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Democrats now want more documents

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#1 ·
The approval of Kavanaugh is stalled as Democrats want more of his documents released. Of course it's fine if Hillary deleted 30,000 emails, that is allowed. The hypocrisy of this is enormous, you can't make this stuff up.
 
#4 ·
You do realize that Hillary's e-mails were investigated for over 15 months. How long has Kavanagh's nomination been "stalled". Let us know if it's still grinding on if we turn the calendar to 2020. Obama's SC nomination of Garland was held up for 10 months, essentially stolen and gifted to Trump. Hypocrisy indeed. It's being a cry-bully, and Trumpistas are already whining about two days.
 
#6 ·
You do realize that Hillary's e-mails were investigated for over 15 months..
How do you investigate deleted emails, crushed blackberries and wiped, destroyed computers? What was investigated? She destroyed subpoenaed evidence which is a crime and still no charges. News now is that China hacked her email in real time resuting in the death of 18 - 20 CIA agents.
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-cries-people-making-120948248.html

" Donald Trump Cries About People Making Up Stories, Gets Brutally Taken To Task

President Donald Trump used Twitter to complain about people making up stories on Wednesday, and other social media users could almost taste the irony.

Trump said it was “a shame that someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost.”

Your definition of a hypocrite needs clarification - a perfect example in the link above.

Your example and complaint is not hypocritical but comparing A to B which doesn't work with educated people. Probably just another Fox News dumbed down tactic for their dumbed down base.
 
#8 ·
Your example and complaint is not hypocritical but comparing A to B which doesn't work with educated people. Probably just another Fox News dumbed down tactic for their dumbed down base.
For all of that education that you keep touting you sure have trouble following the simple subject which is the massive hypocrisy of democrats wanting more documents when they turn a blind eye to Hillary's massive cover up by destroying 30,000 emails.

Your entire response, as usual was a diversion from the simple subject because you have no "educated"reply.

di·ver·sion
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an instance of turning something aside from its course.
 
#7 · (Edited)
If there ever was a distraction, it's this post election focus on the candidate who lost. If Hillary Clinton were jailed tomorrow, would it make you feel better about the way the U.S. is being led by a man who obviously has only the interests of the very rich and his own stardom at heart?

How about focusing on the present, where documents are presently being withheld lest any suspicions be cast on the SCOTUS candidate? If there's nothing in them to show the candidate may not be telling the whole truth about his positions, then why aren't these documents being released?
This raises a host of suspicions in my mind, since this appointment is going to affect the Supreme Court decisions for many years to come and is far more important than old issues at present.

My own speculation is that what he's saying to the committee has nothing to do with how he will vote when he gets the job.
 
#9 · (Edited)
I find it hard to believe that any intelligent person thinks that equating Hillary's emails has anything to do with today's hearings. These are separate issues to anyone not drinking Koolaid sourced news, exclusively. Of course, the Democrats want the documents since their attempt to derail this SCOTUS appointment is headed for failure without the necessary votes from at least a few GOP senators.

Remember how the GOP refused to even honor the choice of Obama re Garland with a hearing, or didn't that even tickle your radar? That was the ultimate insult to a sitting POTUS. They did it only because they COULD. Now the DEMS are doing what they CAN as payback. Duh.

Newsflash: Hillary Clinton did not win the election and any misdeeds of hers are irrelevant at this point, but they seem to be all you have in your ammunition store. And, at this point, it looks like a number of people should be "locked up". Dont'cha just love how Trump defends the criminals who have been convicted in a court of law of tax cheating and fraud? Tells me a lot about his REAL attitude towards white collar crime. It's okay, just in case he did it, too.

And another thing: You think Trump will EVER release his tax returns?

And just in from today's hearings re what's going to happen if the SCOTUS candidate actually gets the job and WHY the information has been withheld:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kavanaug...t-testimony-abortion-precedent-155719304.html

I rest my case: he's a liar!!
 
#12 ·
Are you saying that what AlanMexicali quoted (the substance of which can be found from MANY other sources than Wikipedia) is incorrect? That is the point, isn't it: getting the facts? If you have actual evidence to contradict it, let's see it.

Bias is inevitable with news sources, and can be exercised by leaving items out as well as by reporting all the matters that reinforce a point of view.
 
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#24 ·
Alan, do you think anyone even looked at that. Educated people know that Comey, Mueller, the FBI and the department of Justice are all in Hillary's pocket. Only people who buy the tripe that the mainstream media is pushing believe otherwise. It's so obvious. Step away from the brainwashing and look at something other than what they are pushing. The more they investigate Trump, the more dirt turns up on Hillary and those who were complicit.
 
#26 · (Edited)
Zorro just doesn't "get" that Hillary Clinton is not the problem in the U.S. today. The would-be dictator is. It's hopeless to try to show otherwise. It really is a case of "don't confuse me with facts; my mind is made up".

However, the benefit of Zorro posting on here is that those on the other side of his opinions have the chance to see how extreme those opinions are, and what kind of a country will exist if they prevail, politically. I doubt that the nominee for SCOTUS will be rejected and that means that one of the three branches of government will be "owned" by the conservatives for decades to come. There's no democratic process in place to remove justices.
 
#27 · (Edited)
Zorro just doesn't "get" that Hillary Clinton is not the problem in the U.S. today. The would-be dictator is. It's hopeless to try to show otherwise. It really is a case of "don't confuse me with facts; my mind is made up".

However, the benefit of Zorro posting on here is that those on the other side of his opinions have the chance to see how extreme those opinions are, and what kind of a country will exist if they prevail, politically. I doubt that the nominee for SCOTUS will be rejected and that means that one of the three branches of government will be "owned" by the conservatives for decades to come. There's no democratic process in place to remove justices.
His post almost has a funny ring to it. It stated the more they INVESTIGATE Trump the more dirt they dig up on her. Isn't he really talking about Trump and his gang and his ex gang? For sure they are being investigated and digging up more dirt on them. Nobody is investigating Hillary anymore except maybe some conspiracy theorists´ websites making up stories.
 
