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Hello,

Posting this information as I could not find much help and suggestions for people applying as Teachers in Australia.

We have applied for a PR. My wife who is a teacher is the primary applicant. We took help from a consultant for filing of our application and some post landing help. They are NOT MARA registered. We did our own filing, with help and assistance from them.

My Wife is a Teacher and has 9 years experience. Unlike in India, Australia values Tutor Experience and rank them above conventional teaching ( Heard it from a friend in Australia). I am an IT Manager with 13 years experience in IELTS, IT, Banking and Financial(IT) Domains.

We applied for assessment on 3rd January along with all documents supporting my wife's education, trainings, experience, references, teacher training and most importantly - 45 days Supervised Teaching experience. This is absolutely important as applications have been rejected without this evidence.

http://www.expatforum.com/expats/au...ching-practice-requirement-advice-needed.html

While the documentation was being done, we started our groundwork of checking online about the opportunities that we may explore. To work as a teacher in Australia, you need to register yourself with the registering authority. Every state has different rules and fees, so you may want to check their respective websites. We have chosen Victoria to start with and have registered on their site. Post a assessment result we would pay the fees.

VIT - Victorian Institute of Technology | Melbourne Australia

In Australia, most of the public jobs are allocated though centralised staffing in each state (or territory). The exception to this is Victoria. The first thing you will need to do is go to the websites of these Departments of Education and Training. The your best bet would be the ACT, WA, NT or SA (for rural and remote). You will then need to go to the registration council in the state or territory you are interested in a register with them.

Our Assessment file is with AITSL (Home | Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership) which is the Assessing Authority for teachers applying to teach in Australia. They charge AUD 550 for assessment. The rules keep changing. The new rule says -

**English language proficiency requirements from 1 January 2013
1. An Academic version of the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) Test Report Form (TRF) that shows:
• a score of at least 7.0 for Reading and Writing; and
• a score of at least 8.0 for Speaking and Listening.
The IELTS test scores must appear on a single IELTS TRF and be the result of a test undertaken during the 12 month period prior to submitting an application.
OR
2. An applicant has completed study assessed by AITSL as comparable to at least four years of full-time (or part-time equivalent) higher education (university) study, that results in a qualification/s comparable to the education level of an Australian bachelor degree or higher, (must include a recognised initial teacher education qualification) undertaken in Australia, Canada, the Republic of Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom or the United States of America.
All applications received by AITSL post-marked from 1 January 2013 will be assessed against the new English language proficiency requirements
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This rule is effective 1st Jan 2013.

I will keep on posting stuff that we experience and have information about. Posts may be delayed as we both may be busy with our current jobs. In the interim if you have questions feel free to post them. We would revert and try to answer them if we could :) Till then, be happy.
 

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Update -

We received an email from AITSL. Since we had applied AFTER the rules changed, they wanted us to sign and send a form by checking the appropriate boxes -

proceed with assessment of my application

withdraw my application as I am unable to meet the revised criteria.


AND

Yes I will submit additional evidence

No I will not submit additional evidence, please assess my application as is


Since my wife met all the requirements, we thought of requesting them to assess our application as is. However, we agreed to submit additional evidence if needed. Have scanned and sent them the document.

Awaiting reply. Will post updates soon.
 

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Hi
I want to know India's B.Sc(H) is equivalent to what in Australia?
I have done B.Sc(H)Botany from India.Will it be considered a Bachelors degree in Australia?or I need to take 4yrs degree course?
 

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Well, unfortunately we have received a NOT SUITABLE reply from AITSL. The reason being the universities in India conduct 40 days supervised teaching which included micro-teaching,simulated lessons, computer assisted lesson plan plus other practical activities that AITSL does not consider as part of supervised teaching practice.

They require pure, unadulterated 45 days supervised teaching practice which NONE (if I am correct) of the universities in India provide. The principal's letter which we had provided along with the application did not suffice neither will the University's letter would mean much, they said. So in short, teachers in India unless they have a full 45 days supervised teaching experience without any additions will not be able to migrate - that's the message I get.

Any ideas, suggestions are welcome :) As of now my PR-for-Aus process is on hold :D
 
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Thats disappointing. You could use the other partners occupation? Or a student visa to bring the teaching qualifications up to requirements?
 

