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So now whats she doing? Will you fly to her?
who are you angry and frustrated at? at the paper work and the red tape?

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If I fly there, I can only stay a week or so. If she flies here, we can spend thirty days together and I can still fly there when my schedule allows.

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If I fly there, I can only stay a week or so. If she flies here, we can spend thirty days together and I can still fly there when my schedule allows.
There's usually not a whole lot of paperwork associated with bribes.

The travel agency has been less than communicative and could have saved me several hundred dollars if they had played it straight.

Mostly I'm angry with Steve Jobs for selling me an iPhone that doesn't have an app pre-installed for detecting hustles.

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I am angry and frustrated today.

I invited a lady friend from the Philippines to visit me. I had wanted her to visit me in the States, but the only way for that to happen would have been with a fiancée visa which would have involved a bit of artifice with the State Department. I don’t mind circumventing unfair laws, particularly those that discriminate against fun-loving bachelors. However, it would have also involved raising questions I didn’t care to raise. Anyway, it never happened.

But visiting Thailand seemed a much simpler, more attainable goal. She has a passport. Filipinas don’t even need a visa for visits of thirty days or less. Fares on a puddle jumper were fairly inexpensive. What could possibly go wrong?

I sent her money for the tickets and incidental expenses and looked forward to seeing her again after two long years.

The travel agency wouldn’t sell her the ticket without a notarized letter of invitation.

I checked the Thai consulate web site and argued with the agency, but they were insistent. So I trekked out to the Thai consular offices, which are about halfway to the Myanmar border, where I was assured by several earnest government employees that she didn’t need a letter of invitation.

A terse letter to the travel agency elicited a clarification. While she doesn’t need an invitation to enter Thailand, she needs one to leave the Philippines because there is always “prejudice” against Filipinas. They obviously aren’t heeding Chairman Mao’s advice on emigration policy.

Thailand doesn’t really have notaries. The embassy will notarize documents for U.S. citizens and some lawyers will notarize documents for a fairly hefty fee, but you can’t just drop by your friendly neighborhood bank and get something notarized as a favor.

The red-shirt protests and government intervention gave me a couple of unanticipated days off, but also resulted in the embassies closing, as well as law offices. But in the midst of the mayhem the U.S. embassy set up temporary accommodations for consular services at a hotel so I spent a morning cribbing an invitation from an example found on the Internet and getting it notarized.

I couldn’t send it right away because the post office, FedEx and UPS were also closed. But the letter and other requested documents eventually began their journey.

Meanwhile, the travel agency suggested a plan B. Apparently girls aren’t harassed at the airport if they are traveling in the company of a tourist, so the agency proposed arranging for one of their other clients to beard for me. But somehow that never happened. Marylyn says she waited for them to text her, but they never followed through.

Meanwhile, my documents arrived in the Philippines and the agency assured me the invitation letter would suffice.

But the money I sent Marylyn for her ticket had somehow evaporated, so I sent her money for two more tickets and incidentals.

Finally, all the pieces were in place. The e-ticket was issued. The wait was over. I checked on the airport shuttle schedule and bought her a T-shirt printed in Thai with “I heart Thailand.”

They wouldn’t let her on the plane.

I’m not sure of all the details. I got a tearful call from a hysterical girl speaking in broken English. Apparently, the Philippine emigration officer wasn’t satisfied with her invitation letter and claimed it wasn’t an original, which doesn’t make sense as it was embossed with an official seal. I suspect he simply wanted a bribe. If she had called from the airport, I could have suggested she try to smooth things out with a contribution to the Greedy Scumbags Benevolent Association, but she didn’t call me until she got home. She had exhausted the prepaid balance on her cell phone and had not replenished it, as she wouldn’t be using the phone in Thailand and the official wouldn’t allow her to use his phone. It’s a bit of a lame excuse, as they sell phone cards at the airport. At least they do in Manila. But one can’t expect an emotionally distraught girl to think clearly.

My plans for the next month have gone out the window.

But it doesn’t end there. Today she went to the travel agency to try to pick up the pieces. They were closed. In her agitation, she left her cell phone in the trike (a motorcycle taxi with a covered side car). This is the third phone she’s gone through in the past two years.

Maybe Nona is trying to tell me something.

It isn’t like there aren’t enough pretty girls in Thailand.

She’s cuter than most, but still.

