[happybuddha]

Ok, so off to Canada for Isildurr and happybuddah, off to the US asap for kettlerope, I will stay here in my house by the beach and enjoy looking at the boats on the bay. All of us will live happily ever after.

No, no. I have invested way too much time for my citizenship here. An adopted citizenship was my main criteria for moving away from home land. Canada may happen after I get my citizenship, inshallah. Then again, I think two adopted citizenships wouldn't be too bad either. Let's see how goes it.

 

[ozbound12]

Blimey ! It is indeed four years. For a change, you are correct this time.

Is that really necessary?

 

[phlojo]

But I would like to ask it from the aspects of TAXES and BENEFITS (child care , medical .... etc ) which country is better ?? especially for engineers

Neither country offers child care for engineers (unless the engineer is indeed a child.)

Jokes aside, taxes should be easy enough to compare if you just do a lookup online. (I'm really surprised to see taxes as a criterion for choosing a country; I'd think quality of life would not depend so much on taxes and that a few percentage points are likely to sway a decision. That's just me though.) The same can be said about medical systems - there is plenty of info online; they are likely comparable in terms of quality and availability of care.

Benefits are hard to compare, but you can probably start with things that are important to you and then look up how these countries fare.

How do you compare two different school systems? How do you measure which one is better? There are plenty of other things that affect the quality of life )including climate, proximity to vacation destinations, culture, atmosphere) that you are interested in and so on. All of these are subjective of course - what is important to you may not be as important to me.

Do let us know what you decide and why.

 

[vivek23]

australia scores big when it come to climate. nothing can beat a warm sunny day!

 

[sushan]

australia scores big when it come to climate. nothing can beat a warm sunny day!

I second that vivek. I know friends from Canada who had bad experiences with Winter & blizzards. You can't see the sun for almost 6 months in a year. While Aus scores big as one can enjoy the sunny climate & sandy beaches.

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[commie_rick]

btw default, goods in usa are cheaper as compared to goods sold at where I come from. everything here is 3-4 times more even though good service tax is 7%.

Australia has higher tax than Singapore, but generally it is less crowded, thus less stress and overwhelming feeling.

 

[Huss81]

Long service leave provisions in Australia - wins it for me

 

[gmukesh]

Does Canada offer any advantage being in proximity of USA. Are there more jobs compared to AUS. Besides weather, are there any disadvantage to Canada v/s AUS.

I am in dilemma and pursuing both PR. Not able to decide which would be better - My main drivers are:

1. Stable well paying jobs for both me and spouse (need atleast job for one of us badly)
2. Good healthcare and education without a big drain on my personal finance
3. High class lifestyle with open culture and largely free from major man made (terrorism) or Natural (hurricanes, volcano and earthquakes)
4. Quality university education at par with world standards.

 

[ozbound12]

Does Canada offer any advantage being in proximity of USA. Are there more jobs compared to AUS. Besides weather, are there any disadvantage to Canada v/s AUS.

I am in dilemma and pursuing both PR. Not able to decide which would be better - My main drivers are:

1. Stable well paying jobs for both me and spouse (need atleast job for one of us badly)
2. Good healthcare and education without a big drain on my personal finance
3. High class lifestyle with open culture and largely free from major man made (terrorism) or Natural (hurricanes, volcano and earthquakes)
4. Quality university education at par with world standards.

Nowhere is free of terrorism these days.

 

[gmukesh]

Nowhere is free of terrorism these days.

I believe the threat perception due to terrorism and natural calamities in Australia is low comparatively to Canada and possibly all over the world.

Am I wrong?

 

[ozbound12]

I believe the threat perception due to terrorism and natural calamities in Australia is low comparatively to Canada and possibly all over the world.

Am I wrong?

Perception is one thing. Just because Australia has not yet encountered a major terrorist threat does not make it immune to terrorist threats. That's not to say that it will ever happen (or won't happen) but to make a decision on where to move based on this one thing is a bit absurd. If you are concerned about terrorism, maybe consider living in a place where no one else lives - Antarctica maybe?

 

[gmukesh]

Perception is one thing. Just because Australia has not yet encountered a major terrorist threat does not make it immune to terrorist threats. That's not to say that it will ever happen (or won't happen) but to make a decision on where to move based on this one thing is a bit absurd. If you are concerned about terrorism, maybe consider living in a place where no one else lives - Antarctica maybe?

Thanks Buddy. I guess probability and trend analysis are great concepts that help people take right decisions. May be if I design a point based tool to calculate the best place to migrate then I guess AUS will be in top 3 list for everyone willing to migrate from wherever they are today.

