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Global Talent - independent Program (subclass 124 & 858) -Query & eligibilty

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
#2 · (Edited by Moderator)
You have to be referred to the program - Global Talent Independent program (GTI)

"How to apply
Access to the program will be via a referral from either:

-a Global Talent Officer
-an organisation or an individual with a national reputation in the same field as the candidate

Highly skilled professionals referred to the Department may be invited to apply for a Distinguished Talent visa (subclass 124 or subclass 858).

Use our Global Talent contact form to refer a highly skilled individual at the top of their field to the Global Talent Independent program (to receive a global talent unique identifier), or to lodge a Distinguished Talent visa application through the Global Talent Independent program (you will need a global talent unique identifier)"
 
#3 ·
It seems a new visa launched yesterday for high skilled person eligible to earn likely $149,000 in 7 fields: AgTech, FinTech, MedTech, Cyber Security, Energy and Mining, Space and Advanced Manufacturing, and Quantum Information/Advanced Digital/ Data Science and ICT.

https://minister.homeaffairs.gov.au...iness.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2UZV7mB3reDj9x9HIlXiwZ9CtVopTltFCKohXcSsskSVaE-NUnvCeLflo

Anyone has more information on it. How can we apply? what is the process?

I don’t think anybody eligible for this visa will be on the forum

How to apply
Access to the program will be via a referral from either:
a Global Talent Officer
an organisation or an individual with a national reputation in the same field as the candidate
Highly skilled professionals referred to the Department may be invited to apply for a Distinguished Talent visa (subclass 124 or subclass 858).
Use our Global Talent contact form:
to refer a highly skilled individual at the top of their field to the Global Talent Independent program (to receive a global talent unique identifier), or
to lodge a Distinguished Talent visa application through the Global Talent Independent program (you will need a global talent unique identifier)

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/vis...sas/working-in-australia/visas-for-innovation/global-talent-independent-program

Cheers
 
#6 · (Edited by Moderator)
I don’t think anybody eligible for this visa will be on the forum
.....

Honestly I don't think anyone on this forum is eligible for this program. The bar is really high. Each applicant will have a specific global talent officer to assess their eligibility.

People who would be eligible for this stream either don't care about Aus PR or don't need to worry about "where to live".

Cheers,


I woudln't say say there's no one on this forum not eligible for this.

Let's not jump to conclusions without even looking at the requirements.

Earlier, I've read one thread where the OP claimed to have produced 8 patents during their PhD and an invention that resulted in a revenue of 6.04 million USD.

PhD assessment and other rants
 
#4 ·
It seems a new visa launched yesterday for high skilled person eligible to earn likely $149,000 in 7 fields: AgTech, FinTech, MedTech, Cyber Security, Energy and Mining, Space and Advanced Manufacturing, and Quantum Information/Advanced Digital/ Data Science and ICT.

https://minister.homeaffairs.gov.au...iness.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2UZV7mB3reDj9x9HIlXiwZ9CtVopTltFCKohXcSsskSVaE-NUnvCeLflo

Anyone has more information on it. How can we apply? what is the process?
Honestly I don't think anyone on this forum is eligible for this program. The bar is really high. Each applicant will have a specific global talent officer to assess their eligibility.

People who would be eligible for this stream either don't care about Aus PR or don't need to worry about "where to live".

Cheers,
 
#5 ·
This looks interesting.
"Our Global Talent Officers are located in Berlin, Dubai, Santiago, Shanghai, Singapore, and Washington DC. They work across a number of countries in their region, and attend key industry events and expos to promote the program."

But they haven't mentioned who are these officers, how to contact them or any other information.
 
#10 ·
I think someone was mentioning about cyber security few weeks back. May be a good opportunity for him/ her. However it's true that salary bar is quite high. and it is not clearly mentioned what does mean by 'Highly Skilled' and how to prove someone is highly skilled.
 
#12 ·
The members can stand at the side of the rope and cheer as the invites walk past you on the red carpet

Cheers
 
#14 ·
My husband submitted an EOI (visa 189 - occupation 242111) in SkillSelect and because of that he got an email to register an interest for the Global Talent visa program. He didn't pursue because the requirements are hard to meet.

