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Old 22nd November 2010, 11:19 AM
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Well folks, we finally made it a few weeks ago, and safely got to spain. Found a flat to rent about 10 minutes from benidorm and its lovely so thank for all the help and advice on here. Also got a job sorted out too which was a stroke of luck but like some of you have said its always best to talk in bars.

I was shocked at the weekend though, i went to benidorm for a night out and was horrified to see a fight with about 6 or 7 lads in the street. I never seen trouble before and the opinion of people on here always tend to be spain is safer than the uk but is it? I mean these lads were beating seven bells out of a spanish lad and what shocked me more was that the spanish lad retaliated and gave one of them a pasting too (something to do with his girlfriend but i couldnt make it out). luckily after a minute or two the police arrived and split them up - but the questions remains, if spain any safer than the uk or do people here wear rose tinted specs and believe it is safer because they want to?

i even saw two spanish old women walking their dogs yesterday and they were having a right verbal set to in the street about something!

Is voilence normal in spain to this level? also what do people know about petty crime, car break ins, flat break ins etc... in peoples experiences is it really any better than in the uk or not?

What i saw at the weekend shocked me, it really would be interesting to get the opinion of you guys with your experince - is spain safer than the Uk? when you go out for a drink are you just as likely to run into trouble as in the Uk?

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It probably depends where you go.
I've seen videos of Bristol at the weekend (which is near where my family live) that are a disgrace. And Weston Super grot spot Mare has it's fair share of sleaze and violence, but I'm sure you can live in either place and see nothing.
Same here. I live about 30 KM out of Madrid. Sometimes things happen. A boy was stabbed here a few years ago. There has been the occasional incident at night, but I think that's "normal" for a big town. My 16 year old daughter walks around with no problems.
I don't know much about Benidorm, I've been through it a couple of times, but I think that there are certain areas that attract that kind of behaviour and also that at least 50% of the time it's Brits who are the instigators!! I also know for a fact there are beautiful places in and around Benidorm (the castle at Guadalest for example, beautiful views)
So perhaps it was just that you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and you need to get used to your new location.
As for the two women...
I used to get really uncomfortable walking around. Everyone seemed to be arguing, shouting and waving their hands around. BUT they are usually just having a good old chinwag. Even if they are arguing it normally doesn't go any further. The Spanish are DEFINITELY louder than us.
Hope you get used to your new life soon.

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I live in a society where crime is less than the U.K. far far less!

Look at the parked cars, you will the keys left in the ignition and often the engines running. I have been here on and off for fifteen years, I have never witnessed a fight.

I have never seen a house with a burglar alarm fitted, however some of the businesses do have them.

At weekends we do occasionally get minor vandalism and sometimes graffiti, but this is rare.

Now the reason for no crime maybe that there are only three possible four English residents on the island, the vast majority here are natives. I asked a man once, "Are there any criminals here?" he replied, with a huge grin on his face " No, of course not, any that we do catch, we send them to Tenerife,"

However I am only commenting about the island where I live.

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Sadly, what I have found is that in places where there is a high density of Brits, there seem to be more fights. It seems we come over here to escape the street violence but end up bringing it with us!

To stereotype the Spanish, they are very loud, verbal and passionate. They do shout and argue, but it seems to stop there. They also laugh, sing and talk loudly, even their dogs bark loudly lol. Spain is a loud country!

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The way you refer to a number of men and a "spanish lad" sounds almost to me like it was brits (or other "foreigners") having the fight with one spanish chap! In benidorm this would not surprise me. I have to say I rarely see fights in benidorm (or anywhere else) but when I do they are normally instigated by brits (which is sad and embarresing).

Crime here is without a doubt far far lower than in the UK. When I lived in Manchester (in a nice area) I had my car broken into 3 times. Here, as Hepa said, people often leave keys in cars and nothing happens. Crime is increasing here thanks to imigrants but the Spanish are generally not a fighting race like the brits.

