping finance her studies by working as a part time shop assistant"? But would we be saying it comfortably and with pride, I wonder?
I am being totally honest when I say that it wouldnt bother me if any of mine turned to prostitution as long as it was regulated, clean and they do it well, with dignity! Not those dirty, street corner types, who offer quickies and only do it to feed a drug habit!

That said to provide a course is ridiculous. You've either got it or you havent. But it needs to be done with style and regulated!

Jo xxx
 

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you've clearly never watched Jeremy Kyle :eek:

I have to say that's one thing I DON'T miss from English TV - & there doesn't appear to be a Spanish equivalent
No, I haven't.
Is it one of those where they have the whole arguing family on including the half sisters and husband who beat up his wife and then went to live next door with a woman twice his age with 14 kids by 14 different men???
 

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No, I haven't.
Is it one of those where they have the whole arguing family on including the half sisters and husband who beat up his wife and then went to live next door with a woman twice his age with 14 kids by 14 different men???
I swear the guests are the customers in the shop I work in!! I didnt think people like that really existed til I returned to the UK!

Jo xxx
 

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No, I haven't.
Is it one of those where they have the whole arguing family on including the half sisters and husband who beat up his wife and then went to live next door with a woman twice his age with 14 kids by 14 different men???
yep - one of those!!!

is there a Spanish version?
 

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yep - one of those!!!

is there a Spanish version?
El diario de Patricia is that kind of programme, but I don't know if it's very extreme. There's also hermano mayor which can be pretty scary at times. Lots of fu++ed up teenagers throwing stuff at their parents basically.
 

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I am being totally honest when I say that it wouldnt bother me if any of mine turned to prostitution as long as it was regulated, clean and they do it well, with dignity! Not those dirty, street corner types, who offer quickies and only do it to feed a drug habit!

That said to provide a course is ridiculous. You've either got it or you havent. But it needs to be done with style and regulated!

Jo xxx
I agree with you.
If one of my daughters turned to prostitution they know I would support them.
However, they also know that I would worry about them and would want them to make sure they were as safe as it is possible to be.

As to the course....
Looking at some of the links, it appears it is run by a man.
I would prefer the course to be run by a woman who has been a prostitute herself and knows the ropes (no pun intended for bondage fans...). And I would also like to see emphasis on how to take care of yourself as well as on techniques.
 
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