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Advice on moving to Tordera, Barcelona!

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Hello,

We are a couple (Claire 30 from UK, Danny 36 from Ireland) moving to Tordera. I have a job based in Tordera that I start in June and Danny will look for work once we start iving there.

We want to live in and around the area of Tordera so are also considering Palafolls and Santa Susanna.

We are looking primarily for advise on where to find long term lets with a private landlord that have a minimum of 3 bedrooms,2 bathroom, terrace and ideally a swimming pool.

Can anybody tell us where to look for private lets as we would like to remove the agency fee from our relocation process. Alternatively if anybody can recommend a trustworthy letting agency that would also be good.

We have to this point been looking on fotocasa, idealista, segundamanos and alquiler.

We have a hundred different questions we would like to ask but finding somewhere to live is the most important.

We only found out 3 days ago that we are moving and only have 5 weeks to achieve this.

So it's all a tad hectic at the moment.

All advice will be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance

Claire and Danny
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Hi everyone, myself and my partner might be moving to Tordera. I've just been reading through your posts, which have been the most useful resources so far in my research of the area! So thanks for that!

Was just wondering how you have all been getting on so far out there (the people that have already moved out there I mean) - and also, if you could give me a little idea on living costs, things to do, etc.

We're a couple in our mid-to-late-20's, but we're not looking for a place filled with bars/clubs/pubs. Also, Im trying to figure out what a decent wage is!

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance. Jenk
Hi Everyone!

Good points. Barcelona is an expensive area, you will also need to have contracted employment/proof of income and healthcare before you can become a resident

Jo xxx

Hello everyone! Thanks for all of your replies! My partner has an interview for a position out there with a starting salary of €31,000. I've done a few spanish tax calculators online that seem to suggest that after tax deductions we will be left with around €2000 per month (we have no kids or other dependants).

Neither of us speak Spanish and my partner's potential job is OK with that as long as begin learning when we arrive. I'm a personal trainer, so I will definitely need to learn the lingo. I may look into a Teaching English as a Foreign Language course.

In terms of living costs - we would definitely rather pay out more than be in a cramped environment. Houses seem quite difficult to find (in our budget) so we're hoping spanish apartment are well soundproofed! I know I sound like a miserable old man but we've just had bad experiences in apartment blocks.

Can you guys think of anything I should really be aware of when trying to plan the big move?

Many thanks!
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Hi!

I wasn't sure if everyone would receive a notification to my last post as I replied to one person's reply, so here it is in the main thread (I hope).

Hello everyone! Thanks for all of your replies! My partner has an interview for a position out there with a starting salary of €31,000. I've done a few spanish tax calculators online that seem to suggest that after tax deductions we will be left with around €2000 per month (we have no kids or other dependants).

Neither of us speak Spanish and my partner's potential job is OK with that as long as begin learning when we arrive. I'm a personal trainer, so I will definitely need to learn the lingo. I may look into a Teaching English as a Foreign Language course.

In terms of living costs - we would definitely rather pay out more than be in a cramped environment. Houses seem quite difficult to find (in our budget) so we're hoping spanish apartment are well soundproofed! I know I sound like a miserable old man but we've just had bad experiences in apartment blocks.

Can you guys think of anything I should really be aware of when trying to plan the big move?

Many thanks!
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Hey

Howdy,

Tordera is a very small and quite remote town. Not a lot going on AT ALL. Do you HAVE to move there or are surrounding areas an option ?

Cost of living varies depending on your lifestyle. Obvious I know. So to give you an idea.....

2 bed flat is €400-€550. 3 bed house €750-€1,000.

Monthly costs like electricity, gas, water, waste disposal and so on is about €100-€150.

Internet €30-€40 per month.

Bottle of beer is €1.50 and a pack of cigs is €4.

Annual car insurance is about €300-€350. Taxis are crazy expensive.

There is nothing to do in Tordera. That's only my opinion of course. It's a one horse town and they forgot to put the horse there too.

A decent wage would be about €1,600-€2,400 NET.

If you asked me for one piece of advice only ?????? Learn Spanish ASAP. If you know you are definitely coming then I'd suggest starting lessons straight away. You are lost (F^*ked) here without it. It'll be very very hard for you to get by without even the basics. I find the locals fairly xenophobic but it would be unfair to tar all with the same brush. Having the ability to interact will help with this. I think.

I found Rosetta Stone quite good (everybody will advise you on their own preferred method for learning) but make sure you don't buy the South American by mistake. They frequently do a deal online for all 5 levels for about £285 I think. It's well worth it. It will whet your appetite and it's not that expensive in comparison to private lessons especially as the 2 of you can do it.

I'm happy to answer any specific questions you may have. We moved here earlier this year (myself and my girlfriend) and lived in Palafolls but have moved to Blanes as it was too small in Palafolls and we felt Tordera was too small too. It's only a 10-15 minute drive from Blanes to Tordera.
Hi Danny&Claire,

Thanks for your reply and all the info!