#28 ·
Yeah, I do agree with you that hypocrisy really sucks.

Speaking of which, I have two simple questions for you. For six years, Cheney, Powell, Rice and Bush used a private server run by the Republican National Committee for government business. They then “lost” 22 million government emails--they've all admitted to this. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was drumming up support for the war in Iraq (with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction), and later when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons. Of these, most of Cheney's emails were never found. However, nobody was ever investigated for wrongdoing, let alone charged. (Cheney famously said that allowing an investigation would "empower the enemy.") My questions: Why were they never investigated, and why do Repubs never suggest that they should be investigated now?

Take your time thinking of a good answer.

You can read up on this here:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department

And here:

https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html

Etc., etc., etc.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-websites-in-1-chart/?utm_term=.f46e1105c747



" The extensive study, from Harvard University's Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society, tracked down the most linked-to news sources on Twitter for supporters of both Trump and Hillary Clinton. The study collected 4.5 million tweets and searched for users who retweeted either Trump or Clinton. From there, it analyzed the URLs that these users shared on their feeds.

Fourth on the list of most-shared sources among Trump supporters on Twitter was Gateway Pundit, a site especially notorious for trafficking in hoaxes and falsehoods. No. 13 on the list was InfoWars, Alex Jones's conspiracy theory website, which is infamous for suggesting the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax, among many other things.


The study's authors put it this way:


While we observe highly partisan and clickbait news sites on both sides of the partisan divide, especially on Facebook, on the right these sites received amplification and legitimation through an attention backbone that tied the most extreme conspiracy sites like Truthfeed, Infowars, through the likes of Gateway Pundit and Conservative Treehouse, to bridging sites like the Daily Caller and Breitbart that legitimated and normalized the paranoid style that came to typify the right-wing ecosystem in the 2016 election. This attention backbone relied heavily on social media.

Just as notable are the conservative outlets that don't rank as highly as these dubious sources. While the Daily Caller and Breitbart ranked in the top 10 and Fox News was No. 3 (just above Gateway Pundit!), the New York Post was No. 16, the Wall Street Journal (whose editorial board leans conservative) was No. 23, and the Washington Times and the Washington Free Beacon round out the top 25 at Nos. 24 and 25, respectively. "


Problem is they really believe the Far Right Wing propaganada media. Fox News was number 3 for Trump supporters for a news source. This does not suprise me at all. They are most likely the slickest of them all and have mega dollars to spend on their channel.
 
#36 ·
It's a fact that Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch on her plane while Hillary was being investigated, then the investigation just went away, no charges were filed, if that doesn't stink like dead fish, you are all blind.

Another fact is that Kim Jong Un shot the finger at Obama and continued to launch missiles for eight years but he suddenly stopped when Trump stepped in and promptly dropped a Massive Ordinance Air Blast or MOAB, the mother of all bombs on our enemies.

After Kim Jong Un met with Trump, for the first time since 1950 North and South Korea's leaders met and shook hands, the missile testing stopped and our war dead were returned.

But when our dead veteran's remains were returned,

CNN and MSNBC almost entirely skipped covering the return of U.S. remains from North Korea on Wednesday night, with CNN giving the ceremony a measly 58 seconds.

Vice President Mike Pence received the remains of American servicemen during a ceremony in Hawaii. The remains were returned as part of President Donald Trump’s negotiation with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un in Singapore in June.

CNN only covered the ceremony for 58 seconds and MSNBC didn’t cover it at all.

Similarly, ABC’s “World News Tonight” covered it for 24 seconds, while “CBS Evening News” and “NBC Nightly News” skipped the ceremony.

In other words, if they don't want to cover a major story because it doesn't fit their narrative, they simply ignore it, don't report it because they don't want to give any credit whatsoever to Trump.

Had Obama accomplished this, the coverage would have been non stop for days, all day.

You are being programmed, anyone who does not wear the liberal blinders of the mainstream media can see that.
 
#38 · (Edited)
What was it I said in a previous post about bias in journalism being inevitable, with the source ignoring what doesn't fit their POV? Consequently, liberal sources ignored any so-called "accomplishments" of Trump's and right wing sources ignore Obama's. DUH!!!

Incidentally, does any thinking person believe that the dictator in North Korea is really discontinuing his nuclear program? The things he has done as "peaceful" gestures cost him NOTHING. Returning bodies? How sweet of him. Meeting with another diplomat? Big deal. Time will tell, especially if he reduces his military costs. Those expenses bleed the resources dry to the point that the people of his country are starving...which almost all news sources will agree that they are.

And when can we bring ourselves to acknowledge that the term "honest politician" is an oxymoron? They ALL lie. "Serving" in office is almost always profitable, and they leave office richer than they entered, with a swell pension plan. The only one who left office as poor as he started (who I can think of) was Harry Truman, and he's not my favorite person. I have nothing against these people making big bucks from writing books and getting large speaking fees, but it's a mystery how well they all seem to do otherwise...and that's on both sides of the aisle.

I'm an equal opportunity critic here: I didn't like what Hillary stood for and the direction her brand of Dems wanted to go (same old, same old) and what the Trump brand stands for is abhorrent to me. It's not a far stretch to a medieval world where there are lords who have it all; peasants who have nothing and a top dog whose word (or executive order)is law.

If I didn't have children and grandchildren, I wouldn't care so much what the top pigs in Washington are up to, but I do. Their futures look far more difficult than the one I faced long ago.

End of Sunday morning rant.
 
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