"To be accepted into the Global Talent Independent program, individuals must:
-be internationally recognised in one of the target sectors (this may include: peer reviewed publications; patents; professional experience across different countries; presentations at international conferences; awards from international organisations etc.)
-have a nationally recognised organisation or individual in Australia in the same field as them, endorse their credentials
-be able to demonstrate a genuine ability to attract or exceed the Fair Work High Income Threshold in Australia (currently AUD $148,700)"
 
#15 ·
Point 2 and 3 are doable. Point 1 is tough and also quite grey. For example, a Director in a Big4 will meet point 2 and 3, but there is no way to get 1 sorted
 
#24 ·
Just got the Global Talent Programme Final Invitation :)
 
#28 ·
Today I have received a final invitation to the Global Talent Independent (GTI) based on the information and documents provided (especially salary threshold certificate, payslips, a national award ( Bangladesh), published article and few open-source projects )

I have been asked to apply using Global Talent unique identifier number through Distinguished Talent subclass 858 ( as I am in Australia ).

Very excited and anxious at the same time, as there is not much information/guideline available in the forums/websites/blogs. I need to solely depend on the information provided in the Home affairs site.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/vis...sas/working-in-australia/visas-for-innovation/global-talent-independent-program

Does anybody know how much time it will take to process the VISA?
 
#38 · (Edited)
I have been working for 5 years in the largest telco in Australia as a senior innovation developer. I have received awards from the organisation and my salary is above $148k. Am I eligible?

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I have been asked to provide the following things by the Global Talent Officer for assessment purpose:

1) employment certificate to prove the salary.

2) any national award ( to prove distinguished talent ) which has been published in at least one prominent newspaper

3) peer-reviewed Journal/article in nominated distinguished skillset ( for me, it was cloud computing and machine learning )

4) payslip and taxation assessment certificate

5) open-source projects on my talent

6) further news about recognition of my skills/achievement ( newspaper )

and a few other minor things.

Go ahead, there is nothing wrong in trying.
 
#39 ·
hi all,

posting my experience with GTIP so far - as I've been frantically searching online and haven't found any other useful info anywhere else:

1) Upon reading the news, I have googled "Global Talent Officer" + location, which immediately gave me a few links to the relevant LinkedIn profiles. You may get even better results doing this directly from LinkedIn search.

2) I've sent a connection request & PMed a relevant GTO, followed by a phone conversation to go over the program req'ts & expectations.
Note: I see that they have now provided a contact email on the GTIP website (globaltalent at homeaffairs) - which wasn't there before. I still think steps 1&2 are more efficient though.

3) I was asked to provide a CV to the GTO - nothing as extensive as the previous poster, but covering the same points though (e.g. instead of providing an actual certificate of employment or tax assessments, just spelling out my current salary within the CV; similarly, spelling out some international awards or conferences I've spoken at re: my specialty).

4) After about a week of waiting, I received the global talent unique identifier from the GTO - inviting me to apply formally via the GTIP website. Per GTO, this was the step where actual verifications of my claims will be made - i.e. the CV step was just an initial screen, and simply having an application id doesn't really guarantee anything.

5) I've now collected all the required docs (they're actually listed on the GTIP website under the application form 47SV), paid the fees (pretty steep overall but similar to what other subclasses cost - again, all searchable & discoverable online) and submitted the application - now the 'real' wait begins! Even with an application id, you still need to be nominated by a 'prominent' individual in your field.
 
#40 ·
a few more observations re: process & what they're ultimately looking for (in order of importance):

1) proven ability to earn above the stated threshold (ideally should already be earning at or above it - or carrying reasonable equity in your startup, validated by independent funding rounds);
2) internationally-recognised qualifications (top 50-100 global uni's?), preferably with advanced degrees (Masters, PhD), in your chosen specialty;
3) international work experience (i interpreted it being viewed as an implicit signal of 'prominence' - having been screened & vouched for by multiple labour ministries in various geographic locations)
4) provable (ideally google'able) awards, publications & public speaking engagements in your specialty within the last 2-3 years (last point is important as one needs to be 'currently' prominent); my sense was that a few would suffice - not like a minimum cutoff of 10 or smth; i also understood that 'awards' could be team-based, rather than individual - as long as one could show the extent of individual involvement in the team award.
5) community involvement linked to the chosen specialty
 
#41 ·
Hi Kundikoi,

Have you already submitted the VISA application?
Filling the same contact form, selecting option 2 with unique GT identifier number and documents need to be attached to the same form, right?
I was advised to follow Distinguished Talent Visa (858) step by step instructions.

What documents have you arranged / submitted?

If you're are Sydney, let's get in touch and we can help each other.
 
#50 ·
1. I have sent all the details to GTO some time back. When will the discussion on call happen? Is that something the gto will ask for? Who is your GTO? I mean singapore, dubai, berlin, santiago etc? Looks like different GTO,s have different process.

I agree that the process seems somewhat different among the various GTOs - as evident from our different screening processes described above. I can also imagine that some GTOs are more overwhelmed with requests & calls than others - in my case, I had to gently nudge/follow-up with the GTO myself rather than wait for them to come back to me.
I also don’t believe a follow-up discussion with GTO is actually mandatory - pretty sure that they may advance (or reject) an applicant at this initial screening stage based on the quality of written information provided alone.

