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Anyone willing to hazard an estimate on how big the year-round population of a coastal town would need to be to warrant the kind of amenities/conveniences I think I'd find critical to day to day living? All would need to be centrally located...within walking distance for someone living in the center of town or nearby.

I'm thinking: A good sized market at least once, preferably twice a week.
At least one large well-stocked grocery store/supermarket open 6 days a week.
Several good cafes and restaurants.
A good bakery
A good butcher shop.
A good fishmongers.
A green grocer.
A pharmacy.
And wine!

It would be great if I'd be likely to find doctor and dentist locally as well, but as long as I could get via public transport to a larger community with one, that would be OK.

If I wanted several choices of bakers, butchers, etc...how large a town would be needed to support them?

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Anyone willing to hazard an estimate on how big the year-round population of a coastal town would need to be to warrant the kind of amenities/conveniences I think I'd find critical to day to day living? All would need to be centrally located...within walking distance for someone living in the center of town or nearby.

I'm thinking: A good sized market at least once, preferably twice a week.
At least one large well-stocked grocery store/supermarket open 6 days a week.
Several good cafes and restaurants.
A good bakery
A good butcher shop.
A good fishmongers.
A green grocer.
A pharmacy.
And wine!

It would be great if I'd be likely to find doctor and dentist locally as well, but as long as I could get via public transport to a larger community with one, that would be OK.

If I wanted several choices of bakers, butchers, etc...how large a town would be needed to support them?

Thanks!
we have all of that - although 2 public libraries, 2 centros de salud (state - several private) quite a few dentists & 14 farmacias

Jávea has a population of just under 33,000

however - it is also a town of three distinct areas, & each of those distinct areas also has pretty much all you want

divide the total population by 3 (totally unscientific I know) - & you get 11,000 - so maybe that's a good starting point?

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Apart from the fishmonger and green grocer, which are in the supermarkets, we have all that, plus a hospital . Our population is believed to be less than 4000. Valverde, El Hierro

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Wow....in the U.S. I don't think one would find as much available unless towns were considerably larger than 10,000-11,000. And certainly not 4,000.

Sounds as if, I'd be very likely to find what I want in anyplace with a pop of about 25,000 or so.

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Wow....in the U.S. I don't think one would find as much available unless towns were considerably larger than 10,000-11,000. And certainly not 4,000.

Sounds as if, I'd be very likely to find what I want in anyplace with a pop of about 25,000 or so.
There are only 9000 on the island, perhaps you should visit, I don't think we have any North Americans

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There are only 9000 on the island, perhaps you should visit, I don't think we have any North Americans

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I think the fact that your town of only 4000 people has all those facilities might be somewhat influenced by the fact that it is the main town on a tiny island of only 9000 inhabitants, and as such might not be a good indicator for Spain in general.
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Our town has all those things, plus a library, health centre, two dentists, two vets, copious sports facilities and a cheese factory. Population 5,500.

We're 45 km from the coast - and from the nearest sizeable city, so we have to be self-sufficient.
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The population of our village is under 3000 but we have

A good sized market at least once, preferably twice a week.- Market is once a week and its small but a real good mix of products.
At least one large well-stocked grocery store/supermarket open 6 days a week. Large supermarket and smaller supermarket.
Several good cafes and restaurants. a mix of 14 bars and resturants in the village
A good bakery-yes 2
A good butcher shop.-yes 2
A good fishmongers. in the supermarket
A green grocer. yes and market and supermarket
A pharmacy. we have 3
And wine! lots of , supermarket and a number of local wine producers

We also have many other shops,a medical centre, school. a gym. outdoor swimming pool , a bank ,post office, we can get all we need in the village really but may want to travel for a bigger choice.
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I think the fact that your town of only 4000 people has all those facilities might be somewhat influenced by the fact that it is the main town on a tiny island of only 9000 inhabitants, and as such might not be a good indicator for Spain in general.
You are absolutely spot on, I often wonder if we are in fact part of Spain We also have flush toilets and electricity
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Don't know that answer to your particular question, but I live in a town on Costa Del Sol which is more or less split into three 'towns' with say 40,000 population in one part and 20,000 in each of the others. I live in one of the smaller parts.

I am 5 minutes walk to the beach, and have all the amenities you list (including doctor and dentist) within a 2 minute walk. The public library is a 4 minute walk and the local train station is 6 min walk.

I have lived in 5 places in the area in the 26 years I have lived (early retired) in Spain. They varied from small in land town to a villa on the edge of open countryside 6 miles from the main town. I am in my present home for 13 years and find it perfect. I will almost certainly not move again.

Not sure why you asked but I hope this gives you something worthwhile to think about.

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