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Due to a stroke in dec 2010 i am having to leave the constuction industry and am going to concentrate on breeding locusts (hoppers) for reptile food as i have been doing it for just under a year as a hobby/small online selling via ebay and web site with the intent of breeding them in spain when i can move there in the next 12-18 months hopefully i sell alot to spanish custmers so i know there is a trade there for them but i am looking at expanding my items as live feed reptile food to beetles,praying mantis, mole or armoured crickets and in fact i would look at breeding any unusual inverts the idea is to breed in the uk so i can get a good breeding program going so i know once in spain exactly how to get my setup going with no probles what i am trying to find out is can any one tell me where i could buy and beetle larva etc from in spain that will ship to me in the uk

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Spain does have alot of invert type insects living naturally here, so I cant imagine that there are many places that sell the larvae??? Its probably simpler to dig it up and gradually build up a collection yourself?????

Maybe try googling what you're looking for?? Or get in touch with any zoos or specialists in Spain

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Spain does have alot of invert type insects living naturally here, so I cant imagine that there are many places that sell the larvae??? Its probably simpler to dig it up and gradually build up a collection yourself?????

Maybe try googling what you're looking for?? Or get in touch with any zoos or specialists in Spain

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Thanks for that i will try that and see do yuo kow of any specialists that might be worth trying i can google zoos also would you know whoi contact to see if i could set up this type of business in spain????
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I may be wrong but I have a feeling the Spanish don´t keep reptiles as pets to the extent that the British do, so you might not have much demand. The whole concept of having pets at all is quite a recent thing - animals traditionally have to earn their keep.

The kids catch frogs in the wells behind our house. I don´t know what they do with them ... I´d rather not know, actually.
 

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I may be wrong but I have a feeling the Spanish don´t keep reptiles as pets to the extent that the British do, so you might not have much demand. The whole concept of having pets at all is quite a recent thing - animals traditionally have to earn their keep.

The kids catch frogs in the wells behind our house. I don´t know what they do with them ... I´d rather not know, actually.
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Thank you for the information the reason i thought about setting up in spain not only for the better weather but also i sell a lot of locusts to customers in spain so thought it would be worth doing
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I may be wrong but I have a feeling the Spanish don´t keep reptiles as pets to the extent that the British do, so you might not have much demand. The whole concept of having pets at all is quite a recent thing - animals traditionally have to earn their keep.

The kids catch frogs in the wells behind our house. I don´t know what they do with them ... I´d rather not know, actually.
you don't want to know what they do with geckos, either:eek:
 

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Thank you for the information the reason i thought about setting up in spain not only for the better weather but also i sell a lot of locusts to customers in spain so thought it would be worth doing
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Well, that´s encouraging!

As for companies who export beetle larva from Spain, I think you are just going to have to translate what you want into Spanish, and use Google. We have a wide range of knowledge and experience on this forum and can answer most enquiries, but I suspect this one will beat us. (Though you never know!)

Presumably you speak Spanish? It would be folly to even think about starting a business here otherwise!
 

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Well, that´s encouraging!

As for companies who export beetle larva from Spain, I think you are just going to have to translate what you want into Spanish, and use Google. We have a wide range of knowledge and experience on this forum and can answer most enquiries, but I suspect this one will beat us. (Though you never know!)

Presumably you speak Spanish? It would be folly to even think about starting a business here otherwise!
i am just starting to learn spanish now i have been to spain 5 times in the last few years and have picked up the basics but am now starting to learn it more which is why i am looking at 12-18 mnths before making the move
 

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Steer clear of the Rhino and Stag Beetles, they are protected over here and you will get into real trouble if they find you have them in your collection.

I presume you know which of the insects over here are dangerous, ie centipedes, black widow spiders and brown recluse spiders. The big grass hoppers are a real problem for farmers around here as are Locusts, but the Praying Mantis seem to have died out recently, don't know why.

With regard setting up a business, you may wish to check to see if you need a licence to breed the insects, as if they were to get out etc you could end up in the poop so to speak, I knew a woman who had a pet monkey, (I know, nothing like an insect but) she had to get a licence from the local government office and veterinary inspectorate to say she was going to keep it properly and that it wouldnt be a nuisances etc because of the unpleasantness of it getting out. Insects may or may not be the same.
 

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Steer clear of the Rhino and Stag Beetles, they are protected over here and you will get into real trouble if they find you have them in your collection.

I presume you know which of the insects over here are dangerous, ie centipedes, black widow spiders and brown recluse spiders. The big grass hoppers are a real problem for farmers around here as are Locusts, but the Praying Mantis seem to have died out recently, don't know why.