2. Have you put any refree or reco from australia or else where to substantiate the claims? Form 47 has some ask , and i think one of them is recomendations. In contrast to googlable awards etc.

Not at the screening / getting the talent identifier stage. I have certainly provided 1 signed letter of recommendation from my nomination the application stage - as indeed it’s a requirement, not an option.

3. How are you proving international credentails? Is this about working for international clinets?

No, it’s about working in different geographical locations. I haven’t provided any ‘formal’ proof in my application, but my CV lists 6 different cities I have worked at, and some awards were received in a few of them, providing some indirect proof I suppose.

4. Who is nominating you? Australian citizen of national repute in the same feild, can you help us understand the extent of that repute.

My boss’s boss is the nominator. I wouldn’t overthink this point - it’s clearly not for mates nominating each other but other than that, seems pretty flexible to me. There’s also specific guidance from DFAT I’ve seen somewhere that a nomination from the ‘peak industry body’ (or its rep/execs) in your specialty would be appropriate.

5 anything else that you might think have come up from the discussions with the gto? Which might challenge the natural belief?

Please see my observations posted earlier - particularly point #1. I wouldn’t bother with the process if that one isn’t satisfied beyond any doubt.

Hope the above helps - apologies but I don’t believe a phone chat would be productive at this stage. Just follow the GTO’s instructions to a tee, while keeping in mind the various experiences & advise already posted in this thread, and you’ll be all set.
 
#51 ·
1. I have sent all the details to GTO some time back. When will the discussion on call happen? Is that something the gto will ask for? Who is your GTO? I mean singapore, dubai, berlin, santiago etc? Looks like different GTO,s have different process.



I agree that the process seems somewhat different among the various GTOs - as evident from our different screening processes described above. I can also imagine that some GTOs are more overwhelmed with requests & calls than others - in my case, I had to gently nudge/follow-up with the GTO myself rather than wait for them to come back to me.

I also donâ€[emoji769]t believe a follow-up discussion with GTO is actually mandatory - pretty sure that they may advance (or reject) an applicant at this initial screening stage based on the quality of written information provided alone.



2. Have you put any refree or reco from australia or else where to substantiate the claims? Form 47 has some ask , and i think one of them is recomendations. In contrast to googlable awards etc.



Not at the screening / getting the talent identifier stage. I have certainly provided 1 signed letter of recommendation from my nomination the application stage - as indeed itâ€[emoji769]s a requirement, not an option.



3. How are you proving international credentails? Is this about working for international clinets?



No, itâ€[emoji769]s about working in different geographical locations. I havenâ€[emoji769]t provided any ‘formalâ€[emoji769] proof in my application, but my CV lists 6 different cities I have worked at, and some awards were received in a few of them, providing some indirect proof I suppose.



4. Who is nominating you? Australian citizen of national repute in the same feild, can you help us understand the extent of that repute.



My bossâ€[emoji769]s boss is the nominator. I wouldnâ€[emoji769]t overthink this point - itâ€[emoji769]s clearly not for mates nominating each other but other than that, seems pretty flexible to me. Thereâ€[emoji769]s also specific guidance from DFAT Iâ€[emoji769]ve seen somewhere that a nomination from the ‘peak industry bodyâ€[emoji769] (or its rep/execs) in your specialty would be appropriate.



5 anything else that you might think have come up from the discussions with the gto? Which might challenge the natural belief?



Please see my observations posted earlier - particularly point #1. I wouldnâ€[emoji769]t bother with the process if that one isnâ€[emoji769]t satisfied beyond any doubt.



Hope the above helps - apologies but I donâ€[emoji769]t believe a phone chat would be productive at this stage. Just follow the GTOâ€[emoji769]s instructions to a tee, while keeping in mind the various experiences & advise already posted in this thread, and youâ€[emoji769]ll be all set.
Thanks a lot.

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#57 ·
I have submitted the visa application, completed the medical examinations and waiting for a grant now!

Steps that I followed to get here:

1) Submitted EOI through Global Talent Contact Form ( Home Affairs Portal )
2) Received contact from the Global Talent Officer about further documents and proofs about the claims.
3) Short 30 minutes interview with the GTO
4) Received invitation and Unique Global Talent Identifier number
5) Submitted the Visa application through the provided link with the Identifier number
6) Received valid visa assessment and post acknowledgement of valid visa application
7) S56 Request for Health examinations and Partners functional English proof
8) Completed health examinations and provided Partners PTE.
9) ..... waiting for a decision.
 
