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Why Republicans are hysterical about the Supreme Court leak
Crazy.... way too crazy and yet each individual state can choose whether to keep Abortions. This "IS" a real concern, the never-ending leaks from Government, Trump suffered greatly from them and what happens, nothing, no convictions but so much turbulence and destruction from Left and Communist leaning protestors. MSNBC Link

Dave Portnoy vows to vote Democrat if Roe v. Wade is overturned: 'This is like going back in time'

Very disappointing, it's okay with him "Woman's right to choose" if they abort a baby at 9 months (NY City). Fox News Link
 

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I thought USA is supposed to be a democracy?
Why should the wishes of 39% override those of 59%?

It's a life and since nobody gets to see the life they extinguish this baby why? so many reasons to justify killing an innocent baby and none of them work, they have no thoughts about the person inside waiting to come out, it's as if they're nobody.

You won't be able to justify taking the life of such a vulnerable baby, I can't understand how anyone could even look at themselves in the mirror let alone get sleep at night.

I did find that video by George Carlin on Republicans Lol... he was spot on because he said once you're born you are on your own lol... GOOD! and at least you were BORN right? my God, who took away your right to live, your parents allowed you and me to live, and now with these sick abortion laws they have so many choices on extinguishing life, how convenient and sick.

And like I had mentioned... there is social welfare, and free health care for the single woman with no husband and with a baby, so? in a way George Carlin was wrong, he had to struggle in order to make it in the industry, and he didn't get any free rides, he had to work but still, his jokes are good and whatever he says goes, I will never stop supporting George Carlin.

But this carelessness with vulnerable life needs to end, just because at one time we thought it was okay to extinguish somebody that hasn't been born yet was okay and then come to find out, that's not okay after all. But this was addressed thousands of years ago in the Bible, people were sacrificing their toddlers and newborn babies, actually any age, burning them alive to some sort of God-like animal creature, Marduk or Baal.

Jeremiah 7:31 NIV 31 They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind.

Next, the Jews were nearly exterminated, the chosen people but God allowed the righteous to break free of Israel 1/3 the population and the rest were murdered, killed by a ruler King Nebuchandnesszar, the Jews were exiled for 70 years they cried and prayed for nearly the full 70 years asking for forgiveness from God before the Heavenly Father relented and they were allowed to renter Israel but many of the tribes lost.

- In 586 BCE King Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon conquered Judah. According to the Hebrew Bible, he destroyed Solomon's Temple and exiled the Jews to Babylon. The defeat was also recorded by the Babylonians in the Babylonian Chronicles. The exile of Jews may have been restricted to the elite.

- With his enemies defeated, Nebuchadnezzar went about restoring the city of Babylon. He rebuilt and improved many of the temples of the gods. He also built an enormous palace that included the famous Hanging Gardens of Babylon which were considered one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. (Archelogy backs this up)
 

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I thought USA is supposed to be a democracy?
Why should the wishes of 39% override those of 59%?

The problem with your thinking is the US is a Constitutional Republic not a Democracy!
As an example in the Presidential election you can win the majority of the votes and still lose. the Electoral College vote determines the winner.

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I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!

The law shouldn't be black and white.
There are abortions that should be allowed.
 

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I'm not pro-murdering babies.
I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.
I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I'm pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!

The law shouldn't be black and white.
There are abortions that should be allowed.
Tiz so how many women actually fit into those categories and how many women do you know that were affected by that, no organs.. give me a break, that doesn't happen too often, and if it does why not help the baby out if we can. I watched a video that addressed that very subject, this woman said that she was to be aborted because she didn't have all her organs (she lived) so they performed an abortion but she survived and she had all of her organs, what the heck!

You are aware that some children survive abortion? and are now adults.

It has nothing to do with women's rights and also it has nothing to do with how she got pregnant, you are missing the point Tiz... it's about that innocent life. What WE are talking about here is not the boloney you keep regurgitating from the MSM radicals, this is about aborting a baby a healthy baby at 9 months like NY city, aborting a healthy baby that if born prematurely would still survive, so... how is that a woman's right?

Aren't you blessed to be born in America before 1973, the UK who knows when they passed their abortion rights law:

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose to have an abortion without excessive government restriction.

You do realize that the original litigant in Roe Vs Wade became a pro-life supporter?

I doubt very much that if the woman's life is in danger, the Doctor would still be able to abort the baby, gosh so why bring it up as if it's banned, that's ridiculous, where are you getting this information from? And then are you aware that many women also have lifelong regrets about aborting their baby? or babies?
 

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The decision does not ban abortions in the US. It simply leaves the decision to the States,. Seems the local government should have the idea of what their constituents want.

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I see there are some large Fortune 500 companies that will support their staff to travel interstate.
Good on them for standing up for what is right.

"Most abortions in 2019 took place early in gestation," according to the CDC. Nearly 93% of abortions were performed at less than 13 weeks' gestation.
Abortion pills, which can typically be used up to 10 weeks into a pregnancy, made up 54% of abortions in 2020.

