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Old 12th January 2012, 03:59 PM
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Hi guys,

Just thought I would let you know there is a new vaccine being introduced against Leishmania. Whilst it isn't 100% effective, my vet says it is probably around 80-85% combined with the Scalibor Collars etc it should protect your dog from this dreaded disease better than the collars alone.

The vaccination consists of 3 vaccines taken at regular intervals, the cost is 50 euros per vaccine (that is what my vet is charging don't know if yours will be cheaper or dearer). However, once the first years vaccines have been given you need only have an annual booster of one vaccine. (If you consider the treatment for Leish costs on average 200-250 a time it works out pretty good value).

Your dog must be Leish free in order to have this vaccine, a test will have to be done prior to the vaccination programme but in the case of my vet he is offering a refund of the cost of said test when you take up the vaccination.

Anything has to be better than living with no protection and belt and braces protection has got to be a winner in my opinion.
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Whilst I agree with you, my own vet says she is not yet convinced. She says she has seen lots of vaccines try to be launched and are not really very effective. She showed me the article in one of her vets journals a fortnight ago and said she was sceptical also because there was no real data in the article, only that it was this that and the other and would come in Jan sometime.

So I guess we will see. Thing is, if it is not as effective as one would like, then you are just pumping more chemical into your dog that may well not work It's a toughie. Mine all wear scalibor collars and I also add garlic to their food, having had them tested it's so far so good......
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Thanks for the info, both of you!

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Whilst I agree with you, my own vet says she is not yet convinced. She says she has seen lots of vaccines try to be launched and are not really very effective. She showed me the article in one of her vets journals a fortnight ago and said she was sceptical also because there was no real data in the article, only that it was this that and the other and would come in Jan sometime.

So I guess we will see. Thing is, if it is not as effective as one would like, then you are just pumping more chemical into your dog that may well not work It's a toughie. Mine all wear scalibor collars and I also add garlic to their food, having had them tested it's so far so good......
I appreciate what your vet is saying, indeed my vet has said it isn't 100% effective and that she recommends that we continue to use the Scalibor collars however, to my mind it is a case of belt and braces and we all know ones trousers rarely fall down when held up in such a fashion.

With regards the Garlic in the dogs food, did you know it is poisonous to dogs? It is from the onion family (which are also poisonous) so with this in mind I don't give it to my dogs. (I believe it affects their liver but I am sure if I am incorrect someone who actually knows will be able to put me right).

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Garlic is really quite safe.

Even in the case of onions, a dog weighing 55lbs would need to eat between three quarters and a pound and a half of onions at one go to be poisoned. Garlic does contain the same chemical, but much less of it, and is probably less than half as toxic – so our same dog would need to eat two or three pounds of garlic to be poisoned.

So small amounts of garlic are fine – but as the toxic effect can to some extent accumulate with repeated doses, it is usually recommended having a break from continuous dosing now and then – so one week on, one week off is fine, or two weeks on, one week off would also be perfectly acceptable.

Garlic is such a health giving supplement – its anti infective, helps clears respiratory congestion, can strengthen the circulation, boosts the immune system, and helps keep parasites away
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Garlic is really quite safe.

Even in the case of onions, a dog weighing 55lbs would need to eat between three quarters and a pound and a half of onions at one go to be poisoned. Garlic does contain the same chemical, but much less of it, and is probably less than half as toxic – so our same dog would need to eat two or three pounds of garlic to be poisoned.

So small amounts of garlic are fine – but as the toxic effect can to some extent accumulate with repeated doses, it is usually recommended having a break from continuous dosing now and then – so one week on, one week off is fine, or two weeks on, one week off would also be perfectly acceptable.

Garlic is such a health giving supplement – its anti infective, helps clears respiratory congestion, can strengthen the circulation, boosts the immune system, and helps keep parasites away


Thats exactly what I did with my horses.. garlic everyday for two weeks and then a week on the recommendation of my vet.




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Strangely I chatted to the vet about this the other day an she was not totally convinced about the current effectiveness of the vaccine.
Having boxers the sandfly is a concern because of their short coats. She suggested instead using ADVANTIX very two weeks during the height of the sandfly season (late spring to end september)

Lots of info here The Canine Leishmaniasis web site

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Strangely I chatted to the vet about this the other day an she was not totally convinced about the current effectiveness of the vaccine.
Having boxers the sandfly is a concern because of their short coats. She suggested instead using ADVANTIX very two weeks during the height of the sandfly season (late spring to end september)

Lots of info here The Canine Leishmaniasis web site
Thanks.

And here from a vet in Madrid about a conference about the vaccine
http://vidavet.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=739%3 Avacuna-leishmania--ultimas-noticias&catid=20%3Anoticias&Itemid=178〈=es

And this which I think is advertising, but is easy to read
European Medicines Agency - Find medicine - CaniLeish

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Just thought I would comment on this one. I spoke to my vet about it, and he seems to think quite highly of it although he said that obviously its new so at the moment we can only go from what the menufacturers say.

He said that its absolutely imperative to do the blood test first to ensure they dont already have it otherwise the jabs could cause problems... my vet said he charges 120 euros for the blood test and 3 jabs and then the booster is 45.

He also said that the booster should not be done at the same time as other boosters!

Anyway, thats the info I have! Problem is I have 3 dogs so its going to be expensive... but I am seriously considering it!

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My partners daughter is a qualified vet nurse in the u.k. and her boss has said the same thing i.e. he doesn`t think it is 100% effective as yet, b.t.w. garlic is not part of the onion family, it is part of the lily family.
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