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Having both UK and Spanish mobile numbers (both PAYG) I am carrying around two mobile phones, one of which is starting to play up.

It would appear that a new phone with the ability to take both SIM cards would be an advantage and as one of the existing ones seems to be nearing the end of it's life the time is right to investigate this.

Does anyone have one? What model is it and what are any potential benefits, or drawbacks?
 

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I have one. It's a BQ Aquaris E5 4G, which I am very, very happy with. It comes in at about 200€ for this model with a 5 inch screen, but there are other models with smaller and also with bigger screens, all with dual sims. Have a look at prices at Media Markt.

It is no problem carrying two sim cards in one phone and I can't see any drawbacks. You can see which card you are receiving a call/SMS from, and you can choose which to use when calling or texting out.

As for the phone itself, it's very fast and runs smoothly, it has an excellent camera, a sharp screen, and outstanding battery life. It comes with virtually pure android and almost no junk pre-installed. BQ is a Spanish company so the phone isn't a Chinese import, which means that if you need customer service it's all done here in Spain. I can't speak highly enough of the phone. If you speak Spanish, have a read of the reviews at Amazon.es.
 

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Hola

There is a different solution; some contracts allow you to phone / text / use internet from any European country. Not always the cheapest solution - it is a case of "horses for courses" - depends on time in countries and phone usage

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I have used them for a while and my latest one is by far the best. ASUS ZenFone 2.
But you should be aware that they usually only allow data connection on SIM1. SIM2 is usually voice only.
 

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I had one when I lived in Prague and made frequent trips to the UK. I found it extremely convenient, no more fiddling with SIMs at airports.
Mine was a Samsung, can't remember the model as this was seven years ago.
 

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Thanks for the help so far.

So, no drawbacks. I'm not bothered about data, as I would only use WiFi. in 99% of circumstances.

The Moto G was one of the ones I had looked at, but having looked at the BQ Aquaris now, that looks like a contender.
 

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Dual SIM phones are much more common on the continent than the UK.
My only problem is that whilst my contacts list shows which SIM I should use to make a call I forget to check sometimes, and end up making an international call to somebody just down the road. I realise now this mostly happens when the last call received was from that other SIM.
Prices now even for smartphone models are extremely competitive.
Battery duration is now the most important thing for me.
 

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Yes, battery size versus consumption are a concern. That's one of the reasons the BQ is edging it over the Moto G. There is also price to consider
 

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Price does not have to be a concern if all one needs extra in an unlocked smartphone is a dual sim. Currently one can buy an Archos 35B for 59euros (cdiscount.fr) by Weds that model will be available for 39 euros (geantcasino.fr) .
I imagine Spain can match that. I've been unable to check out Mediamarkt shops etc recently due to illness.

Don't know about BQ models being made in Spain but Archos turned out to assemble Chinese produced components in France so as the French think they are being patriotic when shopping.

Is the Moto G to which you refer a) 4g b) first or second generation please? If you don't know the version of Android should tell me.
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Yes, I have read that BQ have Chinese hardware.

It's the 2nd Gen. Not fussed about 4G
 

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Hang on, you say that battery size is important, then you say that Moto G is your favourite?

Look at the specs. Moto G is famous for low battery life (its only a 2000mAh battery) not to mention that it is running Android 4.4.

Not sure about the price difference in Europe, but surely the Zenfone 2 with Android 5 and 3000mAh is a better buy??

I obviously don't care what you buy, but believe me I have spent a lot of time researching dual SIM phones before buying mine last month!
 

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Never said that ANY was my favourite.

I have just started looking into this, hence my asking for help. Any opinion or information is welcome to aid my decision.

As for the Zenfone, it's too pricey for me and the battery capacity isn't as good as some cheaper, although not Android 5 but 4.4, rivals
 

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The Moto G now comes with Android 5 and an improved battery 2390 mah. This is the reason I asked about which generation was being spoken about. In the UK and France the 1st generation is still on sale at about £100, whilst the 2nd gen is £150.
 

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I have a Nokia C2 dual phone (fairly basic, but ok as a phone) and the setting can be set to which SIM to use for calls or to ask every time, when I was using it I would just have the default set to SIM1 for making calls, although no longer used as the screen was practically none existent, but was my starting point.

My new (second-hand) phone which I am waiting for a delivery of is the Nokia Lumia 630 Dual SIM phone, and apart from only having just the one camera seems to be a ok phone and hopefully will also be slightly faster/better than my standard Nokia Lumia 520, I like Nokia because even with PAYG the maps once downloaded do not require any data connection to run when being used as a Satnav.

A friend of mine leaves his SIM2 turned off because he says it help the battery to last longer, but I have since learnt he is constantly on Facebook which might explain his battery problem.
 

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The Moto G now comes with Android 5 and an improved battery 2390 mah. This is the reason I asked about which generation was being spoken about. In the UK and France the 1st generation is still on sale at about £100, whilst the 2nd gen is £150.
Fair enough, but 2390mAh is hardly classed as a big battery these days for a 5" screen device.

I would still say that the Zenfone 2 makes more sense than the Moto G, but I was puzzled by the OP's post saying that it was out of price range, but on checking availability I see that Asus has not actually released the phone yet in Spain (France and Italy, yes, but not Spain for some strange reason) so prices are probably for imported versions which tend to be over-priced and potentially different specs and with no warranty.
But the basic model (ZE550ML) with 2GB RAM and 16GB storeage costs about the same as the Moto G 2nd Gen in countries where they are officially sold.

Sorry for the confusion, I would not knowingly recommend buying a phone that is not officially available in Spain.
 

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Phil H, re using maps offline, is that not the case for all phones? Do some require a connection to be able to use them?

Overandout, 2390 is not really a big capacity about average I would have thought. Regarding availability, if it's available in Europe that's not a problem. Pound to a pinch of......that they will be the same in any European country (possibly cosmetic differences) as for price differences, this would be down to the individual sellers, not necessarily the country in which they are based, although obviously the price that they pay the manufacturer will have a bearing.

This is turning into a right snakes wedding once you start looking!
 

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Phil H, re using maps offline, is that not the case for all phones? Do some require a connection to be able to use them?
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Although recently people have been telling me differently, but they have also been on contract phones where data is also supplied so may be giving false information, but as far as I know only Nokia have maps that will work offline and do not require a data connection to work and I have used mine in various countries without any problems.

Only last year I also asked in 2 different phone shops and they also confirmed that only Nokia phones are the only phones that work without a data connection.

(My new phone arrived this morning......... wrong phone, ...... just a normal single SIM phone and not a Dual SIM as advertised, even more annoying is I have already ordered and paid for screen protectors and a GEL covers to go with this specific phone, why didn't I wait until I had received it!!!) will I never learn......
 
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