The idea of wearing masks to protect others or get a vaccine was met with shouts of "My Body My Choice".
But when it comes to people with uteruses having autonomy over their own bodies.... pure hypocrisy.
 

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I see there are some large Fortune 500 companies that will support their staff to travel interstate.
Good on them for standing up for what is right.

"Most abortions in 2019 took place early in gestation," according to the CDC. Nearly 93% of abortions were performed at less than 13 weeks' gestation.
Abortion pills, which can typically be used up to 10 weeks into a pregnancy, made up 54% of abortions in 2020.

The idea of wearing masks to protect others or get a vaccine was met with shouts of "My Body My Choice".
But when it comes to people with uteruses having autonomy over their own bodies.... pure hypocrisy.
That analogy doesn't work when we're talking about another life that has no voice yet. Why is it Pro-Choice have no empathy for a baby, is it that they can't see it they don't know him and so it means nothing, it's a human life.

And so your statistics make more sense now, who really believes the baby was born without organs and all girls getting raped? I'm not buying that argument, most get an abortion because they don't want the added costs and responsibilities so they prefer to die alone.
 

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A baby isn't a baby until its born.

Judaism agrees with that statement. You are just pushing your flavour of religion on others that do not accept or believe it.
All I can say is that we totally disagree on that subject and man you lack some serious empathy for your fellow man.
 
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"serious empathy for your fellow man."

LOL
: American right wing... "I want zero socialist policies."
You want me to wear a mask and socially distance to help stop the spread of disease. American right wing... "But my freedom, my body, my choice"
A dozen kids get gunned down going to school, American right wing "You can't tighten gun laws"
Protecting the LGBTQ community...American right wing "Not on my watch"
Remember Trump saying back in 2016 that he'd replace Obamacare and it would be announced in 2 weeks?
Free education programs. American right wing "I'm not paying for that"

This list could go on forever..

empathy for your fellow man :LOL: It's OK, as long it doesn't affect my pocket. :D
 

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"serious empathy for your fellow man."

LOL
: American right wing... "I want zero socialist policies."
You want me to wear a mask and socially distance to help stop the spread of disease. American right wing... "But my freedom, my body, my choice"
A dozen kids get gunned down going to school, American right wing "You can't tighten gun laws"
Protecting the LGBTQ community...American right wing "Not on my watch"
Remember Trump saying back in 2016 that he'd replace Obamacare and it would be announced in 2 weeks?
Free education programs. American right wing "I'm not paying for that"

This list could go on forever..

empathy for your fellow man :LOL: It's OK, as long it doesn't affect my pocket. :D
But Tiz are you saying you have a baby inside you? And then what's stopping somebody who wants to wear the mask from just wearing the dang thing? the analogy doesn't seem to work.

Where are you getting Right Wing when it comes to self-protection and carrying a weapon? Are you aware that many Democrats are hunters and they also carry concealed? How are you supposed to protect yourself from somebody who carries illegally and when was the last time you heard of a citizen that carried legally start executing kids in the school? Many of the teens got their guns from their Dad or a friend so they weren't licensed to carry, you have the right Tiz to protect your life, what about your family.

I carried a Glock-19 legally while I was living in Fargo North Dakota and unless it was an extreme situation that gun was to remain hidden, isn't it amazing I didn't go on a shooting spree LOL....why may you ask... because the thought never crossed my mind. We have so many people from Somalia, and Bosnia dumped in our city by Progressives, were you aware that the Somalian community leader had to inform the Somalians in our community that raping women on the sidewalk was illegal in Fargo North Dakota USA? And then just 3 blocks from me a guy had his head smashed in with a board and then several of the elderly in the downtown area also was beaten severely and robbed by illegal aliens one lady just exiting her home.

Right, Ole Thumbs down RINO McCain made sure just before his death bed still spitting his jealousy and hate towards President Trump so he would have a tough time with Obama Care (it's not free HELLO). Here's another one for you... When it first came out that there were Vietnam vets POWs still trapped and stuck in prisons by reporters that were investigating another story, McCain tried to have them arrested and squash the story, he didn't want to hear about it anymore and wanted anything to do with Vietnam silenced so how is McCain a Republican?

So far most of the Left and violent extremists are coming from the LGBT so you seem to be out of touch with reality and then not to mention the nuts in the BLM and Antifa, so much for letting it out of the closet, I wished it would go back in because all these groups have been hijacked by nuts.

Why should I pay for educating a Leftist, make him smarter to attack hard-working Americans, they don't want to work and because who wants to hire somebody with a Liberal Arts Degree... Please! I'll be willing to pay for a degree in Engineering, M.D., and so forth but please, these people will be lifelong baristas and vape shop workers and now I need to pay for their wasteful Liberal Arts Degree?

Oh I know... the Progressives, love to push help thy fellow man (neighbor in need) just like it's written in the Bible but to take your shirt off and give it to him that's another story along with reaching into the back pocket and giving away cash, that doesn't happen but hey... but hey words make them feel good along with volunteering and so they can once again look themselves in the mirror and sleep soundly at nights.
 

