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Hi all

So I'm about to submit my ACS documents for skills assessment. I'm concerned that they will only assess me as computer professional (nec) and with NO specialisation in brackets. Without the specialisation in brackets it looks like I will get 110 points on my visa application.

As the requirement is 120 does this mean my visa application would totally fail, and thus I waste £2000. Or would it just mean they take longer to process my visa application?? Is there any other way I can 'earn' the extra 10 points I need?

Hope my query is clear

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Stu.
 

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you have to assess your skills as a job in the csl otherwise your application wiil not be accepted as you dont have enough points which are 120 only (pass mark)
110 points is called pool mark which means that you have to wait for infintiy until your job becomes in the csl
is your job in the csl or not ?
 

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Hi dr hazouma. Thanks for the reply

Perhaps I've not explained fully

Yes my job would be in the CSL as I am a webmaster. However my job does not appear in the MODL, which is where I'd gather the additional 15 points I think I might need. My job is not specifically in any of the specialisations listed in the MODL. It looks like with only 110 points it is not even worth submitting my visa application.
 

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Hi dr hazouma. Thanks for the reply

Perhaps I've not explained fully

Yes my job would be in the CSL as I am a webmaster. However my job does not appear in the MODL, which is where I'd gather the additional 15 points I think I might need. My job is not specifically in any of the specialisations listed in the MODL. It looks like with only 110 points it is not even worth submitting my visa application.
Hi SMJ,

For Computing Professionals (who have professions and specialties on the current MODL) will qualify under the CSL, i.e. your skill should be in MODL to qualify for CSL. details are available in immi website.


You can also look for the possibility of obtaining state sponsorship this will give you valuable points as well as fast processing.

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Hi dr hazouma. Thanks for the reply

Perhaps I've not explained fully

Yes my job would be in the CSL as I am a webmaster. However my job does not appear in the MODL, which is where I'd gather the additional 15 points I think I might need. My job is not specifically in any of the specialisations listed in the MODL. It looks like with only 110 points it is not even worth submitting my visa application.
Webmaster is not in CSL. I think you mean you are on SOL. Don't get those confused. Jobs that are CSL (critical skills list) are also MODL. If you have no specialization on your ACS assessment then you do not qualify for MODL points, therefore neither MODL or CSL.

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Aha yes thank you mat that makes sense.

There's so many acronyms it gets confusing. Basically my skills are not in the specialized list of the modl so I guess I'd miss out on those 15 points. So this leaves me in a stalemate :(

Mr India - thanks for your comment. What is involved in state sponsorship? I've only heard of work sponsorship. I need an extra 10 points from somewhere otherwise my plan is over before it's even begun.
 

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Aha yes thank you mat that makes sense.

There's so many acronyms it gets confusing. Basically my skills are not in the specialized list of the modl so I guess I'd miss out on those 15 points. So this leaves me in a stalemate :(

Mr India - thanks for your comment. What is involved in state sponsorship? I've only heard of work sponsorship. I need an extra 10 points from somewhere otherwise my plan is over before it's even begun.
sjm.. what other points are you lacking on.. I am application programmer and non MODL and I have enough points to qualify. Maybe post how you achieved your score of 110.
 

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Here is what I have gotten from my inputs I have made on the Immi.gov website so far:

Occupation 60
Age 25
English language 15
Specific work experience 10
Australian work experience 0
Australian educational 0
Occupation in demand 0
Regional and low population growth Australia 0
Spouse/de facto partner skill 0
State or Territory nominated 0
Designated area 0

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Total Points: 110


As you see without any points for Occupation on Demand I only seem to score 110.

Mat, if you do not get MODL points, how come you have enough points to hit 120 to qualify ?

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Here is what I have gotten from my inputs I have made on the Immi.gov website so far:

Occupation 60
Age 25
English language 15
Specific work experience 10
Australian work experience 0
Australian educational 0
Occupation in demand 0
Regional and low population growth Australia 0
Spouse/de facto partner skill 0
State or Territory nominated 0
Designated area 0

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Total Points: 110


As you see without any points for Occupation on Demand I only seem to score 110.

Mat, if you do not get MODL points, how come you have enough points to hit 120 to qualify ?

Thanks,
Stu.
If you sit, and pass, the IELTS language test you can get 25 points instead of just 15.
 

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one issue with that mat:

If you are the holder of an eligible passport from either the:

United Kingdom (UK);
Canada;
New Zealand;
United States of America (USA); or
Republic of Ireland

you are considered to have met the threshold English language requirement (competent or vocational English) and are not required to sit an IELTS or OET test.