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Thats disappointing. You could use the other partners occupation? Or a student visa to bring the teaching qualifications up to requirements?
I am trying to get the details. But the folks at AITSL were cautious enough not to suggest anything. I would work with some MARA agent or a Lawyer and see if we can do it some other way and as you have suggested. My wife is smarter than me, hence we chose her as the primary applicant :) AITSL said that the criteria may not be the same the next time they evaluate this. Lets see. Will keep all posted. Just wanted to ensure that ppl do not waste their time and hard earned money :)
 

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Thanks Mav3rick that's great information for teachers looking to migirate in the teaching profession. I wish had such infor during my application. I would like to widen this information to include application as a pre primary teacher.
So application and rules are the same as Mav mentioned however instead of having your qualification assessed by VIT, early childhood teachers have to get their assessment from
Australian Children's Education and Care Quality Authority (ACECQA).
They need have proof that you have experience in years 0- 5 so you MUST show that you have worked with children from 0-2 years as well as 3-5 yrs. it's not etheir or otherwise you won't be certified as an Early Childhood Teacher.
It took me 2 years to get all my paper work in order because of lack of knowledge about applications in this field. But thank goodness it's done and now got my grant a few weeks ago. I'm happy to answer any one who have questions for this field.
Thanks Mav for starting this thread!
 

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Thanks Mav3rick that's great information for teachers looking to migirate in the teaching profession. I wish had such infor during my application. I would like to widen this information to include application as a pre primary teacher.
So application and rules are the same as Mav mentioned however instead of having your qualification assessed by VIT, early childhood teachers have to get their assessment from
Australian Children's Education and Care Quality Authority (ACECQA).
They need have proof that you have experience in years 0- 5 so you MUST show that you have worked with children from 0-2 years as well as 3-5 yrs. it's not etheir or otherwise you won't be certified as an Early Childhood Teacher.
It took me 2 years to get all my paper work in order because of lack of knowledge about applications in this field. But thank goodness it's done and now got my grant a few weeks ago. I'm happy to answer any one who have questions for this field.
Thanks Mav for starting this thread!
Hey Anjali,

Congratulations on your grant! As said earlier, I have emailed the Manager stating the obvious about Indian Secondary School teachers not able to qualify for Aus immigration due to this strict rule. She is yet to come back to me. Let me see how this goes. Thanks for the above information. This forum was missing such info on migrating as a teacher. Thanks a ton :)
 

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Hi,

I am new to expat forum. I am writing on behalf of my friend. My friend is a school teacher in India for the past 7-8 years. She has finished Bachelors & Masters degree in Commerce. She also have got Post Graduate Diploma in Early Childhood Education(1 year course with Supervised Teaching practice included) from Osmania University.

Currently, she is trying to migrate to Australia with 2 dependent children. She lost her husband recently. We understand her skills need to be assessed through AECQA.

Could someone please confirm, if we also need to do AITSL assessement if opting for State Sponsorship? Appreciate your assistance.

Regards,
Kiran
 

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Hi Kiran
Yes she will have to do both.
 

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I had applied in the same catogory. In order for her to be assessed in early childhood by ACeCQA she needs to have experience in all ages from 0-5. I hope she has experience in 0-2 years and 3-5. They are quite particular with their assessment. I had done my ASILS first and then used that as one of the document to show the level of my educational qualification in term of Australia. They may ask you to get it assessd by Australian Education International (AEI), through the National Office of Overseas Skills Recognition (AEI-NOOSR), (provides official information and advice on the comparability of overseas qualifications with Australian qualifications.) however they will accept the assessment from AIlST.
 

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Thanks Anjali,

Yes, She has experience from 0-2 and 3-8 year old in the Baby Care, Pre-Primary and Primary schools. AITSL requires IELTS qualification that she is planning to take in Aug. In parallel, we are planning to get the NOOSR qualification and AECQA assesment done as well.

I have also read about the Supervised teaching practice 45 days for AITSL. I have seen her University curriculum offering 45 days of Supervised teaching practice and she has got a letter from her University letter head as well. Is that sufficient along with AECQA assesment for the AITSL assessment?


She has a personal situation moving with two small kids to move to Australia. I am located in Sydney and helping her out in the process.

I have read forum and it is pretty impressive. Thanks for quick response as well.

