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Adding family members as dependent to 190 Visa application � Information.

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#1 ·
Adding family members as dependent to 190 Visa application – Information.

While filing my EOI, I have mentioned as below
You have dependent family member add to your application in future – YES
Number of Family Member – 5
You will add your spouse in future application – YES

Is it possible to include my brother and sister with my application as dependent??

Little info about them

Both are Single – Not married.
Age – Less than 23.
Education – Bachelor of Engineering in Computer Science (4 year – Full time Study)
Status – Not working – Student.
 
#3 ·
Do they live in your home? No. They are living in my hometown.
Do they have any income? No. they don’t have any income.
Where are there/your parents? Our is a joined family, my parents, brother, sister are living in same home.
Do you pay for all of their expenses. Food, housing, study fees etc? – Yes. I am the only earning person in my family.

Thanks for your reply.
 
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#4 ·
Then no you can not add them as dependants. They appear to be the dependants of your parents.

All of the things I mention must be present, including not working and you must be able to prove it with lots of official documents.
 
#8 ·
Thank you.
would you also clarify following questions?
1-she is a retired teacher and earn a few salary. does it mean that she is not financially dependent on me?

2) she can not get ielts 4.5, should i have to pay 4000 dollars for her or beacuase she is over 65, it is not required?
3-After entering the Australia, as she is over 65, does she receive follwing items or after 2 years of entering to australia she can recieve them?
a) Medicare Benefit
b) Salary for aged people
 
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#9 ·
You mean she gets a pension? If so how much is it, if she was to live alone is would it be enough for her to live on, pay rent, buy food, pay bills etc? In the UK a pension would be fine to live on along with state support, how about in Iran?

Who currently pays all the bills, does she pay any?

I still think given you have always lived together and your father died many years ago unless she had substantial income you would be ok with her as dependent.

I'm unsure about the english requirements as I cant get the DIAC page to load! I dont recall their being exemptions but it might be something I have not come across.

If you both got PR she would be eligible for medicare straight away. However their are no state welfare benefits she could claim. All migrants can not claim centrelink payments for 2 years after the arrive in Australia bar limited payments for those with young children.

Pensions for the elderly however require 10 years residence to be eligible for payments so she would be 75+ before she could get it.

Even after 2 years it is unlikely she could claim anything because other payments are for job seekers which at 65+ she quite obviously is not.
 
#10 ·
when i was a child, i was dependent to my mother, however nowadays my salary is much higher and i pay most loans and bills. however, somtimes she help me.
Also as i am the only child she is also emotionally dependent on me.
You mean i cannot consider her in my application?
 
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#11 ·
It sounds like you might be able to if her income is not enough to keep her if you were not there and she had to pay for everything herself. It is in your favour she has always lived with you. Do your bills go straight from your bank? If so that is useful to show you and not her pay the bills regardless of any small amounts she might give you.
You just have to think carefully of everything you can show in evidence
 
#12 ·
Hi
should i submit an ielts certificate for my mother who is over 65 years old?
the CO have requested it, while for my mother is difficult to participate to this exam and can not get 4.5 score.
Is it any exceptions for aged parent who are over 65 years old?
 
#14 ·
as i said my mother is a retired teacher, is it possible that i do not mention that she is retired?
I worry whether i mention it officer don't accept that she is dependent on me.

Also now we live in an old apartment which is belongs to my mother, however during these months we are programed to sell it and live in an appartment which is mine. is it possible to mention this appartment address, and i say that we live in my appartment?
Do they check the living address in order to be sure that this whether we live there?

I just ask this questions to do my best in order to keep my mother in my application and prove that my mother is dependent on me.
 
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#15 ·
Just tell the truth. She is retired which means she is not working means shows she could be dependent on you.

It does not matter who the apartment belongs to. What matters is that you both live there together. They check it using a variety of methods, checking bills, where you are registered to pay tax, where your work believe you live, visits etc If you planned on moving fine, if there is space to put that information put it down if not it doesn't matter.
 
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#18 ·
Your CO will first ask for more evidence. If you can not provide it or they do not feel it is enough they will give you the opportunity to remove her from the application. If you remove her your visa will continue to be processed and if you meet the other requirements you will get your visa. If you decide to leave her on the visa will be assessed and denied as she does not meet the reqirements in the CO assessment.
 
#19 ·
I want to prepare a letter for Co and please recommend me whether this information about the financial siuation is useful.

my mother salary is 590000 (toman),
her expense for cloth, food, drugs, utilities is 500000.
The house we live in is officially belongs to her. However we have decided to sell it for providing the expense of migration. If she stay in my country, it means that she had to pay rents about 700000 toman per month. Therefore, if she stay in Iran her total expense will be
1200000 toman which is more than her salary.

If i explain above financial situation, does CO accept it?
 
#24 ·
No, but i should pay about 4000 dollares i she cannot pass the ielts. i have another problem, the CO said that if your mother cannot pass the medical exam you application for both you and your mother will be reject, my mother has diabetes type 2 and arthirits, therefore i worry that she cannot pass the test.
 
#27 ·
I dont think so, i had posted the same question in other threads and i was told that the form 1022 should be used to update the information and sent to CO. Kindly let me know your next steps as we both have a similar situation.

Thanks
 
#30 ·
Thanks a lot for your advice. I read the news and flowingly this part: Visas that have a Health Waiver Provision
based on this news, it seems that they have considered health waiver for some visaes shuch as dependent parent and 190 type is not included. you mean they don't reject for the mentioned diseases (diabetic and arthritis) even for 190 visa?

I should apologize if i asked for more clarification, maybe because the 28 days period for preparing the required document will be finshed within 10 days and i really dont now what to do.

Would you please also tell me based on following items i can prove my mother depdency?
-she has no one in my country
-she is aged parent.
- my mother salary is 590000 (toman),
her expense for cloth, food, drugs, utilities is 500000.
The house we live in is officially belongs to her. However we have decided to sell it for providing the expense of migration. If she stay in my country, it means that she had to pay rents about 700000 toman per month. Therefore, if she stay in Iran her total expense will be
1200000 toman which is more than her salary.
 
#31 ·
In the booklet of point based skills migration following condition is mentioned for depdendent family.

""You may include other relatives in your application if they are wholly or substantially reliant on you for fi nancial support for their basic needs of food, shelter and clothing and they have been reliant on you for that support for a substantial period. They must also be more reliant on you for support than on any other person or source.
A relative may also be considered dependent on you if they are reliant on you for fi nancial support because they have a mental or physical disability which stops them from earning a living to support themselves.
Other relatives dependent on you or your partner may include, for example, an aged, unmarried relative.""

Based on the bold part can the Co accept my condition even i cannot prove the wholly or substantially financial dependency?
 
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