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RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS - SPAIN

(PLEASE NOTE RESIDENCY MEANS SIGNING ON A REGISTER. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR BRITISH PASSPORT OR SIMILAR)
Residency requirements

From 28 March 2007, Royal Decree 240/07 requires that all EU citizens planning to reside in Spain for more than 3 months should register in person at the Oficina de Extranjeros in their province of residence or at designated Police stations. You will be issued an A4 printed Residence Certificate stating your name, address, nationality, NIE number (Número de Identificación Extranjeros) and date of registration.

On 10 July 2012 the Spanish government introduced details of the new residency requirements for all EU citizens, including British nationals.
Under the new rules, EU citizens applying for residency in Spain may be required to produce evidence of sufficient financial means to support themselves (and dependants). Applicants may also be asked for proof of private or public healthcare insurance.


Nationals of:
  • a member state of the European Union
  • other States party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area
  • Switzerland
have a right to reside in Spain for a period of longer than three months if they meet the conditions laid down in Article 7 of Royal Decree 240/2007, of 16 February 2007, on entrance, free movement and residence in Spain of Nationals of European Union member states and of other states party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area.

FROM THE FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH OFFICE
https://www.gov.uk/residency-requirements-in-spain

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Some info which is needed by all EU citizens

RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS - SPAIN

(PLEASE NOTE RESIDENCY MEANS SIGNING ON A REGISTER. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR BRITISH PASSPORT OR SIMILAR)
Residency requirements

From 28 March 2007, Royal Decree 240/07 requires that all EU citizens planning to reside in Spain for more than 3 months should register in person at the Oficina de Extranjeros in their province of residence or at designated Police stations. You will be issued an A4 printed Residence Certificate stating your name, address, nationality, NIE number (Número de Identificación Extranjeros) and date of registration.

On 10 July 2012 the Spanish government introduced details of the new residency requirements for all EU citizens, including British nationals.
Under the new rules, EU citizens applying for residency in Spain may be required to produce evidence of sufficient financial means to support themselves (and dependants). Applicants may also be asked for proof of private or public healthcare insurance.


Nationals of:
  • a member state of the European Union
  • other States party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area
  • Switzerland
have a right to reside in Spain for a period of longer than three months if they meet the conditions laid down in Article 7 of Royal Decree 240/2007, of 16 February 2007, on entrance, free movement and residence in Spain of Nationals of European Union member states and of other states party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area.

FROM THE FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH OFFICE
https://www.gov.uk/residency-requirements-in-spain
thanks PW - I'm going to copy/paste that into the first post of the FAQs thread........

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also... from EU – Residence rights when working in another EU country - Your Europe********
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During the first 3 months of your stay in your new country, you cannot be required to register (to obtain a document confirming your right to stay) but can do so if you wish.
After 3 months in your new country, you may be required to register with the relevant authority (often the town hall or local police station).
To obtain your
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certificate, you will need:
  • Employees / Postings abroad
    • Valid identity card or passport
    • Certificate of employment or confirmation of recruitment from your employer
  • Self-employed
    • Valid identity card or passport
    • Proof of your status as self-employed
  • Pensioners
    • Valid identity card or passport
    • Proof of comprehensive health insurance
    • Proof you can support yourself without needing income support.

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... and what if you are not; a pensioner, an employee or self-employed?


I don't think it should simply say pensioner - it should be 'anyone else'.
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... and what if you are not; a pensioner, an employee or self-employed?


I don't think it should simply say pensioner - it should be 'anyone else'.

me too.... but bottom line is, you have to prove one way or another that you can support yourself & have some sort of healthcare provision

& Spain REQUIRES that you register.....
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In the interests of balance, the following extracts should also be quoted, I feel.

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If you have to register, you may be fined for not doing so but may continue to live in the country and cannot be expelled just for this.

In many countries, you will need to carry your registration certificate and national identity card or passport at all times. If you leave them at home, you may be fined but cannot be expelled just for this.

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You may live in the other EU country as long as you continue to meet the conditions for residence. If you no longer do so, the national authorities may require you to leave.

In exceptional cases, your new country can decide to expel you on grounds of public policy or public security but only if it can prove you represent a very serious threat.

The expulsion decision or the request to leave must be given to you in writing. It must state all the grounds, and specify how you can appeal and by when.

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If anyone wants it straight from the horses mouth...
Estancia y residencia - Ministerio del Interior
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In the interests of balance, the following extracts should also be quoted, I feel.
absolutely....

but as has been pointed out many times before - it is getting increasingly difficult to get anything done without the resident registration cert......

yes, those who have lived 'below the radar' for a long time might well be unaffected & be able to continue to do so - but for new people coming over, it's much more difficult
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but as has been pointed out many times before - it is getting increasingly difficult to get anything done without the resident registration cert......
Let me just say at this point that I don't have a dog in this fight, but this whole issue seems to centre on a circular argument.

The Spanish government is playing to the gallery by "being seen to be doing something" about uncontrolled immigration. The reality is that Spain, in common with all other EU countries has very little to offer in the way of effective sanctions against EU citizens who fail (or refuse) to engage in their registration protocols.

The requirements for "legal" residency in Spain are minimal and IMO perfectly reasonable - a very modest income and very basic healthcare insurance.

The "difficulty in getting things done" would seem to centre on such matters as the buying and selling of properties, transacting business, and registering vehicles (or so it would appear from reading this forum and others). Since these activities are more or less predicated on the ready availability of cash, I don't see any meaningful impediment to achieving residency for any EU citizen in this position.

If a person feels the need to stay "under the radar" due to lack of funds, the practical limitations brought about by the lack of "residencia" are fairly meaningless, are they not?
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The "difficulty in getting things done" would seem to centre on such matters as the buying and selling of properties, transacting business, and registering vehicles (or so it would appear from reading this forum and others). Since these activities are more or less predicated on the ready availability of cash, I don't see any meaningful impediment to achieving residency for any EU citizen in this position.
It all depends on what you want to do in Spain. If you have children that need schooling, if you want to do any activity at the town hall, if you want to pay any bills from the town hall, if you want a car, if you want to work... all require an NIE number somewhere along the line. In many cases, but not all, you'll need an NIE number to just rent your accommodation.
If you just want to be, and not do anything, you might just get away with using your passport.

But, people do need to be clear that officially it's illegal and you'd be doing just that - getting away with it.
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