With regard setting up a business, you may wish to check to see if you need a licence to breed the insects, as if they were to get out etc you could end up in the poop so to speak, I knew a woman who had a pet monkey, (I know, nothing like an insect but) she had to get a licence from the local government office and veterinary inspectorate to say she was going to keep it properly and that it wouldnt be a nuisances etc because of the unpleasantness of it getting out. Insects may or may not be the same.
Plenty of praying mantises (manti??) down here in the south. And stick insects.

Aren't locusts just grasshoppers in their swarming stage?
 

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Alcalaina, nope, I believe they are totally different species, albeit similar to look at. The grasshoppers hereabouts dig into the ground and eat the roots of the plants, so they are killed pdq if they are seen. The locusts are a pest and a half, swarming in their thousands at times, though luckily the sprayer comes round at the appropriate times and zaps the little blighters so we dont get them in so great a number.

When I first moved here the Manti as you call them were around, not in huge quantities but you got to see them every now and then, but for the past 4 years I haven't seen a 1.

Then again, the beep beep frogs as we call them have disappeared along with the fire flies and the yellow butterflies, now we are inundated with white ones. Though we do have the occasional processionary catapilar nest swaying in the breeze.

Toads are also a problem around here and are killed if seen as they dig under the trees and kill them. They are a sight to seen though growing as big as dinner plates, but then again the worms grow to around a metre in length so the birds need watch out. Unless of course they are either Eagles or Kites, we had 50 flying above our house the other day, all pairing off I think. A bird watchers paradise.
 

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??? Locust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"There is no taxonomic difference between locust and grasshopper species, and in English the term "locust" is used for grasshopper species that change morphologically and behaviourally on crowding, to form swarms or hopper bands (of immature stages)."

Metre-length worms??? :eek: You are right, we live on different planets.

We have kites, eagles and vulture by the score, as we are on the migration route near the Strait of Gibraltar. I never tire of watching them circling over the mountains from my roof terrace.

We also get big red and black beetle thingies that exude some sort of nasty tasting oil. I can't remember what they are called but the farmers rub the oil on the cows' teats when they want to wean the calves.
 

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Steer clear of the Rhino and Stag Beetles, they are protected over here and you will get into real trouble if they find you have them in your collection.

I presume you know which of the insects over here are dangerous, ie centipedes, black widow spiders and brown recluse spiders. The big grass hoppers are a real problem for farmers around here as are Locusts, but the Praying Mantis seem to have died out recently, don't know why.

With regard setting up a business, you may wish to check to see if you need a licence to breed the insects, as if they were to get out etc you could end up in the poop so to speak, I knew a woman who had a pet monkey, (I know, nothing like an insect but) she had to get a licence from the local government office and veterinary inspectorate to say she was going to keep it properly and that it wouldnt be a nuisances etc because of the unpleasantness of it getting out. Insects may or may not be the same.
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Thank you for your reply
I have emailed the spanish embassy and customs to see if i require a licence and am just waiting for a reply to see if i am allowed to breed the insects in spain that i breed in the uk
 

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Alcalaina, nope, I believe they are totally different species, albeit similar to look at. The grasshoppers hereabouts dig into the ground and eat the roots of the plants, so they are killed pdq if they are seen. The locusts are a pest and a half, swarming in their thousands at times, though luckily the sprayer comes round at the appropriate times and zaps the little blighters so we dont get them in so great a number.

When I first moved here the Manti as you call them were around, not in huge quantities but you got to see them every now and then, but for the past 4 years I haven't seen a 1.

Then again, the beep beep frogs as we call them have disappeared along with the fire flies and the yellow butterflies, now we are inundated with white ones. Though we do have the occasional processionary catapilar nest swaying in the breeze.

Toads are also a problem around here and are killed if seen as they dig under the trees and kill them. They are a sight to seen though growing as big as dinner plates, but then again the worms grow to around a metre in length so the birds need watch out. Unless of course they are either Eagles or Kites, we had 50 flying above our house the other day, all pairing off I think. A bird watchers paradise.

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If you ever get photo of the grasshoppers please upoad so i can view (maybe i might ask if you can catch a few and send to me a i am breeding different species of locust ad grasshoppers obviously i will pay shipping etc )
 

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Hi
Thank you for your reply
I have emailed the spanish embassy and customs to see if i require a licence and am just waiting for a reply to see if i am allowed to breed the insects in spain that i breed in the uk
i would also suggest contacting the zoo's in spain, they should be able to give you the in's and out's better than the red tape people!!
 

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I have seen mantis egg casings here (southern Spain). ALso there is a pet shop in El Ingenio, Torre del Mar which sells exotic pets such as small reptiles and spiders and I am sure I saw small bugs sold as food as well as larvae. As for licences it is almost certain you would need one so be careful of what you get back from officialdom especially as each district can have its own laws and regulations. Best to wait until you decide on an area then approach the town hall and anyone else you can think of. Good Lucka dn keep us posted on your progress.
 
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