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Hi all, just joined this forum from Austalia. My husband and I have been planning to emigrate to the US for a while. He is a US citizen and has recently moved back to the States to set up a job and home so that he can sponser me and the children. When he arrived he applied for his SSN, as he did not receive one as a child before leaving the country (Ca). He has been in the US for over 5 weeks. Still no SSN ...and it seems that noone at the SS Office is interested in answering the phone, let alone following up paperwork.
I have a few questions that I am interested in finding an answer for and would be grateful for some advice.
1. Does anyone have sugestions about how to speed up the process with the SSN?
2. Is it essential to have a SSN to apply for employment?
3. Is an SSN required to enter into a lease agreement for a home?
4. When you submit i-130 forms do you also submit the affidavit of support at the same time, or does it happen later?

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In a perfect world it will take about three weeks to get a SS#. Has your husband been to the SS office with his paperwork in hand to follow up on his request? Make sure he takes a book. Griping does not get you anywhere. A limited number of switchbaord operators can only answer a limited number of calls. He can try the phone route but will have to deal with extended hold periods.

No SS# no job with a reputable company. How has he filed his annual tax returns or signed for Selective Services without SS#?

Very few rental agents will lease without a background check which again requires a SS#.

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Hi all, just joined this forum from Austalia. My husband and I have been planning to emigrate to the US for a while. He is a US citizen and has recently moved back to the States to set up a job and home so that he can sponser me and the children. When he arrived he applied for his SSN, as he did not receive one as a child before leaving the country (Ca). He has been in the US for over 5 weeks. Still no SSN ...and it seems that noone at the SS Office is interested in answering the phone, let alone following up paperwork.
I have a few questions that I am interested in finding an answer for and would be grateful for some advice.
1. Does anyone have sugestions about how to speed up the process with the SSN?
2. Is it essential to have a SSN to apply for employment?
3. Is an SSN required to enter into a lease agreement for a home?
4. When you submit i-130 forms do you also submit the affidavit of support at the same time, or does it happen later?
1.just fill in form SS5 and walk into any SSA office and queue
2. yes.
3. mostly
4. http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/New%20Str...uides/A1en.pdf

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In a perfect world it will take about three weeks to get a SS#. Has your husband been to the SS office with his paperwork in hand to follow up on his request? Make sure he takes a book. Griping does not get you anywhere. A limited number of switchbaord operators can only answer a limited number of calls. He can try the phone route but will have to deal with extended hold periods.

No SS# no job with a reputable company. How has he filed his annual tax returns or signed for Selective Services without SS#?

Very few rental agents will lease without a background check which again requires a SS#.
It is not a matter of griping, it is about being practical and being able to make sure he can afford to stay. Before my husband took the trip we called Social Security to get the estimate of how long it would take to receive a SSN in this particular circumstance. We were advised 8 days. 3 weeks absolute maximum. I have no issue that processing can run overtime and we have allowed for some contingency, but since joining this forum I have read of many instances where people are waiting up to 6 months for a SSN. That is a long time to wait with the sense of uncertainty, not being able to apply for a job, not able to get a lease for more affordable accomodation, not being able to open a bank account.

I appreciate the role of the SSN as a centralised form of governance in the US but there are many aspects of its function I do not understand. I am hoping that through this forum, it will become clearer and perhaps there may be suggestions of how to work around these issues on a temporary basis. eg. what do you mean by a reputable company? Does that mean that there is no such thing as a legal cash-in-hand job in the US? At what level of engagement does an employer require an SSN? He is not looking for a career at this point, just a way to cover his own expenses until a SSN, and better job turns up. Any suggestions?