Gino,

I went through the same thing about 2 1/2 years ago with our good old State Department. I wanted to invite a friend I met on my travels to eastern Europe. I had an extra air ticket [free] to use and thought it would be fun to show her my area of the world and a trip to California for the "big do" the third week in August for automobile lovers/fanatics. Long story short, they told her one thing and me another. Finally I pinned the ******s down and they agreed she could come.....

But I would have to agree to be FULLY responsible for her financially should she be injured/hospitalized or decide to stay in America. Regretfully I couldn't afford to take a chance so I had to disappoint her. One other tidbit they admitted - she COULD get a visa to come here, get on the airplane, make the long journey and arrive in the USA and the immigration person she first met with could deny her and send her packing - it's TOTALLY up to that person. The recourse she would have had at that point would be to remain in detention, hire an attorney and appear before a judge. She would probably have prevailed BUT I doubt she could have afforded the attorney. Evidently our vaunted US government has as it's motto, "we're not happy until you're not happy". Vote them ALL out.

Meanwhile MILLIONS of "undocumented aliens" aka illegals waltz across our border every year. Once here NO ONE bothers them unless they run afoul of the law and even then they might just do a "catch and release". Our government seems to hate two groups of people - any female from the Philippines and any bachelor wanting to invite her to our country. Or, apparently, to Thailand.

As a last suggestion, why not hop on an airplane, fly there and bring her back with you. I know it would cost a bit much but that might work.

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I think I`d be angry that I`d been ripped off and frustrated that i`d been so daft!!
I don`t mean to be rude but there are proabably a hundred guys reading this who have been caught up in something similar.

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Gino,

Jeeze, you don't want to marry her. You aren't in love with her. Yet, you're spend a bunch of money to see her after two years. Assuming what you said (above) is accurate, does the phrase "On to the next" make any sense to you?

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I went through the same thing about 2 1/2 years ago with our good old State Department. I wanted to invite a friend I met on my travels to eastern Europe. I had an extra air ticket [free] to use and thought it would be fun to show her my area of the world and a trip to California for the "big do" the third week in August for automobile lovers/fanatics. Long story short, they told her one thing and me another. Finally I pinned the ******s down and they agreed she could come.....

But I would have to agree to be FULLY responsible for her financially should she be injured/hospitalized or decide to stay in America. Regretfully I couldn't afford to take a chance so I had to disappoint her. One other tidbit they admitted - she COULD get a visa to come here, get on the airplane, make the long journey and arrive in the USA and the immigration person she first met with could deny her and send her packing - it's TOTALLY up to that person. The recourse she would have had at that point would be to remain in detention, hire an attorney and appear before a judge. She would probably have prevailed BUT I doubt she could have afforded the attorney. Evidently our vaunted US government has as it's motto, "we're not happy until you're not happy". Vote them ALL out.

Meanwhile MILLIONS of "undocumented aliens" aka illegals waltz across our border every year. Once here NO ONE bothers them unless they run afoul of the law and even then they might just do a "catch and release". Our government seems to hate two groups of people - any female from the Philippines and any bachelor wanting to invite her to our country. Or, apparently, to Thailand.

As a last suggestion, why not hop on an airplane, fly there and bring her back with you. I know it would cost a bit much but that might work.

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Tell ya what, I've have been coming to the Philippines since the me 90's and have live here in the Philippines for over seven years.
Seems to me you are or have been badly used. lost cell phone? A Filipina will protect a cell phone like it was a virgin daughter. Forget to get a load for the phone? Hahaha--never. And finally trouble with outbound immigration? Possible but doubtful as they handle these things daily.
It's a sad truth, but many girls make a living getting money from foreigners and I may be wrong, but this sounds like just another scam to me.

More trouble than its worth and many fish in the sea----keep fishing.


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Wow, that does sound quite a hassle to get her over here. Assuming she's not in on the scam it sounds like someone is and they're going to make it as hard/expensive as they can for you.
Like the others said, just fly there yourself and check things out, or move on.

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She finally made it in late Thursday night for what I hope will be the first of many trips.

One unexpected problem is that everybody assumes she can speak Thai. They’re surprised to learn the Asian girl doesn’t speak Thai, but the Italian kid does.

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One unexpected problem is that everybody assumes she can speak Thai. They’re surprised to learn the Asian girl doesn’t speak Thai, but the Italian kid does.
Wishful thinking? (The 'kid' bit, not the speaking Thai...)

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