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My country had the guts to do something about controlling guns, and it was a right wing Prime Minister, John Howard, that lead the way.

The US just sends prayers and condolences to the families...and then just goes back to conform to the wishes of the NRA and making up excuses why it's better to have more guns.

The Port Arthur massacre occurred on 28 April 1996 when a 25-year old man murdered 35 people and wounded more than 18 others in the town of Port Arthur in Tasmania.

At the time of the Port Arthur massacre, firearm laws were more relaxed and varied considerably between states. The perpetrator of the Port Arthur massacre owned three firearms, including one he purchased from a newspaper advertisement, despite never holding a gun licence.

Six weeks prior to the Port Arthur massacre, John Howard became Prime Minister in a landslide victory for the Coalition. A year earlier Howard had expressed his disapproval of gun culture in the United States and his desire to reduce the number of firearms in Australia. Following the Port Arthur massacre, Howard pursued ambitious policies to reform gun laws nationwide. This was a particularly difficult endeavour, given that the responsibility for gun laws sits primarily with the states.

The Howard Government’s proposed firearm legislation received considerable public attention. While most Australians supported tighter gun laws, many farmers and recreational shooters came out in force to oppose the changes. Howard also had to persuade state governments to agree on reforms. Howard held a series of public meetings—including one where he famously wore a bullet-proof vest—to explain the proposals to the public and he worked closely with state and territory governments.

Four months after the Port Arthur massacre, the Commonwealth and the states finalised a National Firearms Agreement. The agreement provided for a ban on certain types of firearms; nationwide registration; licencing requirements; a 28-day cooling-off period following the purchase of a gun; and restrictions on who could sell firearms. In addition to the agreement, the Australian Government initiated a gun buyback scheme and amnesty that paid approximately $304 million to gun owners in exchange for their firearms.

Since 1996 the number of gun-related deaths (including suicides) in Australia has significantly decreased.
 

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My country had the guts to do something about controlling guns, and it was a right wing Prime Minister, John Howard, that lead the way.

The US just sends prayers and condolences to the families...and then just goes back to conform to the wishes of the NRA and making up excuses why it's better to have more guns.

The Port Arthur massacre occurred on 28 April 1996 when a 25-year old man murdered 35 people and wounded more than 18 others in the town of Port Arthur in Tasmania.

At the time of the Port Arthur massacre, firearm laws were more relaxed and varied considerably between states. The perpetrator of the Port Arthur massacre owned three firearms, including one he purchased from a newspaper advertisement, despite never holding a gun licence.

Six weeks prior to the Port Arthur massacre, John Howard became Prime Minister in a landslide victory for the Coalition. A year earlier Howard had expressed his disapproval of gun culture in the United States and his desire to reduce the number of firearms in Australia. Following the Port Arthur massacre, Howard pursued ambitious policies to reform gun laws nationwide. This was a particularly difficult endeavour, given that the responsibility for gun laws sits primarily with the states.

The Howard Government’s proposed firearm legislation received considerable public attention. While most Australians supported tighter gun laws, many farmers and recreational shooters came out in force to oppose the changes. Howard also had to persuade state governments to agree on reforms. Howard held a series of public meetings—including one where he famously wore a bullet-proof vest—to explain the proposals to the public and he worked closely with state and territory governments.

Four months after the Port Arthur massacre, the Commonwealth and the states finalised a National Firearms Agreement. The agreement provided for a ban on certain types of firearms; nationwide registration; licencing requirements; a 28-day cooling-off period following the purchase of a gun; and restrictions on who could sell firearms. In addition to the agreement, the Australian Government initiated a gun buyback scheme and amnesty that paid approximately $304 million to gun owners in exchange for their firearms.

Since 1996 the number of gun-related deaths (including suicides) in Australia has significantly decreased.
But Australia has 25 million citizens VS the USA with 330 million plus we border South America so it won't work.
 

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But Australia has 25 million citizens VS the USA with 330 million plus we border South America so it won't work.
That's just a cop out.

So Americans will continue to send prayers and condolences, and do absolutely nothing else, while countless innocent lives are lost every year. So much for empathy for your fellow man. :rolleyes:

Guns overtook car crashes to become the leading cause of death for US children and teenagers in 2020, new research shows.
Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that over 4,300 young Americans died of firearm-related injuries in 2020.
While suicides contributed to the toll, the data shows that homicides form the majority of gun-related deaths.
BTW: I am a rifle owner, as are both my brothers and father.
Obviously I don't have mine here in the Philippines, its at my parents house in Sydney.
 

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That's just a cop out.

So Americans will continue to send prayers and condolences, and do absolutely nothing else, while countless innocent lives are lost every year. So much for empathy for your fellow man. :rolleyes:



BTW: I am a rifle owner, as are both my brothers and father.
Obviously I don't have mine here in the Philippines, its at my parents house in Sydney.
Countless innocents lives are lost due to abortion, but you do not seem to see that as a problem.

Chuck
 
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