Earlier in the year I went to the UK and visited a few bars in the evening. The nightclubs (and even many bars) all had seciruty "heavies" on the doors, armed police in the streets etc. On Saturday I went with my OH and some Spanish friends to a discoteca/salsa type club. There were people there of all ages, from 18 ish to pensioners, all having a great time, enjoying the amosphere. No fights, no trouble, and nobody in the toilets snorting class a drugs!

I have said it before countless times and will always say it, I always feel safe in Spain. In benidorm and oher toursty places you have to be vigilent but it isn't the spanish you need to be careful of!

As for the two ladies aruging in the street - they were probably just having a friendly converstion about where is best to buy bread - they really do look like they are arguing when often they are just talking - its their way!

Anyway I am woffling - but to summarise, I leave my front door unlocked all day (like my granny used to do in the day jaja), i only lock it to go to bed. Yes crime happens - EVERYWHERE - you will never avoid crime but compared to the UK(certainly some of the areas I have lived and worked in) I think you are very safe in Spain. Benidorm, just like many other touristy places will have crime but its still so low and the police are always there very fast if anything happens. It would be interesting to know what nationality the guys in the fight were?

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Well folks, we finally made it a few weeks ago, and safely got to spain. Found a flat to rent about 10 minutes from benidorm and its lovely so thank for all the help and advice on here. Also got a job sorted out too which was a stroke of luck but like some of you have said its always best to talk in bars.

I was shocked at the weekend though, i went to benidorm for a night out and was horrified to see a fight with about 6 or 7 lads in the street. I never seen trouble before and the opinion of people on here always tend to be spain is safer than the uk but is it? I mean these lads were beating seven bells out of a spanish lad and what shocked me more was that the spanish lad retaliated and gave one of them a pasting too (something to do with his girlfriend but i couldnt make it out). luckily after a minute or two the police arrived and split them up - but the questions remains, if spain any safer than the uk or do people here wear rose tinted specs and believe it is safer because they want to?

i even saw two spanish old women walking their dogs yesterday and they were having a right verbal set to in the street about something!

Is voilence normal in spain to this level? also what do people know about petty crime, car break ins, flat break ins etc... in peoples experiences is it really any better than in the uk or not?

What i saw at the weekend shocked me, it really would be interesting to get the opinion of you guys with your experince - is spain safer than the Uk? when you go out for a drink are you just as likely to run into trouble as in the Uk?
It really does depend where you are. Benidorm and places like it, where young Brits go to drink themselves stupid (which for some reason they define as having a good time) are definitely not typical of Spain. Most Spanish people stay well away from such places.

Spanish people do raise their voices at each other a lot, but it rarely ends up in violence. There is domestic violence against women, but that usually takes place behind closed doors. Theft with violence is rare except where drug addicts are involved, sadly an increasingly common phenomenon.

Petty pilfering happens everywhere, but more so in big cities, as you'd expect. I live in a village where everyone knows everybody else and there is virtually no serious crime, but I wouldn't go out and leave my door unlocked. My friend had his garden gnomes nicked (no s******ing please!), and on a couple of occasions fires have been started in rubbish bins.

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Ooh er, the famous forum filter has blotted out the word S N I G G E R I N G! I wonder if it will let me say tittering?

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i dont wish to sound out of order. but i'm shocked that you were shocked to see a druken fight in benidorm. as wtih all places in the world i'm sure there will be good and bad parts there.
i'm from watford so seeing the drunken fights at the end of the night was a certainty.
and the general rule is if you want to stay away from hassle then drink in pricier places. as certain people who are trying to drink as much as they can as cheaply as possible, will be less likely to be in there so there should be less trouble.

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I'm afraid it's a sad fact that Benidorm is basically split into two parts. I go there from time to time and stay with friends who rent a front line apartment on the South Beach area, somewhere near The Coach and Horses (its owned and run by a Spaniard!). In fact I was there for the night last week on the last day of the fiesta watching the firework display.

Basically when we go there I only stay on the South side, and in the old town. We dont go to where the British Pubs are because the last time I did, we saw two women fighting in the middle of the street. Why would anyone want to go and spend their time playing bingo at the Red Lion.

Anyway, the "better" part of Benidorm is Poniente. In the summer it's where the Spanish seem to hang out. If you want to see people throwing up in the street go to the Levante

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