#55 ·
1) I am submitting Form 47SV, 47a ( children) and Form 1000 (nominator).

I believe 47a is only for kids >18yrs old, mine were listed on 47SV and that was sufficient.

2) Do I need to submit Form 80 and Form 1221 as character documents for the application as mentioned in the Visa 858 guideline?

I believe this is optional, so no ‘need’, but surely can if you have these already. I’ve submitted some older police certificates I had around but w/o these forms - my understanding is that the CO will request these separately later in the process.

3) I am submitting Nominator Form 1000 and a statement letter from the nominator. Do I need to submit an additional reference letter as well?

Same same as 2 - no real ‘need’ as far as I understand, but shouldnt hurt your case either - especially if written by ‘prominent’ individuals in your field.
 
#62 ·
By the way, these verification methods could absolutely be different based on the Global Talent Officer.
 
#66 ·
I dont think much is happening as its a holiday period in australia. Its just ending and starting to pick up. Has anyone got a unique identifier during this last 2-3 weeks. Johny which stage are you in?

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#74 ·
There is no acknowledgment. The gto will contact you. Whats your profile, can you pls share with the group. I would recommend contacting a gto separately through linked in etc... choose a lo ation closer to your original residence.

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#78 ·
What is your status @kundikoi

hey @sayan12 - got a formal request for more information last week (agree that the holidays must’ve jammed us up a bit): medicals, police certs, proof of English etc.

still collecting some docs currently and sending them thru via email as they come.
 
#79 ·
So, my take on that is, it will absolutely be much arduous compared to 482/457 but more lenient to Distinguished Talent Visa.

Process-wise, I must admit it feels rather similar to 482 but with slightly higher emphasis on salary&accomplishments vs skills&experience. Don’t really think it’s more arduous at this stage yet...
 
#80 ·
So, my take on that is, it will absolutely be much arduous compared to 482/457 but more lenient to Distinguished Talent Visa.



Process-wise, I must admit it feels rather similar to 482 but with slightly higher emphasis on salary&accomplishments vs skills&experience. Donâ€[emoji769]t really think itâ€[emoji769]s more arduous at this stage yet...
@kundikoi @perception30 i have today recieved the invite. Questions

1. Did you submit the form 1221 and 80 as described in subclass 858? The GTI check list says only PCC from australia and counties spend more than 12 months in last 10 years.? Is PCC Enough.

2. For PCC- I have an indian PCC done January 2018. And after that i am in australia. I know i have to do australian pcc, do i still need to again do indian?

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#82 ·
Indian Salary Equivalent

Hi Guys,

Could you please advise on below:
1. Is it essential to have to have offer from Australian employer which shows $148K plus salary
or
2. What Indian equivalent they are accepting ?

3. Will the contractual role acceptable in Australia ?

4. Is any weightage based on number of years of exp in Australia. Like for more than
3 yrs prior Australian exp would give any advantage ?
5. Will MBA Degree from IIM add value ? As now a days it good to have MBA for top tech leadership roles.

Regards,
Raja
 
#86 · (Edited)
Hi Guys,

Could you please advise on below:
1. Is it essential to have to have offer from Australian employer which shows $148K plus salary
or
2. What Indian equivalent they are accepting ?

3. Will the contractual role acceptable in Australia ?

4. Is any weightage based on number of years of exp in Australia. Like for more than
3 yrs prior Australian exp would give any advantage ?
5. Will MBA Degree from IIM add value ? As now a days it good to have MBA for top tech leadership roles.

Regards,
Raja
1. No, it ain't essential.
2. Based on latest Google's exchange rates, >INR7,5mln or ~1 crore :confused:
3. If it's above the threshold, I don't see why it wouldn't be acceptable. One would probably argue, however, that a distinguished individual should certainly command more than just a contract from an Ozzie employer.
4. Unclear at this stage but unlikely. Again, one would prolly argue just the opposite here - that the longer a distinguished individual has been in Oz, the easier it should be for them to demonstrate local prominence.
5. While I disagree with your statement about MBAs for top tech roles in general, I won't comment on the value-add question as it's also not that clear to me at this stage. A GTO for India would prolly value it differently than a GTO for Oz, or Latin America, for that matter.
 
#87 ·
I have received the pre grant notification today since submitted the offshore based Distinguished Talent Visa (124).

Legislation 124.411
 
#88 ·
Thank you. Does it require any nomination from Australian PR/Citizens after receiving unique number? Does anyone know which field out of 7 will be considered most? Will Program manager's (from fortune 500 out of Australia) recommendation letter works here? Do they give any weightage If the household income is around 2.5 times of threshold salary?