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Hi,

I am a 21 year old guy that has just graduated from the UK with a 1st Class Honors Degree in Civil & Structural Engineering. During my uni studies I was lucky enough to travel to Australia several times en route to visit my parents who emigrated to NZ 3 years ago and really love it here.

With the British Construction industry on its knees and in a very bad shape I decided to take the gamble and travel to OZ to seek a full time graduate post with an Australian company. The worst case being I find nothing and head back to the UK by which time hopefully things will be on the up.

I have been here for just over a month now and am still unsure as to what my chances are of finding something. I have spoken to a number of different people all of which have varying views on the economy and the construction industry. Some say work is very thin on the ground, others say it is stable and is much the way it has been for a while, whilst another view is that with several multi million dollar government stimulus schemes starting work now, combined with an apparent up turn in the world economy that prospects are now looking promising.

There is a steady stream of graduate roles being advertised and I currently have several applications in progress, but am unsure as to if I realistically have a good chance of succeeding (3 of 8 applications have already been refused) . I would need sponsorship for a 457 visa and am unsure as to how many Aussie graduates are applying for the same roles (who understandably would take preference). Last November 2008 I spoken with several companies at an immigration expo in Leeds whom were desperate for people and very keen, but with the credit crunch and what has followed that seems to have changed (although Civil Engineering still appears on the MODL and Critical Shortages List).

I would be grateful for any views/opinions that anyone has, especially from anyone with a connection to the construction industry. Am I wasting my time here, or do I have a decent chance? Should I go back to the UK and compete for the limited jobs there? (although I would have the same working rights as others, making it a level playing field) 12 months work experience in the UK would give me the 120 points I need for a Permanent Residence Visa (putting me on a level field with OZ applicants). Although getting out of a graduate employment contract after 12 months might be challenging since a company is investing time/money in me and would probably see me back in the UK for another 3-4 years.

I really like OZ, the cities are great, the people friendly and the weather generally sunny! But is it a question of trying to do something too soon. Should I reside myself to returning to the UK for 3-4 years before returning. Or is the proactive approach that I am currently taking the best. With no mortgage to sort out, no car to sell, job to quit or belongings to ship out it seemed now was a decent time.

I would love to hear any of your views, even if you have no dealings in construction. Am I crazy or do I have a real chance? Do you think prospects are better in certain parts of OZ or is it all much the same everywhere? My current approach is to be glued to the web adverts and calling companies out of the phone book, a good plan or not?

Thanks for taking the time to read this (I did not mean to write so much!). Any of your replies would be a great help to me and much appreciated. Have a good one.

Matt :)
 

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Hi Matt,

The only link I have with construction is that I know a builder - he has his own company and in SE South Australia things are pretty tough for him right now.

So 3 out of 8 applications have been rejected - you only need 1 in the other 5 to be successful :D

I was looking for part time work recently since I wanted to increase my cash flow and I got a bit down. There are loads of people going for part time work and I'm not really employee material. So I started sending off my resume to companies. Now I have a PR visa (although no-one asked me about that) and I got 2 part time jobs in a few weeks. Do they pay heaps of money? No but they will keep me going while I re-structure my business and they do bring in regular money. So there is nothing wrong with approaching companies and seeing how far you get.

You're young and have no ties. I would probably set a time limit and say that in x amount of time (or at x amount of money left :) ) you'll head back to the UK.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Regards,
Karen
 

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Kaz101 - Thanks for sharing your advise. I guess these are hard times for everyone. Over the last few days I have heard more rumours of recovery, although I guess it could take years to sort the global situation out. I have decided to stay put here in Brisbane and see if anything comes along. If not than its back on the UK I guess :( Until then I will remain upbeat :)
 

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Hi,

I am a 21 year old guy that has just graduated from the UK with a 1st Class Honors Degree in Civil & Structural Engineering. During my uni studies I was lucky enough to travel to Australia several times en route to visit my parents who emigrated to NZ 3 years ago and really love it here.

Matt :)
Being a Brit will always be against you but there is still loads of movement in the industry.... Stick it out. You will get work.
 

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Hi,

I am a 21 year old guy that has just graduated from the UK with a 1st Class Honors Degree in Civil & Structural Engineering. During my uni studies I was lucky enough to travel to Australia several times en route to visit my parents who emigrated to NZ 3 years ago and really love it here.


Matt :)
I guess it will also go along the lines of which type of work you are looking for (i.e. design consultancy or contractor). I'm a building services design engineer and work for a design consultancy in the UK; however, when I emigrate to Australia I intend on pursuing a job with a contractor - the reason for this is the same as in the UK (so why am I in design? Hmmm! :confused:) such that salaries are greater in contractor firms. I was offered a job in Melbourne earlier this year, which ultimately fell through due to the recession, and the salary on offer was a lot more than I am on in the UK and was a lot more than any consultanct role on offer (I had a couple but nothing that made me sit up and take notice).

In the UK consultant firms have been hit hard with the downturn and contractor firms seem to have been ok........... until now. There is an obvious lag in work (i.e. consultants don't get approached to design new projects, but the contractors have enough work onsite; however, when the onsite jobs come to an end there are a limited number of new projects to take to construction). In essence this has created a more fierce marketplace in the UK and I imagine Oz with companies cutting costs to become more competative in the marketplace - trust me, I've just taken a 13.2% pay cut to keep my job :mad:

Good luck and hopefully I haven't just waffled too much.
 
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