I guess this means, they wont accept any extra points I might gain from sitting such a test, as they are telling me I dont need to sit it, as I'm UK passport holder, and English native speaker.
 

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one issue with that mat:

If you are the holder of an eligible passport from either the:

United Kingdom (UK);
Canada;
New Zealand;
United States of America (USA); or
Republic of Ireland

you are considered to have met the threshold English language requirement (competent or vocational English) and are not required to sit an IELTS or OET test.

I guess this means, they wont accept any extra points I might gain from sitting such a test, as they are telling me I dont need to sit it, as I'm UK passport holder, and English native speaker.
noooo.. you misunderstood it... you can sit the test to 'prove' you are proficient and get the 25 points... just because you have a British passport doesn't necessarily mean you have good English skills. I took the test to get the 25 points needed for the visa, otherwise I would have only had 110 points too.

Skilled – Independent (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 175)
 

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noooo.. you misunderstood it... you can sit the test to 'prove' you are proficient and get the 25 points... just because you have a British passport doesn't necessarily mean you have good English skills. I took the test to get the 25 points needed for the visa, otherwise I would have only had 110 points too.

Skilled – Independent (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 175)
i completely agree with matjones as u can sit for ILTES even with british passport...even i m in the same boat n would require 25 marks from ILTES to get 120 pass mark(as I m on non-MODl, non-CSL list)
 

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HI Sjm,

1. You can take IELTS with 7 band score and claim 25 points.
2. state sponsorship will only give you 5 points and binds you to stay in sponsored state for two years.

I agree with matjones here to try for IELTS path.

wish you Good Luck..
 

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HI Sjm,

1. You can take IELTS with 7 band score and claim 25 points.
2. state sponsorship will only give you 5 points and binds you to stay in sponsored state for two years.

I agree with matjones here to try for IELTS path.

wish you Good Luck..
but one imp advantage of State sponsorship is that u wll get the visa quickly...as compared to non-MODL & non-CSL...
 

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Hey SJM,

You may also consider visa sub class 176 or 886 as pass marks for these categories is 100 only.

Visit the url : What is the points test? - Workers - Visas & Immigration for more details.
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Category Pass mark Pool mark
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Skilled – Independent (Migrant) visa (subclass 175) 120 100
Skilled – Sponsored (Migrant) visa (subclass 176) 100 80
Skilled – Regional Sponsored (subclass 475) 100 100
Skilled – Independent (Residence) visa (subclass 885) 120 120
Skilled – Sponsored (Residence) visa (subclass 886) 100 100
Skilled – Regional Sponsored (subclass 487) 100 100
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guys, thank you so much for the advice, thats awesome.

I am not actually in a huge hurry to get the visa, I am happy to wait 12 months to be honest. I will go down the IETL language test route, and claim my extra 15 points, thus taking me to the required 120.

WOOHOO - thats really put my mind at ease. Thanks so much guys, This forum, really has some useful stuff.

One thing - Matjones - are you already in OZ ? i.e. you did the IETL and managed to secure the 120 points on your actual VISA application?

Cheers
Stu. :)
 

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guys, thank you so much for the advice, thats awesome.

I am not actually in a huge hurry to get the visa, I am happy to wait 12 months to be honest. I will go down the IETL language test route, and claim my extra 15 points, thus taking me to the required 120.

WOOHOO - thats really put my mind at ease. Thanks so much guys, This forum, really has some useful stuff.

One thing - Matjones - are you already in OZ ? i.e. you did the IETL and managed to secure the 120 points on your actual VISA application?

Cheers
Stu. :)
Im still in US right now, filed my application on March 3, 09.
 

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ok, cool.

Would love to hear the outcome of your visa application - I hope you'll update us on the forum,

Good luck with it, hoping for the best result for you ;)

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guys, thank you so much for the advice, thats awesome.

I am not actually in a huge hurry to get the visa, I am happy to wait 12 months to be honest. I will go down the IETL language test route, and claim my extra 15 points, thus taking me to the required 120.

WOOHOO - thats really put my mind at ease. Thanks so much guys, This forum, really has some useful stuff.

One thing - Matjones - are you already in OZ ? i.e. you did the IETL and managed to secure the 120 points on your actual VISA application?

Cheers
Stu. :)
I strongly suggest picking up the official IELTS practice material. I found it really useful in prepping for the test.

http://www.ielts.org/pdf/IELTS_SpecMatsOrderFormJan05.pdf
 
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