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Old 6th December 2010, 07:40 AM
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I have a tale to tell, my Spanish is not very good, and I have been ripped off.

When I left my flat the rent was up to date but the landlord retained my deposit.
He was not there when I moved out, and later said things were damaged and the place was not clean. Which is rubbish.
He will not answer my calls, and he has my post as well.

I don't get mad, I get even.
While I was living there he converted the garage into a dwelling.
Does anyone know the correct procedure for Planning Consent and Building Regulations in Spain?
Where can I find this out? in English please.
Then I can check it out, and, if it does not comply, tell the Local Authority.

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If you think I am being mean, that is your privilege.

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Its becoming apparent to me that the golden rule is NEVER PAY YOUR LAST MONTHS RENT! It seems very rare for anyone to get their deposits back! (I've lived in three properties and never have)

I see where your revenge is coming from, but it maybe far better to simply send your ex landlord some kind of warning/threat that you may let it slip to the authorities (go to the ayuntamiento??) about his "dwelling" ??? Altho it may not do any good?? Its also worth noting that he probably wasnt paying the correct tax on the rent he received from you (very few do)! But personally I wouldnt hold out much hope. Its one of those situations where you may have to simply walk away and forget it! IMO, and its not fair but we're the foreigners and we simply dont have the clout or experience to take the Spanish on

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I have a tale to tell, my Spanish is not very good, and I have been ripped off.

When I left my flat the rent was up to date but the landlord retained my deposit.
He was not there when I moved out, and later said things were damaged and the place was not clean. Which is rubbish.
He will not answer my calls, and he has my post as well.

I don't get mad, I get even.
While I was living there he converted the garage into a dwelling.
Does anyone know the correct procedure for Planning Consent and Building Regulations in Spain?
Where can I find this out? in English please.
Then I can check it out, and, if it does not comply, tell the Local Authority.

Thanks for your help
If you think I am being mean, that is your privilege.

I would forget about the garage, just sounds like too much trouble anyways.
But you must have a copy of the rental agreement and an inventory, right? If so, see what furninture or appliances he claims were damaged and if nothing was damaged and you had sent personnel to clean the apartament from top to bottom, then it is your legal right to get the the entire deposit amount back.

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Its a waste of time!
When my daughter was at Uni 6 girls lived in a house. They looked after it. The land lord had taken one months deposit off all of them at the start.

When the time was up, the landlord would not speak to anyone about the deposits saying he was using it towards the damages (that werent there). Thats in the UK .... you've got little realisting chance here

Stupidly, that landlord in the UK had not collected the last months rent off me, so I was OK, and he never chased me for it. The others werent so lucky.

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I would get even too. Wouldnt stand for that crap. I agree its best to send out a warning first. In my experience, threatening to contact the proper authorities gets you a long way.

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You could try speaking with the architect / planning dept at your local Town Hall, and then make a Denuncia if it transpired that the correct planning laws were not adhered to. However, I suspect that this would just draw a blank and the information would not be forthcoming.
As far as 'getting even' is concerned I think you may have more luck through the terms of your contract. If you did have a legally binding contract (in both langauges) then I am certain that he would be in breach of this contract. If you DIDN'T have a contract here then I am sure that the Tax Authorities and Town Hall would be interested to hear of this...
You may even be able to assert that You were made to leave the property without sufficient notice etc... perhaps OMIC (who have an office in most larger Towns) would be able to advise you further.

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Its becoming apparent to me that the golden rule is NEVER PAY YOUR LAST MONTHS RENT! It seems very rare for anyone to get their deposits back! (I've lived in three properties and never have)

Jo xxx
Absolutely correct. That's what I did when I left my last place and it's what I'll do when I leave here. Incidentally my last landlord (Spanish) was quite happy with that.

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There are two sides to the rental situation. Some people who were renting an acqaintance's property left leaving a load of debts and even returned after the rental period had expired and took out a barbecue which they had installed in lieu of a month's rent.

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There are two sides to the rental situation. Some people who were renting an acqaintance's property left leaving a load of debts and even returned after the rental period had expired and took out a barbecue which they had installed in lieu of a month's rent.
As someone who has been both landlord and recently tenant I can agree with that...
However...I have to say that our experience- as renters -of landlords are that they are a bunch of crooked b******s.
One of our tenants intercepted my mail, stole a credit card and PIN that had been sent erroneously to that address and obtained £5000 from cash machines with it.
But we have been ripped off in Prague and here by unscrupulous landlords.
Our current landlord, an Austrian massage parlour and brothel owner, is great. The kind of landlord we were. So we in turn are excellent tenants......

I should point out we were NOT brothel or massage parlour owners. Sadly, as we could have been rich had we been..

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As someone who has been both landlord and recently tenant I can agree with that...
However...I have to say that our experience- as renters -of landlords are that they are a bunch of crooked b******s.
One of our tenants intercepted my mail, stole a credit card and PIN that had been sent erroneously to that address and obtained £5000 from cash machines with it.
But we have been ripped off in Prague and here by unscrupulous landlords.
Our current landlord, an Austrian massage parlour and brothel owner, is great. The kind of landlord we were. So we in turn are excellent tenants......

I should point out we were NOT brothel or massage parlour owners. Sadly, as we could have been rich had we been..
Never too late to start a new venture ...

There are good people and bad people, in property renting just like everything else. But generaly, and I realise there are exceptions, the landlord is the one with the power and can do far more harm to the tenants than vice versa. It´s not an equal balance.

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