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[quote=Davis1;348598]1.just fill in form SS5 and walk into any SSA office and queue
2. yes.
3. mostly
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Thanks for the link. It was a very clear.
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It is not a matter of griping, it is about being practical and being able to make sure he can afford to stay. Before my husband took the trip we called Social Security to get the estimate of how long it would take to receive a SSN in this particular circumstance. We were advised 8 days. 3 weeks absolute maximum. I have no issue that processing can run overtime and we have allowed for some contingency, but since joining this forum I have read of many instances where people are waiting up to 6 months for a SSN. That is a long time to wait with the sense of uncertainty, not being able to apply for a job, not able to get a lease for more affordable accomodation, not being able to open a bank account. ?
Unless there are significant issues it does not take six weeks to apply for and receive a SS#. Has your husband been to the SS Office by now?

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I appreciate the role of the SSN as a centralised form of governance in the US but there are many aspects of its function I do not understand. I am hoping that through this forum, it will become clearer and?
It is like administration in every place I lived - learn the rules and play by them.

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perhaps there may be suggestions of how to work around these issues on a temporary basis. eg. what do you mean by a reputable company? Does that mean that there is no such thing as a legal cash-in-hand job in the US? At what level of engagement does an employer require an SSN? He is not looking for a career at this point, just a way to cover his own expenses until a SSN, and better job turns up. Any suggestions?

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf
This should explain your questions regarding a legal cash-in-hand job. No reputable employer will risk a finding in an EEOC audit over someone who is looking for a better job to turn up.

You did not answer my questions about his US income tax filings which he will need for your application. Has he at least signed up for Selective Service? You stress the need for US income. Have you solved the financial side of his sponsorship for you and the children. You say he will sponsor the children which makes me assume they are not his. Have you cleared everything with the other party so you can take them out of country?

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He is a US citizen and has recently moved back to the States to set up a job and home so that he can sponser me and the children. When he arrived he applied for his SSN, as he did not receive one as a child before leaving the country (Ca). He has been in the US for over 5 weeks. Still no SSN ...and it seems that noone at the SS Office is interested in answering the phone, let alone following up paperwork.
The issue is that no SSN was issued when he was a child. This causes SSA to believe that he is applying for a second number, and they sometimes request copious proof as to why his parents did not originally apply for a number.

The best course of action at this point is to contact one of his federal congress persons. He has two senators and one representative based on where he is currently resident. Look up their web sites and find their SSA liaison support -- this person has the back office number to SSA folks who can make things happen. Choose one (and only one!) of them and submit your detailed info and whatever other paperwork they require.

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The issue is that no SSN was issued when he was a child. This causes SSA to believe that he is applying for a second number, and they sometimes request copious proof as to why his parents did not originally apply for a number.

The best course of action at this point is to contact one of his federal congress persons. He has two senators and one representative based on where he is currently resident. Look up their web sites and find their SSA liaison support -- this person has the back office number to SSA folks who can make things happen. Choose one (and only one!) of them and submit your detailed info and whatever other paperwork they require.
It sounds like he has not even tried pleading his case in person to find out what the hold up is. It can be something easily taken care of. Before he can rattle cages he needs to get his ducks in a row.

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It sounds like he has not even tried pleading his case in person to find out what the hold up is. It can be something easily taken care of. Before he can rattle cages he needs to get his ducks in a row.
Federal workers are a law unto themselves! There are two ways of kicking their behinds: congressional pressure and writ of mandamus.

The message for those with American children born abroad is sort their paperwork out now! They need a consular record of birth, SSN and passport. Don't dillydally!

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I think fatbrit is right here - the fact of his applying for his first social security number as an adult is causing red flags to shoot up in the system and that's most likely the cause of the delay. A personal appearance at the local social security office is probably called for - and chances are, he'll have to take a number and wait, so he should bring a good book to read.

No SS# also means he hasn't filed US taxes before. He'll have to get those done before he'll be able to sponsor you, if I understand the system correctly. As long as "the children" are his children, they should already be US citizens based on his citizenship. Were they registered with the Consulate when they were born? Because they are going to need US passports to enter the US if they are citizens.

BTW, how did your husband get a US passport without having a SS#? That may also be raising a few red flags in the process and aggravating the delay.
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