We dont HAVE to live in Tordera, but we definitely don't want to be around the whole club/pub thing. We just want a house/villa thats in a safe, decent location. As I mentioned, my partner will be starting on €31k (before taxes) which I think works out at around €2000 per month (which is right in the middle of what you said is a good salary) so we should be ok. Apparently we won't know if she's got the job until after xmas, so we're both going to get back into our Spanish-learning during the holidays. We have the entire Rosetta Stone packs already! It's been tricky because Lisa has been interviewed for jobs in Spain, Italy, Netherlands, and America, so we've never known which language to start on. She has a very strong chance of getting the Tordera one though, and I think she'll actually be offered it. In terms of learning the language though, how long do you think it takes to pick it up at a respectable level? You said they may be quite Xenophobic (which slightly worries me) so I'm sure it would be hard to interact (and improve our Spanish) if no-one wants to talk to us haha. How has your Spanish progressed since you've been there? And, if you don't mind me asking, what do you and your partner do for work out there? I'm looking into teaching English. Seems to be a lot of international language school so it could be a good whilst we're learning the lingo and looking for a more suitable job. I suppose the biggest question I have really is, do you actually LIKE living there? There's absolutely no way we will want to return to the UK. We moved to Australia a few years ago but had to come back because of Visa issues, and it was horrible!

Thanks again for your reply, really appreciate it.

Jenk
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hi!

Hi Jenk,

To answer your question directly - Claire is a designer and I'm on a sabbatical. A nicer way of saying I'm unemployed. But I do love me free time and the weather is pretty awesome.

There is really only one employer of note in Tordera so I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same company that Claire works for. If that is the case then they provide very good Spanish lessons on site about 2-3 days a week at about 2 hours per lesson. So your girlfriends Spanish would improve at a greater rate than your own. I'm only guessing because of my situation !

So depending on your current level I'd imagine 6 months will see a vast improvement for Lisa and as for yourself it really depends on the hours you put in. As much as I say I feel it's a tad xenophobic around here I have to point out there are a lot of nice people too. My Spanish is very poor (sh*te) and it is holding me back from interacting as much as I would like to. I wouldn't worry too much about the local attitude as for every Douche (douche may be a tad harsh as i think it's just a cultural thing) you meet you'll meet a sound head too. Also a lot of the locals crave learning English so if your Spanish is good enough, to initiate chat, then you'll have plenty of suitors for conversation and especially from the younger people. I'm 35 so anything between 20-30 is young to me.


As much as it's not what I expected here I would say it's a no brainer to live here rather than the UK. I lived in Manchester for 10 years and I don't miss it one bit. Except for a few restaurants actually. I also lived in Oz and that would probably be top of my list but it may be for the future. The fact that you would have a job offer before you come is what makes it viable. If ye have no big ties in the UK then what can you lose by trying it here for a year ?

The move would not be a doddle initially as you would have many things to sort out in a foreign tongue but it is achievable. I could give you more specific advice as and when. For example, if you push your new employers they should do some of the basics for you but they will leave you to it unless you ask. Again, I can elaborate further on this if Lisa gets offered the job.

Tordera really is a small place. If you want to avoid pubs and clubs then from what I've seen here you really want to avoid Lloret de mar and Calella. Other than that it's not really a mad part of the coast. Most tourists seem to be Dutch. Very few Poms or Irish. Blanes is a nice wee town (if you know which part to rent in) and I would recommend it.

You have talked about a small house or villa and that's EXACTLY what I wanted but I found it near impossible to find one. I'm a country boy and was looking forward to living in the sticks again but they don't seem to exist here. You'll find that developers buy land in the sticks but proceed to build an estate of varied dwellings. They are called urbanizations here. Pretty pointless in my opinion as you are pretty remote from anything but still have neighbours to the left, right, front and back.

So yes I like living here but that is in comparison to the UK or Ireland. That's not meant as a negative but a realistic yardstick.

If I can answer any more questions then feel free to ask. I suppose when Lisa finds out if she is offered the job it will be the time to compile a list of questions. For example I would recommend you to bring your car, if you have one, whereas others might advise against it. That's all for a later date though.

So try to relax and enjoy the festive and hopefully ye'll get some good news early in January.

Danny
Hi Danny,

You sound like the exact situation we would be in if Lisa was offered the job. She's a designer too, so undoubtedly it's the same company!

We definitely have no ties in the UK (not even family) so coming out there is no problem, just feel slightly apprehensive when it could all happen in the next month and I still cant even count to 10 in spanish let alone arrange a utility supplier, car insurance, broadband, etc. But as you said - I can use your pearls of wisdom if its all going ahead (which I really think it will).

It would be good to get some more info on what the job would be like for Lisa (working hours, benefits, how they treat the brits, etc) Any chance we could talk more privately (in a non-creepy way)? /SNIP/
Thanks again for all the help Danny! I owe you one!

Jenk
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Hi Danny,

Hopefully by posting this message I will be able to send you a private message with my contact info (as this will be my 5th post enabling me to do so).

Hope to speak to you soon

Jenk
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