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Hello all,

Putting together my paperwork for my EEA FP application (my husband is the EEA national, and I'm from the USA). So here's my question:

I have the letter from him saying that he wants me to come live with him in the UK, a bit about his job, a bit about our relationship, etc, should I also include my own cover letter as well? I was thinking something simple like:

To Entry Clearance Officer:

Enclosed please find my application for an EEA FP. I have included the following supporting documents:

1. my application
2. my biometric data
3. 2 visa photos
4. a letter from my husband (who is exercising his treaty rights in the UK)
5. our marriage certificate
6. a few of my husband's recent paystubs
7. a letter from my husband's employer
8. council tax statements from my husband's UK apartment
9. my recent bank statements
10. my husband's recent bank statements

Thank you very much.

Kindly,
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My husband did NOT include a list of documents on his letter. Thank you in advance!
 

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Hello all,

Putting together my paperwork for my EEA FP application (my husband is the EEA national, and I'm from the USA). So here's my question:

I have the letter from him saying that he wants me to come live with him in the UK, a bit about his job, a bit about our relationship, etc, should I also include my own cover letter as well? I was thinking something simple like:

To Entry Clearance Officer:

Enclosed please find my application for an EEA FP. I have included the following supporting documents:

1. my application
2. my biometric data
3. 2 visa photos
4. a letter from my husband (who is exercising his treaty rights in the UK)
5. our marriage certificate
6. a few of my husband's recent paystubs
7. a letter from my husband's employer
8. council tax statements from my husband's UK apartment
9. my recent bank statements
10. my husband's recent bank statements

Thank you very much.

Kindly,
my name

My husband did NOT include a list of documents on his letter.
No. Your letter of introduction is to show that your relationship is durable and genuine. So give a brief description of your relationship from the start, ending with your plan for the future - to settle together in UK. No need to give a list of documents. If you like, you can do a table of contents and put in on the front of your document pack.
 

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No. Your letter of introduction is to show that your relationship is durable and genuine. So give a brief description of your relationship from the start, ending with your plan for the future - to settle together in UK. No need to give a list of documents. If you like, you can do a table of contents and put in on the front of your document pack.
Okay thank you very much.
 

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Hello all,
Putting together my paperwork for my EEA FP application (my husband is the EEA national, and I'm from the USA). So here's my question:

"I have the letter from him saying that he wants me to come live with him in the UK, a bit about his job, a bit about our relationship, etc",
This is the only necessary information.

should I also include my own cover letter as well? I was thinking something simple like:
No.

To Entry Clearance Officer:

Enclosed please find my application for an EEA FP. I have included the following supporting documents:

1. my application
2. my biometric data
3. 2 visa photos
4. a letter from my husband (who is exercising his treaty rights in the UK)
5. our marriage certificate
6. a few of my husband's recent paystubs: ONLY ONE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
7. a letter from my husband's employer
8. council tax statements from my husband's UK apartment:NOT NEEDED
9. my recent bank statements: NOT NEEDED.
10. my husband's recent bank statements:NOT NEEDED.
11. WHERE'S THE CERTIFIED COPY OF HIS PASSPORT?

Thank you very much.

Kindly,
my name

My husband did NOT include a list of documents on his letter. Thank you in advance!
I would have been nice if he had listed the supporting documents. Not strictly required, but helpful.

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This is the only necessary information.


No.


I would have been nice if he had listed the supporting documents. Not strictly required, but helpful.

Animo
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AH!! Thank you very much for noticing that about the passport!! I do have a copy certified by the consulate (there's no embassy here), but I just forgot to include it on this list. But your eye for detail is VERY appreciated and if I actually had forgotten about it you would have saved me a whole whole lot of hassle!!

I will include a table of contents and, as Joppo suggested once, put everything in clear folders, labelled in a 3 ring binder, and hopefully that will suffice.

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I'm looking back through my husband's letter an he wrote a very detailed account of our relationship already. Do I absolutely need to write one as well since I'd be writing essentially the same thing he wrote? I know that HIS letter is mandatory. Is my letter mandatory as well?
Recommended. UKBA can reject your application if they suspect a marriage of convenience (and they are allowed to do so under EU ruling), so anything you can do to show you have a genuine. durable relationship is good. Doesn't have to be long, but a brief description of your relationship from your standpoint, but without copying from him, is suitable.
Jrge will say such a letter isn't required, but I maintain that in view of tougher stance taken by UKBA, it can't harm to be thorough.
 

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Recommended. UKBA can reject your application if they suspect a marriage of convenience (and they are allowed to do so under EU ruling), so anything you can do to show you have a genuine. durable relationship is good. Doesn't have to be long, but a brief description of your relationship from your standpoint, but without copying from him, is suitable.
Jrge will say such a letter isn't required, but I maintain that in view of tougher stance taken by UKBA, it can't harm to be thorough.
G' morning!
I uphold the highest respect to your extensive wealth of knowledge, but I insist it is not required.

Under EU ruling this is a "Free, Simplify and Facilitated process", hence UKBA only requires for married couples:

*Copy of the EEA national's passport, endorsed by the EEA national's embassy in the country of application); and
* Proof of your relationship to the EEA national (for example, your birth certificate or marriage certificate); and
* A letter from the EEA national, declaring that you are travelling with them or are joining them in the UK.

There could be particular cases where a little extra might be added, yes, i.e: unmarried partners, where applicants most demonstrate the trueness of their relationship. But for straight forward applications, this is just a waste of precious time for ECO's, as they must evaluate every piece of document, necessary and unnecessary.