 

[gmukesh]

I think it would be a great idea if we build a simple Points based calculator to figure out top destinations for your immigration.
I guess most of the people can agree on a max of 10 parameters and for each country you may allocate 1-10 points for each parameter and see which country scores highest from their own points allocation

Additionally, people can see how masses in general are allocating points to each country and can see the general mood of the crowd.

I think this would be great addition to immitracker site

 

[WestCoastCanadianGirl]

I second that vivek. I know friends from Canada who had bad experiences with Winter & blizzards. You can't see the sun for almost 6 months in a year. While Aus scores big as one can enjoy the sunny climate & sandy beaches.

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The south-west coast of British Columbia (Vancouver Island and Vancouver) is fairly temperate during the winter... having spent the last 4 winters in London, England and 30+ winters in Vancouver, I can tell you that winters in London are generally colder than winters in Vancouver.

Whilst it does snow a little during the winter, the temperatures don't generally get any colder than -10°C, and even at that, it's for a very short period of time in the winter and not for months on end (the coldest I remember when I was growing up was -20°C during a cold snap that we had one year when I was fifteen) - my husband and I were visiting my brother and his family in Toronto at Christmas 2014/New Year 2015, and the day that we left to go back to the UK (06 January), the air temperature was -13°C and when the wind chill was added, that value dropped to -22°C - far too cold for my liking and I don't know how my brother (who was born and raised in Vancouver) can handle such cold temperatures!

If there's any downside to winter in Vancouver, it's the rain.

When I was growing up in Vancouver, my brothers and I had to argue with each other over whose turn it was to mow the lawn in the back garden of our house during the Christmas break from school If it hadn't snowed or rained and the lawn was getting long, one of us had to mow it.

By mid-to-late February, the daffodils begin to emerge from the ground in many parts of Vancouver while the rest of the country is covered in cold and snow and by April, the blossoms on the Japanese cherry trees in the city are in full bloom (allergy sufferers beware)... when I was at uni back in the 90's, many students wore shorts and a jumper to school on sunny days in April.

 

[shrusha]

This is an interesting topic.. Many have asked me why didnt I apply for Canada (the usual quote was "You can enter US".. But I somehow always felt OZ is good.. not because I studied there.. But moving to Canada failed to evoke excitement in me.. nevertheless it bothered me why people were asking me about Canada.. While Canada may have its positives, I feel that OZ is better than Canada in some aspects.. after going through this thread I am happy about my choice.. Keep the viewpoints coming in.. thanks for starting this thread..

 

[anz13]

Quality of life depends on the city as well e.g. living in Sydney is too expensive

 

[vinteen007]

Now a days it too difficult to get Canadian PR due to their express entry system...

 

[Enga]

Quality of life depends on the city as well e.g. living in Sydney is too expensive

The city does play a factor. Sydney is more expensive, more traffic & more pollution..

But there are more job opportunities & there is so much to do all the time....

Some would never consider living here & some would never consider anywhere else.

And of course there are many other wonderful places to live in Australia & worldwide.

So it's's really a personal choice.

 

[JK684]

Quality of life depends on the city as well e.g. living in Sydney is too expensive

Living in Toronto is also expensive mate , After having lived in both Canada and US, I see Australia is lot more different.

 

[ankitgoel10]

Adding my opinion to this discussion, when I booked my IELTS Exam, I was in a dilemma between Canada & Australia, and so my Agent had advised me to take IELTS (not PTE).

Having lived in USA and traveled through Australia, I observed quite clearly that Australia won hands down over USA but I did not know anything about Canada. For a week, I studied the climate of Canada when I found that it was much colder for most part of the year than New Jersey where I had lived in USA and the entire country was colder than New Jersey. So I decided I did not want to keep telling my kids to stay at home due to weather. I wanted to encourage them to play in the park and swim at the public pool every-day and that too all through the year.

Also, I watched the stark difference in their refugee policies when Australia advertised their No-Way-Boat-People policy and Canada advertised their Red-Carpet-for-Syrians policy. After observing the harmful effects of opening the doors (without conditions) for Syrians and other Middle-East war refugees in countries like Germany, Spain, Hungary, Poland, etc; I decided I wanted to live in a country which was difficult for un-invited refugees to get into - i.e. Australia.

From then on, it was just a matter of "The mind sees what it wants to see".

I had this strange thought at the back of my mind that "if, for any reason, I am unable to be as successful as I am in India - my main confidantes will be my wife and my children. There will be much lower probability of my family or friends or relatives visiting me because its quite far and expensive. The number of relatives-friends already living in Australia are also far less than in US & Canada."

After all, the primary purpose of my migration is 1) To provide a better quality-of-life along with unpolluted air-water-food-milk-park-etc to my children and 2) To get away from the extremely competitive North-Indian culture and environment and just try to lead the life at my own pace with my kids.