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Kiran
 

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Well you seem to have researched well and I don't think you will have any issues. She is lucky to have your support! It took me. About 2 years with gathering all my information and of course the exhausting paperwork.
She will need recommendation letters from her previous employers as proof. The letters must state the age group. Which state is she applying to?
 

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Hi Anjali,

Yes. It is pretty exhaustive to get all the information. The expat forum is really helpful to get the details. I believe VIC is the better option, as NSW has lesser state sponsorship and the quota needs to be open only next year. It will be mostly VIC.

Another thing is the IELTS band of 8 required in two areas. How hard was the IELTS? Any advise in this?

I will keep updated on the progress. Appreciate your expert advise in this regard.

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Well the minimum requirement is 7 in all areas for IELTS Academic. You need 8 if you require extra points. I struggled with it bec I was short of 5 points. So that I had get 8 in all areas. Practice is the key to IELTS. You canbe a native speaker and not ace the exams. How many points does she have now.
 

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She is 36 year old, and her points come to 60 with IELTS 7 and with state sponsorship will be 65. I am sure she is able to get 7 and she is practicing well. But, it appears to be AITSL requirement effective Jan-2013 is (as per the info in their site)

a score of at least 7.0 for Reading and Writing; and
a score of at least 8.0 for Speaking and Listening.

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Ok rules may have changed. Speaking and listening are easy but writing and reading can be hard. The exam isn't hard its giving the exam in the within the hours is tricky. . With the sponsership the invitation is automatic as long as she has 60 points. I had 55 points and with the victoria state sponsorship it become 60.
Well good luck if you need any help we are all here :)
 

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Well, unfortunately we have received a NOT SUITABLE reply from AITSL. The reason being the universities in India conduct 40 days supervised teaching which included micro-teaching,simulated lessons, computer assisted lesson plan plus other practical activities that AITSL does not consider as part of supervised teaching practice.

They require pure, unadulterated 45 days supervised teaching practice which NONE (if I am correct) of the universities in India provide. The principal's letter which we had provided along with the application did not suffice neither will the University's letter would mean much, they said. So in short, teachers in India unless they have a full 45 days supervised teaching experience without any additions will not be able to migrate - that's the message I get.

Any ideas, suggestions are welcome :) As of now my PR-for-Aus process is on hold :D
Hi Mav3rick,
Thank you very much for the detailed information. Very frankly, I am into the same category like you. My wife is an English teacher and I am into IT - Project Management. But we are in the initial phase (analysis\lots of thinking\IELTS prep). We would like to start the process with the help of a registered agent but confused. Most of the people are insisting me to apply of my own. Though I have done an extensive research, I am little afraid to go by my own.

By the way, with regard to 45 days of training my Wife has gone through 45 days of training when she was doing her B.Ed. And I hope we will get a letter from the Teacher training university. Hope it will be sufficient to get a positive report, right? Please guide me and provide me your valuable suggestions.

Thanks and regards,
pbk
 

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Well, unfortunately we have received a NOT SUITABLE reply from AITSL. The reason being the universities in India conduct 40 days supervised teaching which included micro-teaching,simulated lessons, computer assisted lesson plan plus other practical activities that AITSL does not consider as part of supervised teaching practice.

They require pure, unadulterated 45 days supervised teaching practice which NONE (if I am correct) of the universities in India provide. The principal's letter which we had provided along with the application did not suffice neither will the University's letter would mean much, they said. So in short, teachers in India unless they have a full 45 days supervised teaching experience without any additions will not be able to migrate - that's the message I get.

Any ideas, suggestions are welcome :) As of now my PR-for-Aus process is on hold :D
Hi Mav3rick,
Thank you very much for the detailed information. Very frankly, I am into the same category like you. My wife is an English teacher and I am into IT - Project Management. But we are in the initial phase (analysis\lots of thinking\IELTS prep). We would like to start the process with the help of a registered agent but confused. Most of the people are insisting me to apply of my own. Though I have done an extensive research, I am little afraid to go by my own.

By the way, with regard to 45 days of training my Wife has gone through 45 days of training when she was doing her B.Ed. And I hope we will get a letter from the Teacher training university. Hope it will be sufficient to get a positive report, right? Please guide me and provide me your valuable suggestions.

Thanks and regards,
pbk
 
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