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Old 21st February 2018, 02:44 AM
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I have used Phuket International Hospital many times during my 8+ years in Phuket and was recently been diagnosed with a condition that will require 2 prescriptions for the rest of my life. Refilling the prescriptions is required, and they’re not available (as with many effective medicines) at a normal pharmacy.

Here’s the problem with PIH.

PIH will not refill the prescriptions without having an appointment with a doctor. A doctor appointment, just to refill these prescriptions, is a needless extra expense and a waste of both a doctor’s and my time. This results in an extra β800 for the doctor and β120 for PIH. All to treat a condition they diagnosed. I know their diagnosis was correct and the prescriptions work, but, I have to wonder if they’re more interested in increasing their profits than in caring for their patients.

How many patients are diagnosed with imaginary conditions, are over medicated, so PIH can charge exorbitant prices to “treat” them?

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I understand your point and frustration. Do you have to go through this monthly?

I'm on 5 different medications for life (for three different "fat guy" chronic conditions). In the US, before retirement, I was seeing my doctor every 3 months. He'd send in the blood work request ahead of the appointment, then go over "my numbers" with me when I saw him. This seemed reasonable, as all of the medications need fine-tuning of the dosage and, while having the desired positive effect on one number can have a negative effect on another number, so it all bears watching.

But if I had to do that every month it would be annoying. Twice a year would have probably been enough after the fine tuning period. I teased my doctor and asked him if he had a kid he was trying to put through college at my expense.

Instead of Thailand I ended up retiring to Mexico for various reasons. Here one of the things that I was on was completely unavailable and I had to find a doctor to decide on a substitute. But none of the things I'm on requires a prescription, for refills I can go to a pharmacy and just buy what I want. Sometimes the pills are on special, 2 for 1. That seems very strange to me. I'm paying less for the whole drug bill than I was paying in the US when I was just paying the co-pay.
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So far, monthly. And, the hospital is on the other side of Phuket with a drive through crazy traffic.

The hospital said "Sorry for the inconvenience, but this is due to Thai Professional Pharmacy Act and the hospital’s policy." There doesn't appear to be such a thing as the Thai Professional Pharmacy Act.

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What you should consider doing is taking a very good health insurance before getting out there... Just to give you an idea, I've to the dentist and after a quick diagnosis, the guy asked me to pay 15 000 baht just for a normal and easy treatment for a back tooth that was hurting me.

I ended up almost forced to pay, which I did not. But the guy was putting a lot of pressure on me. Health care is quite good out here, just be careful on where you end up, choose carefully and avoid private clinics for example.

That's all I can say from my personal experience

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Most dentists actually have a sign listing the costs for most services.

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Another visit to Bangkok Hospital - Hua Hin, another attempt at over-prescribe. I get lung infections far more often than most. Not good for older folks like me. After 2 weeks of bronchitis, a fever that came and went, the bronchitis worsened. Time to see the doc. Explained my symptoms (dry cough, wheeze). He asked about runny nose. Allergies, I replied. When asked, I said I was occasionally taking lozenges for throat irritation, but no meds for the bronchitis. He prescribed an antibiotic, as expected. He over-prescribed, also as expected.

The other drugs he prescribed and why I refused them at the hospital pharmacy after googling the drug names.
1. Aerius - multi symptom allergy relief. I use OTC meds.

2. Flemex - a mucolytic (thins mucus). I have a dry cough and a slight wheeze. There's nothing to cough up.

3. Symbicort Forte - powerful asthma treatment for when the 'as needed' inhalers don't work. I don't have asthma, and my dry cough gives me the same symptoms that this med causes as side effects: mild throat irritation, coughing, hoarseness. Thanks but no thanks.

4. Ropect - Codeine cough suppressant. I might enjoy the narcotic, but throat lozenges are working just fine.

5 Meptin Mini - Relaxes bronchial smooth muscle. Used for the treatment, control, prevention, & improvement of the following diseases, conditions and symptoms: Asthma, Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. I don't have either of those illnesses.

Combined, that was about $100 worth of meds.
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My treatment included prescriptions that were one or more of the following:
- unnecessary but harmless because i didn't have the symptom, e.g. Tylenol when I hadn't complained about pain and could buy it OTC.
- to be taken for longer than the pharma company advised,
- given in a dosage and combination that reduced blood clotting ability to life threatening levels should I have been seriously injured - and never warned me. The combination and dosage was legitimate treatment, the lack of warning was unconscionable.
- a drug that was prescribed and necessary while in the ICU and for the following week. It was totally unnecessary a year later when prescribed by a doctor who read my medical history, and didn't test for it. I had none of the symptoms, and he didn't ask about them.
- a powerful drug I needed years earlier for a condition that I had long since controlled through what I ate and how I ate it, plus daily 1/2 of the smallest dosage available of a former prescription drug that was now OTC. I asked for how long I needed to take it, though I knew what the answer should be. 'For the rest of your life' he said. The pharma company states clearly to not take it for more than 2 weeks in a row.

For minor stuff, Thais and expats don't see docs for antibiotics because they're available OTC. For the few times they've been prescribed, the dose and course were in line with what the pharma company recommends.

Don't want some or all of the drugs? You could try telling the Doctor. But he knows he's the most important person in the room, that questioning your elders and your superiors is an insult in Thai culture, and he makes money off the prescriptions.

In Thai hospitals one pays and receives their meds at the same time. The most recommended way of dealing with over prescribing is if any of your prescriptions are for more than 1 week tell them you only want enough for 1 week because if you can't tolerate the side effects you don't want to pay for something you cant' use. Don't ask, tell. Politely. With a friendly expression, tone of voice, and body language.
being a new member with some medical history as long as your arm,i can honestly say me and dancebert can provide a multitude of usefull information.me with a lot of info on government hospitals and doctor's.i don't have any medical insurance as I am well covered by self cover,so I am well aware of what cost what.just one EG.only 2months ago I had a CTA scan they wanted 25,000bht.the wife told them in good old fashion English which ends in OFF.got it down to 12,000,then 2weeks later I found out it was TOTALY NOT NEEDED TO BE DONE.SO BEWARE.
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I've had wonderful experiences with Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok (the hospital has branches all around the country, but their capital location is the best I think).

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I've had wonderful experiences with Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok (the hospital has branches all around the country, but their capital location is the best I think).
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BNH ... Everything about the experience motivated me to return
I second Dancebert's recommendation of BNH hospital in Bangkok.

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