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Looks as though it's out.

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I think that the occupation list, mostly for common occupations, remains unchanged. Hopefully, the occupation ceilings would be raised a bit, but its chances might be highly unlikely.
By the way, any thought for 233914 (NSW: 60+5), only 190?
 

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DIBP just confirmed the list. Anyway, here's the DIBP link :

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work...sessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists
Occupations available for General Skilled Migration visa programmes

If you are applying for any of the below:

Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) – Points-tested stream
Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 489) - Family nominated
Temporary Graduate visa (subclass 485) – Graduate Work Stream.

you will need to nominate an occupation from the MLTSSL of the relevant legislative instrument – see: IMMI 17/072 Specification of Occupations and Assessing Authorities.

If you are applying for any of the below:

Skilled Nominated visa (subclass 190)
Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 489) - State or Territory nominated.

You will need to nominate an occupation from the same legislative instrument above. Additional occupations included in the STSOL will, however, also be available to you.
Note: the above instrument also restricts the use of certain occupations to certain subclasses listed above.
Only 12 Occupations were removed: https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work...occupations-lists/removed-skilled-occupations

List of removed occupations


Occupations entirely removed from the list of eligible skilled occupations on 1 July 2017 are listed below. Nine of these were eligible for 457 and 186 visas on 19 April 2017 (marked by ^).

Occupation ANZSCO code
Equipment Hire Manager^ 149915
Fleet Manager^ 149411
Picture Framer^ 394212
Property Manager^ 612112
Psychotherapist^ 272314
Real Estate Agent Principal^ 612113
Real Estate Agent^ 612114
Real Estate Agent Representative^ 612115
Ship’s Engineer 231212
Ship’s Master 231213
Ship’s Officer 231214
University Tutor^ 242112
 

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I think that the occupation list, mostly for common occupations, remains unchanged. Hopefully, the occupation ceilings would be raised a bit, but its chances might be highly unlikely.
By the way, any thought for 233914 (NSW: 60+5), only 190?
Sorry mate, there is no chance for 60 points in 189/190. 65 is at least minimum and lets hope it doesn't increase (hope the quota remains same or increased).
 

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https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2017L00850/Html/Text

Can someone please confirm if that legislation corresponds to the new MLTSSl and STSOL for 189. 190 and 489 visa commencing from 1st July 2017 ?

233914 and almost all occupations seems unchanged.
The list of jobs removed has been published but I can't access the MLTSSL or the STSOL List as such.
There have been jobs which have moved from STSOL to MLTSSL so it's important


If You can, please post the link

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Zaback... good to see you are back ... :)

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Thanks mate. Lets get ready for the invite. Hopefully we will both get our invite this month and quota remains same or increased and no more rule changes.
 
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Thanks mate. Lets get ready for the invite. Hopefully we will both get our invite this month and quota remains same or increased and no more rule changes.
Totally, 12th July round will clear a lot of confusion.

There are mixed responses for pro rata occupations.

Apparently even with 75, I may not receive an invite in July though it seems illogical to me.

Fingers crossed.

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now that this is out and 2613xx is still on the list, hopefully ACS will soon release the results for folks waiting since 1st week of June..... :D
 

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Totally, 12th July round will clear a lot of confusion.

There are mixed responses for pro rata occupations.

Apparently even with 75, I may not receive an invite in July though it seems illogical to me.

Fingers crossed.

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It's all crystal ball stuff, but here's the thinking. The last invite round back in April(??) saw only 70+ pointers get invited (less invites). That gave a great insight into the rate of application for 70+ pointers. It looks like they are submitting EOIs at a rate just below the 60 invites per two weeks being taken off the list. We've had a few weeks since then, so a decent queue of 70+ pointers has built up. What's not clear is how many 75+ pointers there are in that bunch. If it's a handful,you'll get an invite first round. If it's a decent proportion of them, it might take a couple of rounds to clear, perhaps more. On a side note, anything less than 60 invites per round will, IMHO, effectively shut 189 for anyone below 70 points for 2611xx.
 

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It's all crystal ball stuff, but here's the thinking. The last invite round back in April(??) saw only 70+ pointers get invited (less invites). That gave a great insight into the rate of application for 70+ pointers. It looks like they are submitting EOIs at a rate just below the 60 invites per two weeks being taken off the list. We've had a few weeks since then, so a decent queue of 70+ pointers has built up. What's not clear is how many 75+ pointers there are in that bunch. If it's a handful,you'll get an invite first round. If it's a decent proportion of them, it might take a couple of rounds to clear, perhaps more. On a side note, anything less than 60 invites per round will, IMHO, effectively shut 189 for anyone below 70 points for 2611xx.
As per Immitracker.. there are 8 applicants with 75 points as of yesterday.

24 applicants in total for 70 and 75.


This is for 261111/12

Appreciate its a small sample of the entire populace.

So yeah we should know on 12th July.



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Totally, 12th July round will clear a lot of confusion.

There are mixed responses for pro rata occupations.

Apparently even with 75, I may not receive an invite in July though it seems illogical to me.

Fingers crossed.

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You will get invite. There are not many 75+ pointers in any cases I am guessing 26 July definitely if not 12 July. Only reason for 26 July is due to the the number invite getting reduced to 2000 from 3000 last year.
 
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Guys I have seen one more occupation added in the list with occupation code 262112 with title ICT security specialist. Whats your view whether it will be added in the nominated occupations for 189 visa class.
 

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Guys I have seen one more occupation added in the list with occupation code 262112 with title ICT security specialist. Whats your view whether it will be added in the nominated occupations for 189 visa class.
Yes it is eligible for 189. Congrats !
 

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Can I submit EOI for two occupation codes simultaneously. Previously I had applied with 2631111 occupation which is affected with pro-rata thing. My RnR will support the Security Specialist role.
 

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Can I submit EOI for two occupation codes simultaneously. Previously I had applied with 2631111 occupation which is affected with pro-rata thing. My RnR will support the Security Specialist role.
Yes you can, if you have 262112 assessment letter already.

On another note, I am not sure but I heard ACS doesn't allow two occupations simultaneously (better check). So, if you got 262112 recently assessed, then you can apply with it.

But 262112 is new and not sure if it will be pro rata from July. You can wait and find out. If not, then 60 points should do it.
 

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You all need to be careful and understand correctly the new lists. You all know there are two list, the MLTSSL and the STSOL.

These two list are specific for each type of visa. For example, there are MLTSSL and STSOL lists for the General Skill Migraiton visa programs 189, 489, 485, 190 and 489, and there are another two MLTSSL and STSOL lists for the Employer Sponsored visas 457 and 186.

The two are very similar, but the two of these DO NOT have exactly the same occupations so you need to be very careful and read the entire legislative instrument that correspond to your type of visa to make sure you are applying correctly.
 
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