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G' morning!
I uphold the highest respect to your extensive wealth of knowledge, but I insist it is not required.

Under EU ruling this is a "Free, Simplify and Facilitated process", hence UKBA only requires for married couples:

*Copy of the EEA national's passport, endorsed by the EEA national's embassy in the country of application); and
* Proof of your relationship to the EEA national (for example, your birth certificate or marriage certificate); and
* A letter from the EEA national, declaring that you are travelling with them or are joining them in the UK.

There could be particular cases where a little extra might be added, yes, i.e: unmarried partners, where applicants most demonstrate the trueness of their relationship. But for straight forward applications, this is just a waste of precious time for ECO's, as they must evaluate every piece of document, necessary and unnecessary.
I know of a married applicant for EEA FP who was rejected because UKBA suspected it was a marriage of convenience (short period of acquaintance, only recently married etc). So I still advise more rather than less.

We will refuse your application if:
you are involved in a 'marriage or civil partnership of convenience'. This is a marriage or civil partnership that is for immigration purposes only, with neither person planning to live with the other in a genuine and settled relationship.


http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucitizens/eea-family-permit/documents/
 

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I know of a married applicant for EEA FP who was rejected because UKBA suspected it was a marriage of convenience (short period of acquaintance, only recently married etc). So I still advise more rather than less.

We will refuse your application if:
you are involved in a 'marriage or civil partnership of convenience'. This is a marriage or civil partnership that is for immigration purposes only, with neither person planning to live with the other in a genuine and settled relationship.


UK Border Agency | Supporting documents for an EEA family permit
Again, unnecessary.

Have a good day!
 

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Do you work for European section of UKBA in Liverpool?
You are just reading off their website, aren't you? I have real-life experience going back nearly 40 years.
Even if offered, I wouldn't accept that honorable job. I'm only an overworked Global Project Manager who likes helping people by sharing his own experience, no someone else's.

So far this year, I've helped 17 couples to apply for the EEA Family Permit and 9 for their EEA1 & EEA2. Each one of them, very successful.

Instead of going back and forth, let's agree to disagree. I'd like to keep the credibility of this Forum at its highest.

Hope you had a great Sunday!

Animo
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Even if offered, I wouldn't accept that honorable job. I'm only an overworked Global Project Manager who likes helping people by sharing his own experience, no someone else's.

So far this year, I've helped 17 couples to apply for the EEA Family Permit and 9 for their EEA1 & EEA2. Each one of them, very successful.

Instead of going back and forth, let's agree to disagree. I'd like to keep the credibility of this Forum at its highest.

Hope you had a great Sunday!
I still think you are underestimating the ability of UKBA to frustrate European applicantions. While they are broadly under a duty to work according to European regulations, individual state has a wide margin of discretion in how to apply them in specific cases. In fact UK is one of the better boys, and countries like France take quite a liberty in interpreting EU council directives, seemingly with impugnity.

I will continue to intervene when misleading or simplistic advice is given.

Yes thanks, had a lovely Sunday.
 

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Does anyone who had success with their EEA FP application want to share their format for the cover letter? I'm in the process of writing mine and I don't know how concise or descriptive to be. I don't want the letter to be super emotional because I have a feeling the Entry Officers won't care for this. Thoughts?
 

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Does anyone who had success with their EEA FP application want to share their format for the cover letter? I'm in the process of writing mine and I don't know how concise or descriptive to be. I don't want the letter to be super emotional because I have a feeling the Entry Officers won't care for this. Thoughts?
ECO's follow guidelines, not our feelings.

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Again, unnecessary.

Have a good day!
When it comes to applying for spousal visa application nothing is 'unnecessary' that can contribute as an evidence of a genuine relationship. Both my wife and I had a cover-letter and the Entrance Clearance officer in NY kept both the original signed letters where we stated information about our relationship. In my opinion, this really is important and it does not require much effort from our part.

It is not uncommon to hear nowadays about UKBA rejecting applications where they are not convinced of a relationship being genuine. At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the applicant and sponsor to convince the immigration officer, apart from fulfilling other requirements of financial and accommodation.

From my own experience, I would go with Joppa's suggestion, which is prudent and reliable. I rather do more than just enough for something so important.
 

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Hello Jrge,
do you mind to share also with me a cover letter template?
I looked for it over google without finding one.
Thank you in advance for you help

Sandro

Hello Jrge,

Would you kindly send me the cover letter template as well?
I would appreciate your time and the letter as I am also applying for an EEA family permit and would like a successful outcome.

Thank you,
Sorry for the delay fellas. Let me read your previous posts, and I will send it to you both via PM.

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When it comes to applying for spousal visa application nothing is 'unnecessary' that can contribute as an evidence of a genuine relationship. Both my wife and I had a cover-letter and the Entrance Clearance officer in NY kept both the original signed letters where we stated information about our relationship. In my opinion, this really is important and it does not require much effort from our part.

It is not uncommon to hear nowadays about UKBA rejecting applications where they are not convinced of a relationship being genuine. At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the applicant and sponsor to convince the immigration officer, apart from fulfilling other requirements of financial and accommodation.

From my own experience, I would go with Joppa's suggestion, which is prudent and reliable. I rather do more than just enough for something so important.
Again, I respect Joppa for the huge mountain of knowledge he is. (respectfully speaking: he remains me of Google sometimes)

With that being said and for your benefit, we were talking about migration of EU Nationals and their family members under European Regulations.

Your case was handled under UK Immigration Regulations. A bit different!

I dropped this issue for a reason, please look around and you will find out (HINT: Look at the language being used in some closed threads) I really hope you can follow through.

Animo
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